Sure Love to See the Yankees in Last Place

[Wildman 4]

I don't know where he gets that, but they are not losing money. They bring in over $300M a year from TV alone.

:thumb:

 

[DuCharme]

Goin back aways, but in '84, Detroit started the year 35-5. We all know how that ended. With rings.

With all due respect, the Tigers aren't The Yankees, the most successful team in pro sports history.

That's a given. I wasn't arguing the sustained success of the Tigers. I wasn't arguing at all. Just pointing out that a great start can mean something. Even for the Yankees.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Actually GB, I read Alpha's post a little differently. Since the Yanks have already won 8 games, I read his post to mean that if the Yanks lost the rest of their games this season they would lose 154...which, of course, is not enough for him.

Due to GB1's complete lack of math, I understand his comments. I hate to keep dumbing my posts down for everyone when I know there are sharp people like OTG that get it.

Basketball sucks and I don't give it any credit because it doesn't earn any.

Baseball on the other hand is the best sport ever invented, and I challenge anyone to find someone that knows more than I do about it.

It just won't happen.

 

[Dickenson is God]

Yankees also sell more merchandise than anyone, along with the highest home attendance in MBL

And they "lose" money?? Must be the worst businessmen in sports, too.

I don't know where he gets that, but they are not losing money. They bring in over $300M a year from TV alone.

Where did I get it ? http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/2010AP_BBO_Team_Values.html

Despite the record evaluation for the Yankees, Forbes said they were the only ones to post an operating loss after revenue sharing last year. The magazine estimated the Yankees were $25.2 million in the red on operating revenue of $302 million, after revenue-sharing payments to the commissioner's office. The Yankees estimate their revenue-sharing bill for 2006 will be about $70 million.

Bringing in tons of money doesn't mean you are keeping it as profit. You have to factor in how much it takes to run the business.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Don't expect that to absorb into anything.

 

[Grizbacker1]

Yankees also sell more merchandise than anyone, along with the highest home attendance in MBL

And they "lose" money?? Must be the worst businessmen in sports, too.

I don't know where he gets that, but they are not losing money. They bring in over $300M a year from TV alone.

Where did I get it ? http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/2010AP_BBO_Team_Values.html

Despite the record evaluation for the Yankees, Forbes said they were the only ones to post an operating loss after revenue sharing last year. The magazine estimated the Yankees were $25.2 million in the red on operating revenue of $302 million, after revenue-sharing payments to the commissioner's office. The Yankees estimate their revenue-sharing bill for 2006 will be about $70 million.

Bringing in tons of money doesn't mean you are keeping it as profit. You have to factor in how much it takes to run the business.

There are also sources of revenue that are not included in that figure so say what you will. Money losing fanchises do not have a 17% increase in value as the Yankees did this year, making the franchise worth $1.2 BILLION, far better than any other sports team in the US. The key word in your report is estimating.

 

[Grizbacker1]

Actually GB, I read Alpha's post a little differently. Since the Yanks have already won 8 games, I read his post to mean that if the Yanks lost the rest of their games this season they would lose 154...which, of course, is not enough for him.

Due to GB1's complete lack of math, I understand his comments. I hate to keep dumbing my posts down for everyone when I know there are sharp people like OTG that get it.

Basketball sucks and I don't give it any credit because it doesn't earn any.

Baseball on the other hand is the best sport ever invented, and I challenge anyone to find someone that knows more than I do about it.

It just won't happen.

I had to question your numbers alpha after you proved you couldn't count past 8. :thumb:

 

[Grizbacker1]

Actually GB, I read Alpha's post a little differently. Since the Yanks have already won 8 games, I read his post to mean that if the Yanks lost the rest of their games this season they would lose 154...which, of course, is not enough for him.

Due to GB1's complete lack of math, I understand his comments. I hate to keep dumbing my posts down for everyone when I know there are sharp people like OTG that get it.

Basketball sucks and I don't give it any credit because it doesn't earn any.

Baseball on the other hand is the best sport ever invented, and I challenge anyone to find someone that knows more than I do about it.

It just won't happen.

I suppose you knew about the guy who is rolling over on a ton of MLB players that he has supplied steroids and HGH to over the last 10 years. Stay tuned when this hits the fan. Looking more and more like Canseco was telling the truth when he saiud it is rampant in baseball, et the only one you hear about is Bonds. Here is a link to the indictment against the former Met's emplyee who cut a deal with the Feds.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0427073roids1.html

 

[Wildman 4]

Baseball on the other hand is the best sport ever invented, and I challenge anyone to find someone that knows more than I do about it.

I can't wait to get to Butte!!! I suppose when I pull up Montana and find you sittin' on the curb checkin stats on the baseball cards in your spokes you'll think that makes you an expert, right? Just cuz you know the Yankees suck......well we all know that.

 

[Hammer]

Actually GB, I read Alpha's post a little differently. Since the Yanks have already won 8 games, I read his post to mean that if the Yanks lost the rest of their games this season they would lose 154...which, of course, is not enough for him.

Due to GB1's complete lack of math, I understand his comments. I hate to keep dumbing my posts down for everyone when I know there are sharp people like OTG that get it.

Basketball sucks and I don't give it any credit because it doesn't earn any.

Baseball on the other hand is the best sport ever invented, and I challenge anyone to find someone that knows more than I do about it.

It just won't happen.

You met someone last fall that does, my sisters husband at the EWU game. Complete baseball freak, played in the minor leagues for a few years. He is a complete baseball junkie, and I would be surprised if anybody in the country could beat him at a game of baseball trivia. And it's not just the current stuff, he can tell you off the top of his head who led the NL in steals in 1932. It's really amazing.

 

[Sportin' Life]

7 game skid. arty:

Red Sox 11
Yankees 4

I thought Pettite would be the Yank's best chance in the series. Maybe they can pull it together.....later. Why did Torre pitch Rivera in the ninth down by three runs?

 

[GrizBBIsKing]

7 game skid. arty:

Red Sox 11
Yankees 4

I thought Pettite would be the Yank's best chance in the series. Maybe they can pull it together.....later. Why did Torre pitch Rivera in the ninth down by three runs?

You have to give a pitcher some work or they do get rusty and not as effective. It has been a while since Rivera pitched, So, Torre has to put Rivera in for some work.

 

[Sportin' Life]

7 game skid. arty:

Red Sox 11
Yankees 4

I thought Pettite would be the Yank's best chance in the series. Maybe they can pull it together.....later. Why did Torre pitch Rivera in the ninth down by three runs?

You have to give a pitcher some work or they do get rusty and not as effective. It has been a while since Rivera pitched, So, Torre has to put Rivera in for some work.

The rusty part stands to reason since he gave up one or two runs.

 

[GrizBBIsKing]

7 game skid. arty:

Red Sox 11
Yankees 4

I thought Pettite would be the Yank's best chance in the series. Maybe they can pull it together.....later. Why did Torre pitch Rivera in the ninth down by three runs?

You have to give a pitcher some work or they do get rusty and not as effective. It has been a while since Rivera pitched, So, Torre has to put Rivera in for some work.

The rusty part stands to reason since he gave up one or two runs.

this is only the second game he pitched since he blew the 11th game against the Red Sox of his career (Rivera is the best closer in baseball, except when against the Red Sox). Last Time he pitched it was last monday when Yankees lost to Tampa Bay. He was put in for same reason as today. To get some work. If he pitched only in save situations, He would be sitting on his duff for over a week. that isn't good for any relief pitcher, especially a closer.

 

[Grizbacker1]

No need to panic, there is nothing to be lost in Apreil, the Yanks were down farther than this last season, and we all know who won the division, again.

 

[Sportin' Life]

No need to panic, there is nothing to be lost in Apreil, the Yanks were down farther than this last season, and we all know who won the division, again.

I know they are the Yankees...but that doesn't mean they are owed the division. They have to go out on the field and win it, and games in April do count toward that total. Half their wins are miracle gifts from A-Rod. No the problems are big in the Bronx.

Torre has probably outlived his usefulness to New York, but Steinbrenner doesn't seem to have that same mentality to get rid of him.

What they need is starting pitching and a new closer. Maybe they will actually get some starting pitching, but I doubt they replace Rivera.

From espn:

It's come to this for New York: Mariano Rivera, who doesn't have a save this season, was sent in to get some work in the ninth and allowed four of five batters to reach. He gave up four runs and got just one out, raising his ERA to 12.15.

The Yankees will be sitting out this October.

 

[Sportin' Life]

Reprise. :dance:

 

[Grizbacker1]

Reprise. :dance:

Typical, I notice you were absent when the Sux dropped 2 of 3 to the Yankees. :lame:

 

[Sportin' Life]

Reprise. :dance:

Typical, I notice you were absent when the Sux dropped 2 of 3 to the Yankees. :lame:

Uh....like I said before.....I am more of a Mariners fan than anything. So I guess it is great for their psyche that the Yankees managed to win a couple of meaningless games against the Red Sox. But I really kind of wished they wouldn't have rolled over so nicely for the Angels.


Weren't you absent for the Angels sweep? Not really lame though, just whatever... :werd:

 

[GrizBiz]

Yankees also sell more merchandise than anyone, along with the highest home attendance in MBL

And they "lose" money?? Must be the worst businessmen in sports, too.

I don't know where he gets that, but they are not losing money. They bring in over $300M a year from TV alone.

Where did I get it ? http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/2010AP_BBO_Team_Values.html

Despite the record evaluation for the Yankees, Forbes said they were the only ones to post an operating loss after revenue sharing last year. The magazine estimated the Yankees were $25.2 million in the red on operating revenue of $302 million, after revenue-sharing payments to the commissioner's office. The Yankees estimate their revenue-sharing bill for 2006 will be about $70 million.

Bringing in tons of money doesn't mean you are keeping it as profit. You have to factor in how much it takes to run the business.

The Yankees play a shell game with the television network, YES. Both the Yankees team and YES are owned by a holding company called Yankee Global Enterprises. The TV network pays the team vastly under market rates for the broadcasts and then rakes in the ad revenue on the back end. If you want to know why the value of the Yankees is so high, you have to look beyond the finances of the Yankee team and look to the balance sheets of YES and Yankee Global Enterprises.