Take the program backward?

[PlayerRep]

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I agree Pflu was on the cusp of something special. Smart guy with great offensive mind. I always felt he tried to put his in offense in too quickly (the first year) with Hauck recruits that were accustomed to grind in out. Should have phased it in. Pflu would be my first choice and no, i dont think he would set us back a bit.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/press-releases/montana-failed-monitor-football-program

"The former head coach failed to monitor the football program by not reporting the booster activity surrounding the arrest of the two student-athletes, not monitoring the relationships between boosters and student-athletes and allowing a student assistant to engage in coaching activity."

Why is it the coach's job, as opposed to the compliance department and athletic department, to monitor 2 of those 3 things?

Booster activity? Neither Pflu nor anyone else in the athletic department even knew the couples providing meals in their home. It would be impossible for the coach or anyone to monitor that.

The compliance officer, i.e. Gee, and others in the athletic dept., knew of the mom bailing out the 2 guys late one night, at the request of the grandpa of one who lived in CA, and that she was repaid the several hundred dollars without a week. The compliance officer, i.e. Gee, and others in the athletic dept. knew who was representing the players. It was their job to monitor those things, not the head coach. It looks to me that Gee and Engstrom just pointed the finger at Pflu because he was gone and unable to participate in the investigation and know what was going on.

The student assistant was a college kid who helped with video for the team. He never even played college football for UM or anywhere. What he was allowed to do related to coaching was virtually nothing. What coaching value can you even get from a college kid dong video who hasn't even played college football? Answer: zero. Another BS charge that Gee and Engstrom, and their inexperienced counsel, failed to defend.

Do any of you really think that what Pflu did, or didn't do, was "failure to monitor" and should have resulted in a level 2 violation? By the way, the athletic dept. was also cited in these matters, not just the coach.

 

[GrizLA]

I want Stitt to stay, but I want to see him make changes at DC and bring in a special teams/quality control coach.

If we could just sure up some fundamentals and just improve on special teams...we would look so much better this year.

Stitt and his offense works...its all the other stuff that Stitt seems to not have time to pay attention to that is killing this team.

If that is the case you have to have a guy that can get the job done in the other phases of the game without Stitts oversight.

I agree...quick turnabouts happen but they are rare, with new coaches. UM seems to have no special team coach to speak of, a solid kicking game, or much of consistent defense to offset the weaknesses the
O might have.

 

[GrizLA]

Pflu was on staff for at least a year before being named head coach. He had rapport with the players which may have made it a smoother transition. Not sure that's an apples to apples comparison.

That being said. I think the "wait for his guys" mantra is a total sandbagging cop out. Using that as an excuse frustrates me to no end.

Those “be happy for what you have” ppl voted Hillary. All losers.

Don’t accept mediocrity.

yeah, I'm tired of winning...

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Besides Bobby Hauck (and all current DII coaches - because they're just not qualified), please list your top five candidates for the position. Also, please omit any coach whose current base salary is more than twice what we're paying Stitt:

I'm fine with Stitt for now, but if he left, then.

1. Pflu - Regents will never approve
2. Ty Gregorak - That bridge is done burned
3. Andy Thompson
4. Justin Green - based on what?
5. Choate -You've got to be kidding....

That leaves Thompson.

1. Why do you think Regents would never approve? What would regents hold against him? I know a bunch of the regents, several quite well. Met with one last week for several hours, just to shoot the breeze. Have worked with one for 35 years. I don't see anyone on the regents being a big problem. They all know how bad of a president Engstrom was, and how many bad decisions he made.

2. Don't agree on TG. If Stitt and coaches are gone, and Haslam goes, who would hold anything against him? He still has lots of supporters and friends at the top of Griz Nation.

4. Based on being a good coach with a lot of Griz history and contacts. Recruiting.

5. Why? I think Choate would be terrific if Stitt were not here.

Why would Haslam go??? Hes been a good AD. Hes running the only successful portion of the University right now.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Credit where credit is due: at least PR listed five names.

 

[PlayerRep]

I'm fine with Stitt for now, but if he left, then.

1. Pflu - Regents will never approve
2. Ty Gregorak - That bridge is done burned
3. Andy Thompson
4. Justin Green - based on what?
5. Choate -You've got to be kidding....

That leaves Thompson.

1. Why do you think Regents would never approve? What would regents hold against him? I know a bunch of the regents, several quite well. Met with one last week for several hours, just to shoot the breeze. Have worked with one for 35 years. I don't see anyone on the regents being a big problem. They all know how bad of a president Engstrom was, and how many bad decisions he made.

2. Don't agree on TG. If Stitt and coaches are gone, and Haslam goes, who would hold anything against him? He still has lots of supporters and friends at the top of Griz Nation.

4. Based on being a good coach with a lot of Griz history and contacts. Recruiting.

5. Why? I think Choate would be terrific if Stitt were not here.

Why would Haslam go??? Hes been a good AD. Hes running the only successful portion of the University right now.

Don't know, but if Stitt were not to work out, then wouldn't Haslam be blamed for that? And football is the most important sport at the athletic department. People complained about the prior volleyball coach. Or, maybe Haslam is so good that he would move to a bigger/better program.

 

[PlayerRep]

Credit where credit is due: at least PR listed five names.

I am honored that you finally said something positive about me after your almost a dozen years of posting.

 

[CoppernGold]

Jerome Souers.

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

I f***[*] love how not even five weeks ago everyone was convinced that Stitt's offense just wasn’t going to work at this level, and now no one questions it.

I am not convinced his offense = National Championship contenders.

I know there are some examples of fast-paced, spread offenses having success...

I just believe ball-control, clock-killing, efficient offenses win in December and beyond. I've tried to keep an open mind about it because Stitt's offense is fun when it's working.

I can't remember a year when I was so disappointed with the defense. Special Teams...I have no words.

+1000

 

[behappp]

I f***[*] love how not even five weeks ago everyone was convinced that Stitt's offense just wasn’t going to work at this level, and now no one questions it.

I am not convinced his offense = National Championship contenders.

I know there are some examples of fast-paced, spread offenses having success...

I just believe ball-control, clock-killing, efficient offenses win in December and beyond. I've tried to keep an open mind about it because Stitt's offense is fun when it's working.

I can't remember a year when I was so disappointed with the defense. Special Teams...I have no words.

+1000

Your kidding right? You're in this thread talking about national championships? Right now I'm wondering if a coaching change can help us win an average BSC
But of course you are correct about defense and STs
A hurry up O may be able to compete at the highest level in FCS, but there is no doubt in my mind that one needs a dominant D and a better ST than we have seen from B.S. teams.

Stitt has a good O coordinator in Selle, and does a goodjob of recruiting. Let's see what happens in the last 3 games.

 

[grizghost]

...talked with a ex-Boise player that told me Pflu was a unbelievable coach and could make adjustments
quickly..he couldn't believe the program let him go!...its been all down hill from there..l know they
would never hire him but he would take the talent we've have to NC..IF we have to hire someone doesn't
mean the program would suffer..

 

[whitefishbear]

!

I agree Pflu was on the cusp of something special. Smart guy with great offensive mind. I always felt he tried to put his in offense in too quickly (the first year) with Hauck recruits that were accustomed to grind in out. Should have phased it in. Pflu would be my first choice and no, i dont think he would set us back a bit.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/press-releases/montana-failed-monitor-football-program

"The former head coach failed to monitor the football program by not reporting the booster activity surrounding the arrest of the two student-athletes, not monitoring the relationships between boosters and student-athletes and allowing a student assistant to engage in coaching activity."

Why is it the coach's job, as opposed to the compliance department and athletic department, to monitor 2 of those 3 things?

Booster activity? Neither Pflu nor anyone else in the athletic department even knew the couples providing meals in their home. It would be impossible for the coach or anyone to monitor that.

The compliance officer, i.e. Gee, and others in the athletic dept., knew of the mom bailing out the 2 guys late one night, at the request of the grandpa of one who lived in CA, and that she was repaid the several hundred dollars without a week. The compliance officer, i.e. Gee, and others in the athletic dept. knew who was representing the players. It was their job to monitor those things, not the head coach. It looks to me that Gee and Engstrom just pointed the finger at Pflu because he was gone and unable to participate in the investigation and know what was going on.

The student assistant was a college kid who helped with video for the team. He never even played college football for UM or anywhere. What he was allowed to do related to coaching was virtually nothing. What coaching value can you even get from a college kid dong video who hasn't even played college football? Answer: zero. Another BS charge that Gee and Engstrom, and their inexperienced counsel, failed to defend.

Do any of you really think that what Pflu did, or didn't do, was "failure to monitor" and should have resulted in a level 2 violation? By the way, the athletic dept. was also cited in these matters, not just the coach.

Pflu did nothing wrong in publicly supporting his player, who was eventually acquitted while Pflu's career was ruined by that idiot Engstrom. If Pflu had been allowed to remain as head coach, we would not be having these pissing match posts about whether to keep our head coach, because we would be winning Big Sky championships and going deep into the playoffs. Engstrom ruined the university and took the football program down with it. And the dumb-asses reward him by giving him a faculty position!

 

[reinell30]

If it were up to me in anyway to hire a coach for UM football, I would hire Pflu in a heartbeat! I just don't think he would ever be interested in returning. I also don't believe the person's responsible for hiring a coach would consider him as a candidate for the position if it were available.

 

[grizghost]

...for those who think the program would go backwards if they hired a new coach should look at the
school of mines after Stitt left..its seems like they did pretty well after Stitt left and had their deepest
runs in school history (ok this year)...so all is not lost..a good coach can utilize the talent quickly..

 

[kemajic]

...for those who think the program would go backwards if they hired a new coach should look at the
school of mines after Stitt left..its seems like they did pretty well after Stitt left and had their deepest
runs in school history (ok this year)...so all is not lost..a good coach can utilize the talent quickly..

Thought he was indispensable down there.

 

[fanofzoo]

...for those who think the program would go backwards if they hired a new coach should look at the
school of mines after Stitt left..its seems like they did pretty well after Stitt left and had their deepest
runs in school history (ok this year)...so all is not lost..a good coach can utilize the talent quickly..

Yes you are right about that.
Frenchtown 2-7 last year, this year with the then assistant coaches are 7-2 with a playoff win. Can happen.