The 4-1-6 = Eagle repellent

[griz4life]

Watching the Thundering Herd defend Montana with the 4-1-6, it just kills the spread. If a team has a solid front 4 and a great middle linebacker it could really make things tough on a team like eastern.
Make me wonder if NAU has a front 4 thay can pull it off.

 

[Hammer]

Watching the Thundering Herd defend Montana with the 4-1-6, it just kills the spread. If a team has a solid front 4 and a great middle linebacker it could really make things tough on a team like eastern.
Make me wonder if NAU has a front 4 thay can pull it off.

Problem is the quick hitches and slants will tear up that D. You can basically walk down the field 5 yards at a time.

 

[GE1963]

Watching the Thundering Herd defend Montana with the 4-1-6, it just kills the spread. If a team has a solid front 4 and a great middle linebacker it could really make things tough on a team like eastern.
Make me wonder if NAU has a front 4 thay can pull it off.

No need to wonder, it wouldn't make a difference with this EAGS offense.

You need to worry about stopping Coastal Carolina's offense. They are a good team and the griz have not beat a good team. In fact, the griz have only beat one team with a winning record and that was the MSU bobcats that were in full meltdown mode.

 

[griz4life]

Watching the Thundering Herd defend Montana with the 4-1-6, it just kills the spread. If a team has a solid front 4 and a great middle linebacker it could really make things tough on a team like eastern.
Make me wonder if NAU has a front 4 thay can pull it off.

Problem is the quick hitches and slants will tear up that D. You can basically walk down the field 5 yards at a time.

2 minutes left in the 2nd quarter, Montana has 39 passing yards. The quick hitches and slants aren't cutting it. Oddly, the Griz put Dave under center and show a pro set in an attempt to pull someone out of that 6 man secondary. Actually works for a few plays.

 

[griz4life]

59 seconds left in the half, Wells gets a mismatch with a safety in man and scores. But it's pretty much 4 against 6 and the Herd is winning most possessions.

 

[Hammer]

59 seconds left in the half, Wells gets a mismatch with a safety in man and scores. But it's pretty much 4 against 6 and the Herd is winning most possessions.

How many times did they sack Dave in that game?? 10 or 12 if I remember correctly. Hard to believe they got that pressure out of a 4 man front without blitzing that much.

 

[griz4life]

It's amazing how much pressure the Herd had. Those weren't all coverage sacks.
I just have to think that if you wreck a passing game that much, you stand a chance of winning.

 

[grizaremoregooder]

Adams can beat you with his feet, no middle linebacker at the FCS level is going to be able to contain him by himself.

 

[1Griz_Fan]

Adams can beat you with his feet, no middle linebacker at the FCS level is going to be able to contain him by himself.

So true but the Vikings pressure made Adams look very mediocre at times so the key to stopping EWU's offense is to rush his throws and contain him from running similar to what Marshall did to Dickenson. Adams really looked bad for a while against PSU and a lot of his deep passes are not very accurate, he just puts enough air under them to let their playmaking receivers get to the ball. He was even quoted as saying his receivers make his job easy and make him look good.

I think there is a November McGhee in him just waiting to get out in these playoffs. As much as I don't want to see either NDSU or EWU in the championship game it would be an interesting matchup to see that tough defense take on that explosive offense.

 

[kemajic]

You need to worry about stopping Coastal Carolina's offense. They are a good team and the griz have not beat a good team. In fact, the griz have only beat one team with a winning record and that was the MSU bobcats that were in full meltdown mode.

We do not need to worry about CC until they get past BC. The playoff Montana team is not the same team that was surprised by NAU nor the one that took EWU to the wire; they are much better. And to be more relevant, Montana beat three BSC teams with winning BSC records, two on the road. Hate to disappoint you, but Montana is healthier and a dangerous team right now.

 

[kemajic]

It's amazing how much pressure the Herd had. Those weren't all coverage sacks.
I just have to think that if you wreck a passing game that much, you stand a chance of winning.

The '95 OL line was not as good with Gragg gone. Good, but not in the same league as the '94 OL. The Marshall DE's were the best in 1-AA; one an All-American. Many of the sacks were scrambles in which DD was not able to get back to the LOS. I would call those coverage sacks.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Watching the Thundering Herd defend Montana with the 4-1-6, it just kills the spread. If a team has a solid front 4 and a great middle linebacker it could really make things tough on a team like eastern.
Make me wonder if NAU has a front 4 thay can pull it off.

No need to wonder, it wouldn't make a difference with this EAGS offense.

You need to worry about stopping Coastal Carolina's offense. They are a good team and the griz have not beat a good team. In fact, the griz have only beat one team with a winning record and that was the MSU bobcats that were in full meltdown mode.

:lol:

Priceless. Really.

 

[RobGriz]

Watching the Thundering Herd defend Montana with the 4-1-6, it just kills the spread. If a team has a solid front 4 and a great middle linebacker it could really make things tough on a team like eastern.
Make me wonder if NAU has a front 4 thay can pull it off.

No need to wonder, it wouldn't make a difference with this EAGS offense.

You need to worry about stopping Coastal Carolina's offense. They are a good team and the griz have not beat a good team. In fact, the griz have only beat one team with a winning record and that was the MSU bobcats that were in full meltdown mode.

I am pretty sure that what I, as a FAN, am worrying about has absolutely no affect on what the TEAM is worrying about or planning for.

:roll:

 

[1Griz_Fan]

Watching the Thundering Herd defend Montana with the 4-1-6, it just kills the spread. If a team has a solid front 4 and a great middle linebacker it could really make things tough on a team like eastern.
Make me wonder if NAU has a front 4 thay can pull it off.

No need to wonder, it wouldn't make a difference with this EAGS offense.

You need to worry about stopping Coastal Carolina's offense. They are a good team and the griz have not beat a good team. In fact, the griz have only beat one team with a winning record and that was the MSU bobcats that were in full meltdown mode.

Ah so you are a glass half empty kind of guy, got it. For the half full fans out there the Griz beat two top 25 (at the time of game) teams this season while losing to two. Another team they beat was in the top 25 at one point as well. So the way I look at it is the Griz are 2-2 against top 25 teams so far this season.

And like another pointed out the Griz beat 3 Big Sky teams that were 5-3 in conference and one that was 4-4. They also defeated 2 teams that were 6-6 and would have had winning records had they beaten the Griz. Anyone saying App St sucks this year just needs to check their final score against Georgia Southern and then look what the 7-4 GS did to the Gators.

College football = Any Given Saturday...

 

[granitegriz]

EWU has no run game beside the shoota. Play the nickle on 1st and 2nd downs with Gamboa. On third down, play the dime with Whitted. This means JPK would not play much...they could rotate JPK and Tripp in at DE on third downs. Hopefully the rematch gets to take place.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Watching the Thundering Herd defend Montana with the 4-1-6, it just kills the spread. If a team has a solid front 4 and a great middle linebacker it could really make things tough on a team like eastern.
Make me wonder if NAU has a front 4 thay can pull it off.

No need to wonder, it wouldn't make a difference with this EAGS offense.

You need to worry about stopping Coastal Carolina's offense. They are a good team and the griz have not beat a good team. In fact, the griz have only beat one team with a winning record and that was the MSU bobcats that were in full meltdown mode.

Ah so you are a glass half empty kind of guy, got it. For the half full fans out there the Griz beat two top 25 (at the time of game) teams this season while losing to two. Another team they beat was in the top 25 at one point as well. So the way I look at it is the Griz are 2-2 against top 25 teams so far this season.

And like another pointed out the Griz beat 3 Big Sky teams that were 5-3 in conference and one that was 4-4. They also defeated 2 teams that were 6-6 and would have had winning records had they beaten the Griz. Anyone saying App St sucks this year just needs to check their final score against Georgia Southern and then look what the 7-4 GS did to the Gators.

College football = Any Given Saturday...

This argument about the Griz strength of schedule or lack there of really has to stop. Both sides of the divide are perpetuating a meaningless discussion. It's the playoffs now where it's "lose one and you're done". Believe me, In a couple if weeks nobody is going to care what a particular team's regular season schedule was. And remember "College Football= Any Given Sunday" cuts both ways. Enjoy the playoffs!

 

[mtgrizfankb]

Don't worry about ewu.... I'm only on your forum making sure you guys are not talking about our guys because..........

 

[putter]

Billy Lyon was a beast. What was he 6'6" and 290? Just an animal on that front 4...

 

[1Griz_Fan]

EWU has no run game beside the shoota. Play the nickle on 1st and 2nd downs with Gamboa. On third down, play the dime with Whitted. This means JPK would not play much...they could rotate JPK and Tripp in at DE on third downs. Hopefully the rematch gets to take place.

EWU averages 171.8 yds rushing a game at 5 yds a carry, that is not exactly having no run game besides Adams considering that is only 14.7 yds short of what the Griz average running a game with a slightly better avg per attempt.

Quincy Forte has 739 yds rushing for an avg of 6.2 a carry with 7 tds for 67.2 avg/g while Adams has 491 yds with an avg of 4.7 ypc and 4 tds for 40.9 avg/g. Although they are a passing juggernaut they are not entirely one dimensional either.