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The dangers of football returning from the virus: Wall St. Journal

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"The Dangers of Football Returning From Coronavirus

The country’s most popular sport is incompatible with social distancing, and African-American players face higher risks"

[Hum, my question is: are high-mass professional and college really at risk, or at risk that much?]

"The dangers come because of the nature of the sport itself and the players it features. Football is incompatible with social distancing. It also relies on a large share of people, despite their relatively young ages, who could face a disproportionate risk of severe complications from the coronavirus. According to the NFL Players Association’s ongoing research, more than 70% of NFL players fall into a serious, at-risk category, such as being African-American or having a high body-mass index.

At the college level, even though many football teams at the nation’s top conferences don’t kick off voluntary workouts until this week, earlier starts have resulted in about 30 athletes at a dozen schools—including at Alabama, Iowa State and Mississippi—testing positive for Covid-19. That led to quarantines and signaled how thorny it could be for teams so large to keep operating. It also could undercount the numbers, since some athletic departments aren’t disclosing test results due to privacy concerns.

But while NFL teams and the biggest college programs can afford rigorous testing and dramatic infrastructure projects, the same may not be true for the vast majority of people who play football—at the high-school level or younger.

And at every level, from the youth through the pros, little can be done to change the risks that are inherent to the sport and the people who play it.

Now, those plans are coming into focus. The NFL and NFL Players Association, last week, released its first set of guidelines for players coming back to team facilities. The steps include overhauled workouts and meetings, daily screenings and prepackaged meals in lieu of buffets, according to memos reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

And those same protocols are already receiving pushback: Ravens coach John Harbaugh said last week in a radio interview that they’re “humanly impossible.

Dr. Thom Mayer, the chief doctor for the NFL Players Association, rattled off a number of potential factors: the high incidence of complications among African-Americans, people with high body-mass indices and others with sleep apnea. “You just described a huge chunk of the NFL players,” he added.

In an April study of 5,700 hospitalized Covid-19 patients in the New York City area, the top comorbidities were obesity, high blood pressure and diabetes. Of those who were hospitalized, 41.7 percent were obese, defined as people with a body-mass index over 30. Many NFL players would fall into that category—offensive linemen, for example, routinely weigh upwards of 300 pounds.

More broadly, African-Americans make up 46% of the players in college football’s five top conferences and more than half of the players in the NFL. Data from cities across the country has shown that black people in the U.S. have been hit especially hard by the virus, dying at a rate that’s nearly twice their share of the population. Possible explanations have included pre-existing conditions and socioeconomic factors stemming from systemic inequality.

The risk of young people dying of Covid-19 is low, said Dr. Mick Koester, chairman of the sports medicine advisory committee for the National Federation of State High School Associations. But, Dr. Koester said, “I’m more concerned about them getting it and then spreading it to Grandma and Grandpa. We also certainly have concern for coaches and officials as well.”

Dr. Koester added that, just like in college, high-school football is a high revenue sport that drives the financials for state associations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/world/coronavirus-live-updates.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
 
PlayerRep said:
"The Dangers of Football Returning From Coronavirus

The country’s most popular sport is incompatible with social distancing, and African-American players face higher risks"

[Hum, my question is: are high-mass professional and college really at risk, or at risk that much?]

"The dangers come because of the nature of the sport itself and the players it features. Football is incompatible with social distancing. It also relies on a large share of people, despite their relatively young ages, who could face a disproportionate risk of severe complications from the coronavirus. According to the NFL Players Association’s ongoing research, more than 70% of NFL players fall into a serious, at-risk category, such as being African-American or having a high body-mass index.

At the college level, even though many football teams at the nation’s top conferences don’t kick off voluntary workouts until this week, earlier starts have resulted in about 30 athletes at a dozen schools—including at Alabama, Iowa State and Mississippi—testing positive for Covid-19. That led to quarantines and signaled how thorny it could be for teams so large to keep operating. It also could undercount the numbers, since some athletic departments aren’t disclosing test results due to privacy concerns.

But while NFL teams and the biggest college programs can afford rigorous testing and dramatic infrastructure projects, the same may not be true for the vast majority of people who play football—at the high-school level or younger.

And at every level, from the youth through the pros, little can be done to change the risks that are inherent to the sport and the people who play it.

Now, those plans are coming into focus. The NFL and NFL Players Association, last week, released its first set of guidelines for players coming back to team facilities. The steps include overhauled workouts and meetings, daily screenings and prepackaged meals in lieu of buffets, according to memos reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

And those same protocols are already receiving pushback: Ravens coach John Harbaugh said last week in a radio interview that they’re “humanly impossible.

Dr. Thom Mayer, the chief doctor for the NFL Players Association, rattled off a number of potential factors: the high incidence of complications among African-Americans, people with high body-mass indices and others with sleep apnea. “You just described a huge chunk of the NFL players,” he added.

In an April study of 5,700 hospitalized Covid-19 patients in the New York City area, the top comorbidities were obesity, high blood pressure and diabetes. Of those who were hospitalized, 41.7 percent were obese, defined as people with a body-mass index over 30. Many NFL players would fall into that category—offensive linemen, for example, routinely weigh upwards of 300 pounds.

More broadly, African-Americans make up 46% of the players in college football’s five top conferences and more than half of the players in the NFL. Data from cities across the country has shown that black people in the U.S. have been hit especially hard by the virus, dying at a rate that’s nearly twice their share of the population. Possible explanations have included pre-existing conditions and socioeconomic factors stemming from systemic inequality.

The risk of young people dying of Covid-19 is low, said Dr. Mick Koester, chairman of the sports medicine advisory committee for the National Federation of State High School Associations. But, Dr. Koester said, “I’m more concerned about them getting it and then spreading it to Grandma and Grandpa. We also certainly have concern for coaches and officials as well.”

Dr. Koester added that, just like in college, high-school football is a high revenue sport that drives the financials for state associations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/world/coronavirus-live-updates.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Lot's of good information there. However, let's immediately dump the reference to the Body Mass Index for athletes as a plus or minus factor. Numerous studies have shown that the BMI is not a valid measure of fitness or health for most athletes. Here's just one (of a huge number) article: https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-test-of-health-many-pro-athletes-would-flunk

When I heard, some time back, that Tiger Woods -- at the time, probably the most fit golfer in the world -- had a BMI that classified him as marginally obese ... they lost me. Of course, for the rest of us, it's something we need to keep in mind.

Two parts of all this that scare me more are:
(1) The fact that people of African-American heritage may be more genetically susceptible to the COVID-19 virus, exclusive of (possibly) different lifestyles or whatever. I don't think anyone has proven this. However, it is a known fact that black are generally more likely to get Sickle-cell Anemia ... so a genetic link is not out of the question.
(2) The fact that asymptomatic, fit athletes -- who may be at low risk of serious consequences -- could pass it along to family members. That's especially true, of course, for older family members. Kinda takes some of the fun away.
 
This is the most comprehensive data I can find about colleges:

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/dozens-college-athletes-test-positive-for-coronavirus-since-return-campus/fVg3ZyeDzUFt7CBgqdmyxN/
 
...and if any athletes get's Covid they will recover...well, must will recover 98.8 percent .....maybe not nursing homes!
 
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/us/football-happen-fauci-spt-trnd/index.html

Fauci says football may not happen.
 
PlayerRep said:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/us/football-happen-fauci-spt-trnd/index.html

Fauci says football may not happen.

Thank god!

This means we'll DEFINITELY have football this season! :clap:
 
PlayerRep said:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/us/football-happen-fauci-spt-trnd/index.html

Fauci says football may not happen.

...I just posted that on the other discussions and miss your post..the only thing allowed
this fall will be protesting!...that doesn't spread the virus apparently!
 
"Fans Wants Sports. Sports Want Fans. But It’s Not That Simple.

Americans are eager to have their favorite sports back. But three months after most leagues shut down, there are only loose plans, good intentions and a nervous hope that it doesn’t go wrong."

"For weeks, Major League Baseball could not figure out how to play even a part of a season, creating the possibility that 2020 would be the first year without baseball in 150 years.

The N.B.A. wants to quarantine teams in Florida to finish a season in August and perform a two-month postseason beyond that, though some players are balking at such confinement, partly over racial unrest. The N.H.L. has similar ideas for finishing a season that would have ended by now, in a normal year, but nothing is truly scheduled.

In tennis, Wimbledon in late June and early July was wiped out. The United States Open in New York has vowed to start on time in late August, but some players do not want to go, raising questions about whether a fanless, star-depleted event is worth the effort.

N.F.L. teams are not sure about the start of training camps in July, and the N.C.A.A. has no cohesive plan and no real idea for what the coming seasons in college football or other sports might look like. The collective strategy is largely to cross fingers.

“One of my takeaways from all this is that we don’t have uniform risk tolerance in this country,” the University of Washington epidemiologist Steve Mooney said. “I have some fear that people who have a higher tolerance of risk than I do are making these decisions.”

There are glints of optimism. Professional golf and NASCAR have returned, though more as made-for-TV events than as anything resembling a collective experience.

And as they see clips of normal-seeming games from around the world — soccer in Europe, baseball in Asia, rugby in New Zealand — nothing feels normal at home. When England’s Premier League became the latest to return to the field on Wednesday, with matches at home stadiums but without fans, even that modest reboot looked like a mirage from the American viewpoint.

Rutherford, at U.C.-San Francisco, expects there will be major college football in the fall, partly because there is so much money at stake, and also some fans — spread out, masked, maybe even tested.

“Ten, 12, 15,000 fans, mostly season-ticket holders? Yeah, that strikes me as doable,” he said. “Trying to fill up the Rose Bowl? That’s another issue.”

Mooney is more pessimistic. Even classes on most campuses are not certain.

“I think it’s unlikely that there will be football games at U.W. in the fall,” he said of Washington, a member of the Pac-12 Conference. “I’d be pretty outraged if I need to teach my class remotely, but the football stadium is filled with people who intermingle.”

The same day, Major League Baseball’s commissioner, Rob Manfred, said he was “not confident” that there would be a 2020 season, a week after saying “unequivocally” that he was “100 percent” sure there would be."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/sports/baseball/coronavirus-fans-return.html?action=click&module=Editors%20Picks&pgtype=Homepage
 
Watch for forfeits. If a team has a breakout during the season they might all get put in isolation for two weeks. Maybe lose one game after two rounds of covid testing. going to be weird.
 
p8nted said:
Watch for forfeits. If a team has a breakout during the season they might all get put in isolation for two weeks. Maybe lose one game after two rounds of covid testing. going to be weird.

I was thinking the same thing. Star players are going to get the virus, others won't, and depth on teams will matter too. It's going to be a crazy season.
 
"UCLA players demanding protection — what we know

A run down of all the collective stories surrounding the football team’s demands for protection amond return from pandemic"

"Over the weekend, a group numbering at least 30 UCLA Bruins football players stood behind a document that they believed would protect them in their return to campus during the COVID-19 pandemic. Covered across the nation’s media platforms, here’s what we know so far as the players movement has gripped the nation.

What: UCLA football players demand protection from ‘injustices’ amid pandemic return
The Los Angeles Times reviewed a document that states the UCLA players do not trust officials to ‘act in their best interest, particularly in regard to their health’ stating that the school has ‘perpetually failed us’ and included mismanaged injury cases, though no specific example is shown.

The players demanded that a third-party health official was on scene for all football activities to ensure that all COVID-19 prevention methods are being followed.

Still, starting quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson tweeted support for head coach Chip Kelly after news broke of the document and blame immediately went to Kelly."

Read in Bruins Nation: https://apple.news/AwDBSyEBBT5yM_YCRhcQ1Mw
 
Don’t believe coaches or officials are acting in their best interests, but they’re there playing for them anyways?
 
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