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The debate at safety; Rominger or Tully?

BWahlberg

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Keeping the football discussion going:

Coming out of spring ball a very interesting position race has emerged, Steven Rominger vs Bo Tully. Opposite of them Hermey has his position locked down and possibly an all-conference nod before the season even starts. We've got a JuCo safety as well (Coogan) and Lebsock who is splitting time between safety and backer as he transitions to becoming a full-time linebacker.

Rominger came out of spring camp on fire having one of the better camps of all the defensive players and he was specifially called out by coach Delaney for his play. Rominger brings balance to the position, he's not the fastest of the group but he's a good tackler and has shown increased awareness in zone coverage. For lack of a better comparison Rominger is a bit like Mike McCord, his better ability is run support. This spring he had multiple interceptions and great plays showing his continued improvement in pass coverage. Last year he was almost entirely a special teams player, not even seeing much at safety in blow-outs. Rominger brings very little in-game experience at the position which of course is a bit of a gamble. His lack of overall speed is also a concern as safeties need to have good range, there could be concern of him being able to provide zone-coverage help in cover-2 / cover-3 situation and getting to the sideline in a hurry if the corner is beat over the top.

Tully brings an almost full season of starting experience plus a prior season of some split time at safety. Bo is a very fast and agile player, one thing I keep hearing and noticing about him is his overall speed and quickness to close on the ball or ball carrier. Tully held his own fairly well in most zone coverage although of the main contributing safeties he had the fewest amount of tackles and interceptions (52 tackles, 1 pick). Tully's issue has been widely talked about on here, tackling and 1-on-1 matchups. In some games he was quickly targeted and picked on - he wound up splitting more and more time with Hermanson as the season went on. Before spring camp kicked off Tully had a nice endorsement from Pflu that he is continually improving and "will be" the starter opposite of Hermey. Come spring camp Tully showed some good improvement in his coverage but was still having lots of issues with tackling. Arm tackles, getting caught on his heels, over-pursuit.

The possibly interesting wrinkle here is the coaching dynamic. Rominger was a Hauck recruit, Tully a Pflu recruit. While I don't think Pflu/Breske would start "their guy" over the more talented guy I've been told that on the defense they key attribute was speed (and hitting with the face). Tully has better overall speed than Rominger and carries forth much more experience. However with both Pflu and Breske now departed these two are dealing with new DC Ty Gregorak and position coach Leon Burtnett - so any hint of favortism, and possibly over-emphasis on pure speed, might be out the window. While I don't know much about coach Burtnett and how he works with the kids he coaches I do know how coach Ty reacts to missed tackles/poor tackling - he doesn't accept it... at all.

Heading into fall camp this position battle could rage on. The way I see it, Bo Tully will enter fall camp still pegged as the starter. I don't think one strong spring camp will catapult Rominger over him in the coaches eyes. However Tully needs to clean up his continued issues he showed last season, and quickly. Rominger on the other hand needs to prove that this spring wasn't just a spot of luck but that his adaptation to being a safety in this system is continually improving. If he can do that then come the end of fall camp these two could be splitting time at the start of the season opener or into September.

I'm not sure how I see this shaking out, too many unknowns as of yet. Each player has a strength and a weakness. This position could be one of the most important that needs to be anchored this fall camp as our corners are all younger and lack overall experience, having a more veteran and versatile group of safeties will dramatically help our passing game.
 
I would choose Rominger over Tully. It seems that Rominger is more solid when it comes to 1 on 1 tackling and he chooses better angles to make a plays. Tully pisses down his legs way too much and seems out of place at times.. :twocents:
 
number one resposibility of any safety is to be a tackling machine....does no good to arrive first and miss the tackle.....
 
krammer said:
number one resposibility of any safety is to be a tackling machine....does no good to arrive first and miss the tackle.....
I agree with krammer on this one. While speed is nice at the safety position, I feel the better attribute is being in the right place at the right time and making a sound tackle.
 
I'm hoping Coogan is a stud...

Looking forward to seeing Gratton play at Safety as well, he was one hell of a hard-hitter in HS.
 
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Feature Story

FOOTBALL FEATURE, Jacob Coogan

By Alexis Dominguez

Jacob Coogan will be one of at least 20 from his football team this season to earn full scholarships to Universities.

Since the age of eight Coogan familiarized himself with the shoulder pads and gridiron helmets that would earn him an opportunity to play at San Diego State University.

So he thought.

“I didn’t want to play for anyone else,” he said. “So when [SDSU] cut me from the team, I had really no interest in playing football again.”

Earning a spot in a Division I football team is tough. Being cut from the team is even tougher. The experience helped Coogan realize the work ethic it takes to play at the D-I level.

As a SWC Jaguar, Coogan was determined to showcase his talent. At a home game in SWC, his head coach pumped up the sideline by chanting defense! Defense! Moments later, Coogan would leap for the ball and come up with an interception against S.D. Mesa.

In the Fall of 2011, the opportunity came when SDSU invited Coogan as a walk-on once again, Coogan did not want to risk not making the cut and wasting another year of ineligibility, he said.

Opportunity arose elsewhere.

“When Montana came and offered me, I visited the school and liked it a lot,” he said.

It must be nice being pursued by Universities.

“Its really cool,” he said. “It makes me feel that all the hard work I’ve done since I was eight has finally paid off.”

Coogan said that to be able to play football, you need determination, patience and a great work ethic. After being cut from SDSU, he was determined to improve, he was patient for the next big opportunity to come and continued improving his work ethic.

“You need patience to play football because you’re not always gonna get what you want at the start,” he said. “If you’re at the bottom of the depth chart, you need to prove yourself to the coaches that you are the right guy for the job, but see that takes time and patience.”

Coogan said his work ethic as a player is to get things done.

“Conditioning, weight lifting, practicing, watching film, studying playbooks, etc. all suck,” he said. “I don’t like doing those things but in order to be successful in football, and make a positive impact for your team you need to do it. So I put my feelings aside and just get those things done.”

He is not the first in his family to attend college. His father, Dalton attended SDSU and his sister, Bridget, currently attends Cal State San Marcos for a Liberal Studies major.

Coogan hopes to major in journalism.

“I’ve always enjoyed sports and I want to pursue a career to where I can incorporate that, said Coogan. “Being an ESPN sideline reporter for either pro or college football is my goal.”

Reporting will have to wait. He is off to Montana for his talent and hardwork to be televised on ESPN.
 
krammer said:
number one resposibility of any safety is to be a tackling machine....does no good to arrive first and miss the tackle.....

Jacob Coogan:..began his career at San Diego State then transferred and made 40 tackles and an interception while earning "Hardest Hitter" award at Southwestern College in Chula Vista, Calif.

-sounds like a good start.
 
WyomingGrizFan said:
krammer said:
number one resposibility of any safety is to be a tackling machine....does no good to arrive first and miss the tackle.....

Jacob Coogan:..began his career at San Diego State then transferred and made 40 tackles and an interception while earning "Hardest Hitter" award at Southwestern College in Chula Vista, Calif.

-sounds like a good start.
:lol: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
 
Correction: Steven Rominger is fast - he's one of the fastest guys on the team. Got that from a pretty good source.
 
BWahlberg said:
Correction: Steven Rominger is fast - he's one of the fastest guys on the team. Got that from a pretty good source.

While I obviously don't have track times for Rominger, I can say that seeing him play football in person in High School (when Butte High traveled to Sentinal his senior year) that Rominger is definitly fleet footed. He played QB as did my nephew for Butte, so i naturally compared the positions. Rominger can pick'em up and put'em down... I've seen Rominger at UM as well, and his speed holds up (and then some) at that level as well... Good player. If he gets his hands on the ball via INT, it's a good chance he's returning it for a TD.
 
AZGrizFan said:
WyomingGrizFan said:
krammer said:
number one resposibility of any safety is to be a tackling machine....does no good to arrive first and miss the tackle.....

Jacob Coogan:..began his career at San Diego State then transferred and made 40 tackles and an interception while earning "Hardest Hitter" award at Southwestern College in Chula Vista, Calif.

-sounds like a good start.
:lol: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Earning the "Hardest Hitter" award on a team that quote un-qoute is sending atleast 20 players to Universities to play football is quite an accomplishment. :clap: Bring the wood!!!
 
IntuitiveGriz said:
AZGrizFan said:
WyomingGrizFan said:
krammer said:
number one resposibility of any safety is to be a tackling machine....does no good to arrive first and miss the tackle.....

Jacob Coogan:..began his career at San Diego State then transferred and made 40 tackles and an interception while earning "Hardest Hitter" award at Southwestern College in Chula Vista, Calif.

-sounds like a good start.
:lol: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Earning the "Hardest Hitter" award on a team that quote un-qoute is sending atleast 20 players to Universities to play football is quite an accomplishment. :clap: Bring the wood!!!

Agreed. We need another Keith Thompson. :clap:
 
krammer said:
number one resposibility of any safety is to be a tackling machine....does no good to arrive first and miss the tackle.....

:thumb:

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Proud Griz Man said:
krammer said:
number one resposibility of any safety is to be a tackling machine....does no good to arrive first and miss the tackle.....

:thumb:

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Damn, that's quite a heritage. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
AZGrizFan said:
Proud Griz Man said:
krammer said:
number one resposibility of any safety is to be a tackling machine....does no good to arrive first and miss the tackle.....

:thumb:

Damn, that's quite a heritage. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

UM has had a rich history of good defensive back play /safeties.

Some other names (in no particular order):
Vince Huntsberger
Todd Ericson
Trey Young
Blaine McElmurry
Torrey Thomas
Tony Fudge
Greg Anderson
Terry Dillon
:clap:
 

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