Starting from scratch?

[N D S U]

Will the Griz get their first win against Wyoming because of this?
http://www.ktvq.com/news/wyoming-qb-to-forego-senior-season-enter-nfl-draft/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good question NL and I also wonder if Bohl will be the next Joe Glenn. Wyoming is not an easy place to recruit to. I hope the Griz kick the living shiitake out of Wyoming next year. Not sure it will happen, but it is as good a time as any to play them.

The Joe Glenn comparisons are completely crazy.

Craig Bohl recruited and coached two extremely good teams. 2006-2007 they were ranked #1 for good portions of both years, finished 10-1 in both years, and had 3 FBS wins, but good not compete for a championship, but were obviously championship caliber. The 2007 team piss pounded Central Michigan 44-14. Central Michigan was pretty good that year as they won the MAC. The 2007 team then went on to beat a Big 10 team in Minnesota. Those teams still has 3 players in the NFL from the defensive unit, Joe Mays (starter), Craig Dahl (has been a starter) and Ramon Humber. He also recruited and coached this current team which is possibly on their way to a third national championship. During his tenure, NDSU is 7-3 against FBS programs, including 4 wins over teams from BCS conferences.

Craig Bohl has tons of FBS experience and was a defensive coordinator for a national championship team.

Joe Glenn won 2 D2 titles, then took over a Grizz program filled with players that were not his and won 1 national championship. Joe Glenn had 0 FBS experience before moving to Wyoming.


Craig Bohl clearly has a more proven track record than Joe Glenn did before heading to Wyoming. NDSU's teams in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2012, and 2013 could have easily competed in a conference like the Mountain West. This 2013 team I would argue would win it, especially considering they are the 23rd ranked Football team in all of college football in Jeff Sagarin's poll. The highest ranked Mountain West team is currently sitting at 45th. Point is, he has already built teams at NDSU which could compete in the Mountain West with less resources than he has at Wyoming. To think he can't do the same thing at Wyoming is foolish.

 

[N D S U]

Quick question for all Grizz fans.

What what the result the last time Craig Bohl was a new head coach and that team played the Grizz?

 

[EverettGriz]

Quick question for all Grizz fans.

What what the result the last time Craig Bohl was a new head coach and that team played the Grizz?

Dunno. I have no idea who the "Grizz" are.

 

[Copper Griz]

Will the Griz get their first win against Wyoming because of this?
http://www.ktvq.com/news/wyoming-qb-to-forego-senior-season-enter-nfl-draft/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good question NL and I also wonder if Bohl will be the next Joe Glenn. Wyoming is not an easy place to recruit to. I hope the Griz kick the living shiitake out of Wyoming next year. Not sure it will happen, but it is as good a time as any to play them.

The Joe Glenn comparisons are completely crazy.

Craig Bohl recruited and coached two extremely good teams. 2006-2007 they were ranked #1 for good portions of both years, finished 10-1 in both years, and had 3 FBS wins, but good not compete for a championship, but were obviously championship caliber. The 2007 team piss pounded Central Michigan 44-14. Central Michigan was pretty good that year as they won the MAC. The 2007 team then went on to beat a Big 10 team in Minnesota. Those teams still has 3 players in the NFL from the defensive unit, Joe Mays (starter), Craig Dahl (has been a starter) and Ramon Humber. He also recruited and coached this current team which is possibly on their way to a third national championship. During his tenure, NDSU is 7-3 against FBS programs, including 4 wins over teams from BCS conferences.

Craig Bohl has tons of FBS experience and was a defensive coordinator for a national championship team.

Joe Glenn won 2 D2 titles, then took over a Grizz program filled with players that were not his and won 1 national championship. Joe Glenn had 0 FBS experience before moving to Wyoming.


Craig Bohl clearly has a more proven track record than Joe Glenn did before heading to Wyoming. NDSU's teams in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2012, and 2013 could have easily competed in a conference like the Mountain West. This 2013 team I would argue would win it, especially considering they are the 23rd ranked Football team in all of college football in Jeff Sagarin's poll. The highest ranked Mountain West team is currently sitting at 45th. Point is, he has already built teams at NDSU which could compete in the Mountain West with less resources than he has at Wyoming. To think he can't do the same thing at Wyoming is foolish.

Good stats NDSU and I am not saying he is a mediocre or bad coach. You still have not addressed the recruiting question. Can he recruit top caliber players to Wyoming? Kemjac believes he is a coach that develops players. I have no reason to believe this is anything but the truth given his record and performance. Having said that - he was getting top caliber players from the mid west that were not going to FBS schools. He had a wide swath where there was not really an attractive FBS school for many of the players on his teams. Kem was likely correct - he might not be a great recruiter because he did not have to be. Wyoming is going to test his skills as a recruiter. You could be the best coach on earth, but if you don't have the horses - you are not going to win the race. I will be interested to see how he does at Wyoming. I hope he succeeds (minus the Griz playing in Laramie that is). Notice Griz only has one Z.

 

[IdaGriz01]

Will the Griz get their first win against Wyoming because of this?
http://www.ktvq.com/news/wyoming-qb-to-forego-senior-season-enter-nfl-draft/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good question NL and I also wonder if Bohl will be the next Joe Glenn. Wyoming is not an easy place to recruit to. I hope the Griz kick the living shiitake out of Wyoming next year. Not sure it will happen, but it is as good a time as any to play them.

The Joe Glenn comparisons are completely crazy.

Craig Bohl recruited and coached two extremely good teams. 2006-2007 they were ranked #1 for good portions of both years, finished 10-1 in both years, and had 3 FBS wins, but good not compete for a championship, but were obviously championship caliber. The 2007 team piss pounded Central Michigan 44-14. Central Michigan was pretty good that year as they won the MAC. The 2007 team then went on to beat a Big 10 team in Minnesota. Those teams still has 3 players in the NFL from the defensive unit, Joe Mays (starter), Craig Dahl (has been a starter) and Ramon Humber. He also recruited and coached this current team which is possibly on their way to a third national championship. During his tenure, NDSU is 7-3 against FBS programs, including 4 wins over teams from BCS conferences.

Craig Bohl has tons of FBS experience and was a defensive coordinator for a national championship team.

Joe Glenn won 2 D2 titles, then took over a Grizz program filled with players that were not his and won 1 national championship. Joe Glenn had 0 FBS experience before moving to Wyoming.

Craig Bohl clearly has a more proven track record than Joe Glenn did before heading to Wyoming. NDSU's teams in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2012, and 2013 could have easily competed in a conference like the Mountain West. This 2013 team I would argue would win it, especially considering they are the 23rd ranked Football team in all of college football in Jeff Sagarin's poll. The highest ranked Mountain West team is currently sitting at 45th. Point is, he has already built teams at NDSU which could compete in the Mountain West with less resources than he has at Wyoming. To think he can't do the same thing at Wyoming is foolish.

Bohl is far more likely than not to be a success at Wyoming ... and the Glenn comparisons are, at best, lame. Still, all that does take time, and so-called "buy-in" from the team.

Now, he should have a lot of "street cred," going in, with what his NDSU teams did against FBS opponents. And Wyoming (5-7) was a bad, but not terrible team last year -- although they did not have any "good" wins. The Griz might pull off an upset if the new staff has trouble getting through to the (mostly) previously-recruited players. But I would not be willing to put any money on it.

 

[kemajic]

Quick question for all Grizz fans.

What what the result the last time Craig Bohl was a new head coach and that team played the Grizz?

You mean that Griz team that also had a new (and inexperienced) HC?

 

[NLGrizFan]

Will the Griz get their first win against Wyoming because of this?
http://www.ktvq.com/news/wyoming-qb-to-forego-senior-season-enter-nfl-draft/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good question NL and I also wonder if Bohl will be the next Joe Glenn. Wyoming is not an easy place to recruit to. I hope the Griz kick the living shiitake out of Wyoming next year. Not sure it will happen, but it is as good a time as any to play them.

The Joe Glenn comparisons are completely crazy.

Craig Bohl recruited and coached two extremely good teams. 2006-2007 they were ranked #1 for good portions of both years, finished 10-1 in both years, and had 3 FBS wins, but good not compete for a championship, but were obviously championship caliber. The 2007 team piss pounded Central Michigan 44-14. Central Michigan was pretty good that year as they won the MAC. The 2007 team then went on to beat a Big 10 team in Minnesota. Those teams still has 3 players in the NFL from the defensive unit, Joe Mays (starter), Craig Dahl (has been a starter) and Ramon Humber. He also recruited and coached this current team which is possibly on their way to a third national championship. During his tenure, NDSU is 7-3 against FBS programs, including 4 wins over teams from BCS conferences.

Craig Bohl has tons of FBS experience and was a defensive coordinator for a national championship team.

Joe Glenn won 2 D2 titles, then took over a Grizz program filled with players that were not his and won 1 national championship. Joe Glenn had 0 FBS experience before moving to Wyoming.


Craig Bohl clearly has a more proven track record than Joe Glenn did before heading to Wyoming. NDSU's teams in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2012, and 2013 could have easily competed in a conference like the Mountain West. This 2013 team I would argue would win it, especially considering they are the 23rd ranked Football team in all of college football in Jeff Sagarin's poll. The highest ranked Mountain West team is currently sitting at 45th. Point is, he has already built teams at NDSU which could compete in the Mountain West with less resources than he has at Wyoming. To think he can't do the same thing at Wyoming is foolish.

In his first year, I'll rephrase that, his first GamE as a COWBOY and after possibly losing his starting QB and a team with a losing record, I'm gonna say the Griz have a damn good chance at pulling off an upset. I'm not saying he is a bad coach but this isn't ND State and he's gonna have his hands full at UW. We all seen what happened in 2008-09.

 

[N D S U]

Will the Griz get their first win against Wyoming because of this?
http://www.ktvq.com/news/wyoming-qb-to-forego-senior-season-enter-nfl-draft/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good question NL and I also wonder if Bohl will be the next Joe Glenn. Wyoming is not an easy place to recruit to. I hope the Griz kick the living shiitake out of Wyoming next year. Not sure it will happen, but it is as good a time as any to play them.

The Joe Glenn comparisons are completely crazy.

Craig Bohl recruited and coached two extremely good teams. 2006-2007 they were ranked #1 for good portions of both years, finished 10-1 in both years, and had 3 FBS wins, but good not compete for a championship, but were obviously championship caliber. The 2007 team piss pounded Central Michigan 44-14. Central Michigan was pretty good that year as they won the MAC. The 2007 team then went on to beat a Big 10 team in Minnesota. Those teams still has 3 players in the NFL from the defensive unit, Joe Mays (starter), Craig Dahl (has been a starter) and Ramon Humber. He also recruited and coached this current team which is possibly on their way to a third national championship. During his tenure, NDSU is 7-3 against FBS programs, including 4 wins over teams from BCS conferences.

Craig Bohl has tons of FBS experience and was a defensive coordinator for a national championship team.

Joe Glenn won 2 D2 titles, then took over a Grizz program filled with players that were not his and won 1 national championship. Joe Glenn had 0 FBS experience before moving to Wyoming.


Craig Bohl clearly has a more proven track record than Joe Glenn did before heading to Wyoming. NDSU's teams in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2012, and 2013 could have easily competed in a conference like the Mountain West. This 2013 team I would argue would win it, especially considering they are the 23rd ranked Football team in all of college football in Jeff Sagarin's poll. The highest ranked Mountain West team is currently sitting at 45th. Point is, he has already built teams at NDSU which could compete in the Mountain West with less resources than he has at Wyoming. To think he can't do the same thing at Wyoming is foolish.

In his first year, I'll rephrase that, his first GamE as a COWBOY and after possibly losing his starting QB and a team with a losing record, I'm gonna say the Griz have a damn good chance at pulling off an upset. I'm not saying he is a bad coach but this isn't ND State and he's gonna have his hands full at UW. We all seen what happened in 2008-09.

In 2008 NDSU had a very good team, and lost over half of their players due to injuries, most of which happened to their best players. They finished 6-5 in a tough Missouri Valley Conference. Injuries happen.

2009 was a weird year. 6 defensive players got kicked off of the team. They switched to a 3-4 to try to compensate for the loss of the D-lineman on the team and it totally backfired. They finished pretty poor at 3-8. They were very competitive despite having that bad record.Their worst loss was a 17 point game to Iowa State (worst loss under Coach Bohl during his tenure). Besides that, they lost numerous games by 3-4 points.
http://www.gobison.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=46&path=football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2010 they bounce back and are a blown call away from the Semi-finals and beat Kansas.

Good coaches have bad seasons from time to time for numerous reasons, sometimes under circumstances they can not control, but a sign of a good coach is being able to come back. His worst loss in 11 years as NDSU's coach is 17 points to an FBS team from the Big 12. That is freaking remarkable if you ask me and is the sign of a good coach.

I do agree with everyone on here that the Griz have an excellent shot at beating Wyoming. All I am responding to is the people who are trying to say he won't be successful at Wyoming and that he is just another Joe Glenn.

 

[N D S U]

Will the Griz get their first win against Wyoming because of this?
http://www.ktvq.com/news/wyoming-qb-to-forego-senior-season-enter-nfl-draft/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good question NL and I also wonder if Bohl will be the next Joe Glenn. Wyoming is not an easy place to recruit to. I hope the Griz kick the living shiitake out of Wyoming next year. Not sure it will happen, but it is as good a time as any to play them.

The Joe Glenn comparisons are completely crazy.

Craig Bohl recruited and coached two extremely good teams. 2006-2007 they were ranked #1 for good portions of both years, finished 10-1 in both years, and had 3 FBS wins, but good not compete for a championship, but were obviously championship caliber. The 2007 team piss pounded Central Michigan 44-14. Central Michigan was pretty good that year as they won the MAC. The 2007 team then went on to beat a Big 10 team in Minnesota. Those teams still has 3 players in the NFL from the defensive unit, Joe Mays (starter), Craig Dahl (has been a starter) and Ramon Humber. He also recruited and coached this current team which is possibly on their way to a third national championship. During his tenure, NDSU is 7-3 against FBS programs, including 4 wins over teams from BCS conferences.

Craig Bohl has tons of FBS experience and was a defensive coordinator for a national championship team.

Joe Glenn won 2 D2 titles, then took over a Grizz program filled with players that were not his and won 1 national championship. Joe Glenn had 0 FBS experience before moving to Wyoming.


Craig Bohl clearly has a more proven track record than Joe Glenn did before heading to Wyoming. NDSU's teams in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2012, and 2013 could have easily competed in a conference like the Mountain West. This 2013 team I would argue would win it, especially considering they are the 23rd ranked Football team in all of college football in Jeff Sagarin's poll. The highest ranked Mountain West team is currently sitting at 45th. Point is, he has already built teams at NDSU which could compete in the Mountain West with less resources than he has at Wyoming. To think he can't do the same thing at Wyoming is foolish.

Good stats NDSU and I am not saying he is a mediocre or bad coach. You still have not addressed the recruiting question. Can he recruit top caliber players to Wyoming? Kemjac believes he is a coach that develops players. I have no reason to believe this is anything but the truth given his record and performance. Having said that - he was getting top caliber players from the mid west that were not going to FBS schools. He had a wide swath where there was not really an attractive FBS school for many of the players on his teams. Kem was likely correct - he might not be a great recruiter because he did not have to be. Wyoming is going to test his skills as a recruiter. You could be the best coach on earth, but if you don't have the horses - you are not going to win the race. I will be interested to see how he does at Wyoming. I hope he succeeds (minus the Griz playing in Laramie that is). Notice Griz only has one Z.

I think recruiting matters, but it is completely overblown. Go look at Kansas State's recruiting sometime. They are always close to dead last in the Big 12 in terms of signed recruits and their associated stars, but they are always a top tier team under Snyder. Why is that? Excellent coaching.

Bohl does develop players, but he also recruits good players. It isn't like NDSU is a school where you sit on the bench and then all of a sudden play as a Senior. There are numerous players on this team and previous teams who were put in there as redshirt freshman and had an immediate impact in crucial positions.

I do think though that UM has a great chance of knocking off UW with Bohl coming in with a new system, but the quarterback leaving early will not be a really big factor, especially with UW having a stud QB sitting on the bench this year.

 

[NLGrizFan]

Good question NL and I also wonder if Bohl will be the next Joe Glenn. Wyoming is not an easy place to recruit to. I hope the Griz kick the living shiitake out of Wyoming next year. Not sure it will happen, but it is as good a time as any to play them.

The Joe Glenn comparisons are completely crazy.

Craig Bohl recruited and coached two extremely good teams. 2006-2007 they were ranked #1 for good portions of both years, finished 10-1 in both years, and had 3 FBS wins, but good not compete for a championship, but were obviously championship caliber. The 2007 team piss pounded Central Michigan 44-14. Central Michigan was pretty good that year as they won the MAC. The 2007 team then went on to beat a Big 10 team in Minnesota. Those teams still has 3 players in the NFL from the defensive unit, Joe Mays (starter), Craig Dahl (has been a starter) and Ramon Humber. He also recruited and coached this current team which is possibly on their way to a third national championship. During his tenure, NDSU is 7-3 against FBS programs, including 4 wins over teams from BCS conferences.

Craig Bohl has tons of FBS experience and was a defensive coordinator for a national championship team.

Joe Glenn won 2 D2 titles, then took over a Grizz program filled with players that were not his and won 1 national championship. Joe Glenn had 0 FBS experience before moving to Wyoming.


Craig Bohl clearly has a more proven track record than Joe Glenn did before heading to Wyoming. NDSU's teams in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2012, and 2013 could have easily competed in a conference like the Mountain West. This 2013 team I would argue would win it, especially considering they are the 23rd ranked Football team in all of college football in Jeff Sagarin's poll. The highest ranked Mountain West team is currently sitting at 45th. Point is, he has already built teams at NDSU which could compete in the Mountain West with less resources than he has at Wyoming. To think he can't do the same thing at Wyoming is foolish.

In his first year, I'll rephrase that, his first GamE as a COWBOY and after possibly losing his starting QB and a team with a losing record, I'm gonna say the Griz have a damn good chance at pulling off an upset. I'm not saying he is a bad coach but this isn't ND State and he's gonna have his hands full at UW. We all seen what happened in 2008-09.

In 2008 NDSU had a very good team, and lost over half of their players due to injuries, most of which happened to their best players. They finished 6-5 in a tough Missouri Valley Conference. Injuries happen.

2009 was a weird year. 6 defensive players got kicked off of the team. They switched to a 3-4 to try to compensate for the loss of the D-lineman on the team and it totally backfired. They finished pretty poor at 3-8. They were very competitive despite having that bad record.Their worst loss was a 17 point game to Iowa State (worst loss under Coach Bohl during his tenure). Besides that, they lost numerous games by 3-4 points.
http://www.gobison.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=46&path=football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2010 they bounce back and are a blown call away from the Semi-finals and beat Kansas.

Good coaches have bad seasons from time to time for numerous reasons, sometimes under circumstances they can not control, but a sign of a good coach is being able to come back. His worst loss in 11 years as NDSU's coach is 17 points to an FBS team from the Big 12. That is freaking remarkable if you ask me and is the sign of a good coach.

I do agree with everyone on here that the Griz have an excellent shot at beating Wyoming. All I am responding to is the people who are trying to say he won't be successful at Wyoming and that he is just another Joe Glenn.

Personally I don't see anything like Joe Glenn happening to Bohl. Two totally different deals there. But like was mentioned earlier, the surrounding area has gotta be very difficult to recruit in. All the surrounding states with big time teams and there sits Wyoming right in the middle of it all. I think Bohl will be ok at Wyoming but it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. Wyoming dont have the greatest reputation in football.
Side question here: Why are all the NDSU fans so focused on what happens to Craig Bohl?

 

[N D S U]

The Joe Glenn comparisons are completely crazy.

Craig Bohl recruited and coached two extremely good teams. 2006-2007 they were ranked #1 for good portions of both years, finished 10-1 in both years, and had 3 FBS wins, but good not compete for a championship, but were obviously championship caliber. The 2007 team piss pounded Central Michigan 44-14. Central Michigan was pretty good that year as they won the MAC. The 2007 team then went on to beat a Big 10 team in Minnesota. Those teams still has 3 players in the NFL from the defensive unit, Joe Mays (starter), Craig Dahl (has been a starter) and Ramon Humber. He also recruited and coached this current team which is possibly on their way to a third national championship. During his tenure, NDSU is 7-3 against FBS programs, including 4 wins over teams from BCS conferences.

Craig Bohl has tons of FBS experience and was a defensive coordinator for a national championship team.

Joe Glenn won 2 D2 titles, then took over a Grizz program filled with players that were not his and won 1 national championship. Joe Glenn had 0 FBS experience before moving to Wyoming.


Craig Bohl clearly has a more proven track record than Joe Glenn did before heading to Wyoming. NDSU's teams in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2012, and 2013 could have easily competed in a conference like the Mountain West. This 2013 team I would argue would win it, especially considering they are the 23rd ranked Football team in all of college football in Jeff Sagarin's poll. The highest ranked Mountain West team is currently sitting at 45th. Point is, he has already built teams at NDSU which could compete in the Mountain West with less resources than he has at Wyoming. To think he can't do the same thing at Wyoming is foolish.

In his first year, I'll rephrase that, his first GamE as a COWBOY and after possibly losing his starting QB and a team with a losing record, I'm gonna say the Griz have a damn good chance at pulling off an upset. I'm not saying he is a bad coach but this isn't ND State and he's gonna have his hands full at UW. We all seen what happened in 2008-09.

In 2008 NDSU had a very good team, and lost over half of their players due to injuries, most of which happened to their best players. They finished 6-5 in a tough Missouri Valley Conference. Injuries happen.

2009 was a weird year. 6 defensive players got kicked off of the team. They switched to a 3-4 to try to compensate for the loss of the D-lineman on the team and it totally backfired. They finished pretty poor at 3-8. They were very competitive despite having that bad record.Their worst loss was a 17 point game to Iowa State (worst loss under Coach Bohl during his tenure). Besides that, they lost numerous games by 3-4 points.
http://www.gobison.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=46&path=football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2010 they bounce back and are a blown call away from the Semi-finals and beat Kansas.

Good coaches have bad seasons from time to time for numerous reasons, sometimes under circumstances they can not control, but a sign of a good coach is being able to come back. His worst loss in 11 years as NDSU's coach is 17 points to an FBS team from the Big 12. That is freaking remarkable if you ask me and is the sign of a good coach.

I do agree with everyone on here that the Griz have an excellent shot at beating Wyoming. All I am responding to is the people who are trying to say he won't be successful at Wyoming and that he is just another Joe Glenn.

Personally I don't see anything like Joe Glenn happening to Bohl. Two totally different deals there. But like was mentioned earlier, the surrounding area has gotta be very difficult to recruit in. All the surrounding states with big time teams and there sits Wyoming right in the middle of it all. I think Bohl will be ok at Wyoming but it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. Wyoming dont have the greatest reputation in football.
Side question here: Why are all the NDSU fans so focused on what happens to Craig Bohl?

I agree that it will be tough, but it has been done before. Wyoming had successful teams under Joe Tiller in the 1990's. If memory serves me correct, they finished in the top 25 in his last year there. They were also pretty successful during most of the 60's and 80's. If you look at the following, really they have only been a complete toilet team this last decade. I could show you decades in which both UM and NDSU also weren't very good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wyoming_Cowboys_football_seasons" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When Bohl gets to Wyoming, he is going to immediately do what he did at NDSU. Lock down the best players in the state and give them an opportunity. Part of NDSU's problems in the late 90's and early 2000's is that they started focussing way too much in Texas instead of looking in their own backyard.

I also anticipate that he will continue to heavily recruit Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Nebraska like he did at NDSU. He will also get his nose into Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota and try to such the best players out of there. He will then move to neighboring metro cities in Denver and Salt Lake, and get the scraps like he did at NDSU, and coach them into great players.

They are focused on what happens to Craig Bohl because he spent 11 years as NDSU's head coach (second longest tenure in NDSU's history), won more games than an other NDSU coach, and won 2 National Championships at NDSU, with possibly a 3rd on the way. Given his success at NDSU, most fans with common sense are ulta-appreciative of what his done and are rooting for his success. You would be too if he had been at UM for the past 11 years and accomplished what he has.

 

[NLGrizFan]

In his first year, I'll rephrase that, his first GamE as a COWBOY and after possibly losing his starting QB and a team with a losing record, I'm gonna say the Griz have a damn good chance at pulling off an upset. I'm not saying he is a bad coach but this isn't ND State and he's gonna have his hands full at UW. We all seen what happened in 2008-09.

In 2008 NDSU had a very good team, and lost over half of their players due to injuries, most of which happened to their best players. They finished 6-5 in a tough Missouri Valley Conference. Injuries happen.

2009 was a weird year. 6 defensive players got kicked off of the team. They switched to a 3-4 to try to compensate for the loss of the D-lineman on the team and it totally backfired. They finished pretty poor at 3-8. They were very competitive despite having that bad record.Their worst loss was a 17 point game to Iowa State (worst loss under Coach Bohl during his tenure). Besides that, they lost numerous games by 3-4 points.
http://www.gobison.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=46&path=football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2010 they bounce back and are a blown call away from the Semi-finals and beat Kansas.

Good coaches have bad seasons from time to time for numerous reasons, sometimes under circumstances they can not control, but a sign of a good coach is being able to come back. His worst loss in 11 years as NDSU's coach is 17 points to an FBS team from the Big 12. That is freaking remarkable if you ask me and is the sign of a good coach.

I do agree with everyone on here that the Griz have an excellent shot at beating Wyoming. All I am responding to is the people who are trying to say he won't be successful at Wyoming and that he is just another Joe Glenn.

Personally I don't see anything like Joe Glenn happening to Bohl. Two totally different deals there. But like was mentioned earlier, the surrounding area has gotta be very difficult to recruit in. All the surrounding states with big time teams and there sits Wyoming right in the middle of it all. I think Bohl will be ok at Wyoming but it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. Wyoming dont have the greatest reputation in football.
Side question here: Why are all the NDSU fans so focused on what happens to Craig Bohl?

I agree that it will be tough, but it has been done before. Wyoming had successful teams under Joe Tiller in the 1990's. If memory serves me correct, they finished in the top 25 in his last year there. They were also pretty successful during most of the 60's and 80's. If you look at the following, really they have only been a complete toilet team this last decade. I could show you decades in which both UM and NDSU also weren't very good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wyoming_Cowboys_football_seasons" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When Bohl gets to Wyoming, he is going to immediately do what he did at NDSU. Lock down the best players in the state and give them an opportunity. Part of NDSU's problems in the late 90's and early 2000's is that they started focussing way too much in Texas instead of looking in their own backyard.

I also anticipate that he will continue to heavily recruit Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Nebraska like he did at NDSU. He will also get his nose into Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota and try to such the best players out of there. He will then move to neighboring metro cities in Denver and Salt Lake, and get the scraps like he did at NDSU, and coach them into great players.

They are focused on what happens to Craig Bohl because he spent 11 years as NDSU's head coach (second longest tenure in NDSU's history), won more games than an other NDSU coach, and won 2 National Championships at NDSU, with possibly a 3rd on the way. Given his success at NDSU, most fans with common sense are ulta-appreciative of what his done and are rooting for his success. You would be too if he had been at UM for the past 11 years and accomplished what he has.

Oh I totally agree, every program has its ups and downs. Montana had some rough times before my time (1950s and off years in the 60s) and of course 2012 was very far off of normal.
I do understand what the fan base is dealing with as far as Bohl leaving goes. Bobby Hauck was here for a while and went to UNLV. There is still a few that follow him and when his name comes up it gets my attention. Not sure if any fans followed him like NDSU fans follow Bohl. I was curious about what Wyoming fans might be saying about the Wyoming/Griz game next fall, went to Wyonation.com and there was quite a few Bisin fans over there talking about Bohl.

 

[N D S U]

In 2008 NDSU had a very good team, and lost over half of their players due to injuries, most of which happened to their best players. They finished 6-5 in a tough Missouri Valley Conference. Injuries happen.

2009 was a weird year. 6 defensive players got kicked off of the team. They switched to a 3-4 to try to compensate for the loss of the D-lineman on the team and it totally backfired. They finished pretty poor at 3-8. They were very competitive despite having that bad record.Their worst loss was a 17 point game to Iowa State (worst loss under Coach Bohl during his tenure). Besides that, they lost numerous games by 3-4 points.
http://www.gobison.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=46&path=football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2010 they bounce back and are a blown call away from the Semi-finals and beat Kansas.

Good coaches have bad seasons from time to time for numerous reasons, sometimes under circumstances they can not control, but a sign of a good coach is being able to come back. His worst loss in 11 years as NDSU's coach is 17 points to an FBS team from the Big 12. That is freaking remarkable if you ask me and is the sign of a good coach.

I do agree with everyone on here that the Griz have an excellent shot at beating Wyoming. All I am responding to is the people who are trying to say he won't be successful at Wyoming and that he is just another Joe Glenn.

Personally I don't see anything like Joe Glenn happening to Bohl. Two totally different deals there. But like was mentioned earlier, the surrounding area has gotta be very difficult to recruit in. All the surrounding states with big time teams and there sits Wyoming right in the middle of it all. I think Bohl will be ok at Wyoming but it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. Wyoming dont have the greatest reputation in football.
Side question here: Why are all the NDSU fans so focused on what happens to Craig Bohl?

I agree that it will be tough, but it has been done before. Wyoming had successful teams under Joe Tiller in the 1990's. If memory serves me correct, they finished in the top 25 in his last year there. They were also pretty successful during most of the 60's and 80's. If you look at the following, really they have only been a complete toilet team this last decade. I could show you decades in which both UM and NDSU also weren't very good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wyoming_Cowboys_football_seasons" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When Bohl gets to Wyoming, he is going to immediately do what he did at NDSU. Lock down the best players in the state and give them an opportunity. Part of NDSU's problems in the late 90's and early 2000's is that they started focussing way too much in Texas instead of looking in their own backyard.

I also anticipate that he will continue to heavily recruit Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Nebraska like he did at NDSU. He will also get his nose into Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota and try to such the best players out of there. He will then move to neighboring metro cities in Denver and Salt Lake, and get the scraps like he did at NDSU, and coach them into great players.

They are focused on what happens to Craig Bohl because he spent 11 years as NDSU's head coach (second longest tenure in NDSU's history), won more games than an other NDSU coach, and won 2 National Championships at NDSU, with possibly a 3rd on the way. Given his success at NDSU, most fans with common sense are ulta-appreciative of what his done and are rooting for his success. You would be too if he had been at UM for the past 11 years and accomplished what he has.

Oh I totally agree, every program has its ups and downs. Montana had some rough times before my time (1950s and off years in the 60s) and of course 2012 was very far off of normal.
I do understand what the fan base is dealing with as far as Bohl leaving goes. Bobby Hauck was here for a while and went to UNLV. There is still a few that follow him and when his name comes up it gets my attention. Not sure if any fans followed him like NDSU fans follow Bohl. I was curious about what Wyoming fans might be saying about the Wyoming/Griz game next fall, went to Wyonation.com and there was quite a few Bisin fans over there talking about Bohl.

Most of those fans on Wyonation are clueless and don't give the Griz a chance. I don't think they realize that the talent gap between 18 starters at the top tier FCS schools and lower tier non-BCS FBS schools is not too far off.

Myself and a couple of buddies are planning a trip to Laramie for the game next year. It should be very competitive. My heart is pulling both ways; for Bohl because I want him to succeed, but I also can't not go for an FCS school.

I think it will be a 1 score game. I give the edge to Wyoming though because Bohl and his staff are great coaches and the game is in Laramie.

Just curious but what is Bobby's brother up to these days? I followed him a bit in the NFL when he was with my team.

 

[cclarkblues]

In his first year, I'll rephrase that, his first GamE as a COWBOY and after possibly losing his starting QB and a team with a losing record, I'm gonna say the Griz have a damn good chance at pulling off an upset. I'm not saying he is a bad coach but this isn't ND State and he's gonna have his hands full at UW. We all seen what happened in 2008-09.

In 2008 NDSU had a very good team, and lost over half of their players due to injuries, most of which happened to their best players. They finished 6-5 in a tough Missouri Valley Conference. Injuries happen.

2009 was a weird year. 6 defensive players got kicked off of the team. They switched to a 3-4 to try to compensate for the loss of the D-lineman on the team and it totally backfired. They finished pretty poor at 3-8. They were very competitive despite having that bad record.Their worst loss was a 17 point game to Iowa State (worst loss under Coach Bohl during his tenure). Besides that, they lost numerous games by 3-4 points.
http://www.gobison.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=46&path=football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2010 they bounce back and are a blown call away from the Semi-finals and beat Kansas.

Good coaches have bad seasons from time to time for numerous reasons, sometimes under circumstances they can not control, but a sign of a good coach is being able to come back. His worst loss in 11 years as NDSU's coach is 17 points to an FBS team from the Big 12. That is freaking remarkable if you ask me and is the sign of a good coach.

I do agree with everyone on here that the Griz have an excellent shot at beating Wyoming. All I am responding to is the people who are trying to say he won't be successful at Wyoming and that he is just another Joe Glenn.

Personally I don't see anything like Joe Glenn happening to Bohl. Two totally different deals there. But like was mentioned earlier, the surrounding area has gotta be very difficult to recruit in. All the surrounding states with big time teams and there sits Wyoming right in the middle of it all. I think Bohl will be ok at Wyoming but it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. Wyoming dont have the greatest reputation in football.
Side question here: Why are all the NDSU fans so focused on what happens to Craig Bohl?

I agree that it will be tough, but it has been done before. Wyoming had successful teams under Joe Tiller in the 1990's. If memory serves me correct, they finished in the top 25 in his last year there. They were also pretty successful during most of the 60's and 80's. If you look at the following, really they have only been a complete toilet team this last decade. I could show you decades in which both UM and NDSU also weren't very good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wyoming_Cowboys_football_seasons" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When Bohl gets to Wyoming, he is going to immediately do what he did at NDSU. Lock down the best players in the state and give them an opportunity. Part of NDSU's problems in the late 90's and early 2000's is that they started focussing way too much in Texas instead of looking in their own backyard.

I also anticipate that he will continue to heavily recruit Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Nebraska like he did at NDSU. He will also get his nose into Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota and try to such the best players out of there. He will then move to neighboring metro cities in Denver and Salt Lake, and get the scraps like he did at NDSU, and coach them into great players.

They are focused on what happens to Craig Bohl because he spent 11 years as NDSU's head coach (second longest tenure in NDSU's history), won more games than an other NDSU coach, and won 2 National Championships at NDSU, with possibly a 3rd on the way. Given his success at NDSU, most fans with common sense are ulta-appreciative of what his done and are rooting for his success. You would be too if he had been at UM for the past 11 years and accomplished what he has.

He would have had to work for minimum wage...

 

[NLGrizFan]

Personally I don't see anything like Joe Glenn happening to Bohl. Two totally different deals there. But like was mentioned earlier, the surrounding area has gotta be very difficult to recruit in. All the surrounding states with big time teams and there sits Wyoming right in the middle of it all. I think Bohl will be ok at Wyoming but it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. Wyoming dont have the greatest reputation in football.
Side question here: Why are all the NDSU fans so focused on what happens to Craig Bohl?

I agree that it will be tough, but it has been done before. Wyoming had successful teams under Joe Tiller in the 1990's. If memory serves me correct, they finished in the top 25 in his last year there. They were also pretty successful during most of the 60's and 80's. If you look at the following, really they have only been a complete toilet team this last decade. I could show you decades in which both UM and NDSU also weren't very good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wyoming_Cowboys_football_seasons" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When Bohl gets to Wyoming, he is going to immediately do what he did at NDSU. Lock down the best players in the state and give them an opportunity. Part of NDSU's problems in the late 90's and early 2000's is that they started focussing way too much in Texas instead of looking in their own backyard.

I also anticipate that he will continue to heavily recruit Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Nebraska like he did at NDSU. He will also get his nose into Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota and try to such the best players out of there. He will then move to neighboring metro cities in Denver and Salt Lake, and get the scraps like he did at NDSU, and coach them into great players.

They are focused on what happens to Craig Bohl because he spent 11 years as NDSU's head coach (second longest tenure in NDSU's history), won more games than an other NDSU coach, and won 2 National Championships at NDSU, with possibly a 3rd on the way. Given his success at NDSU, most fans with common sense are ulta-appreciative of what his done and are rooting for his success. You would be too if he had been at UM for the past 11 years and accomplished what he has.

Oh I totally agree, every program has its ups and downs. Montana had some rough times before my time (1950s and off years in the 60s) and of course 2012 was very far off of normal.
I do understand what the fan base is dealing with as far as Bohl leaving goes. Bobby Hauck was here for a while and went to UNLV. There is still a few that follow him and when his name comes up it gets my attention. Not sure if any fans followed him like NDSU fans follow Bohl. I was curious about what Wyoming fans might be saying about the Wyoming/Griz game next fall, went to Wyonation.com and there was quite a few Bisin fans over there talking about Bohl.

Most of those fans on Wyonation are clueless and don't give the Griz a chance. I don't think they realize that the talent gap between 18 starters at the top tier FCS schools and lower tier non-BCS FBS schools is not too far off.

Myself and a couple of buddies are planning a trip to Laramie for the game next year. It should be very competitive. My heart is pulling both ways; for Bohl because I want him to succeed, but I also can't not go for an FCS school.

I think it will be a 1 score game. I give the edge to Wyoming though because Bohl and his staff are great coaches and the game is in Laramie.

Just curious but what is Bobby's brother up to these days? I followed him a bit in the NFL when he was with my team.

I'm tryin to decide on witch game I want to go to. UW or NDSU...?? Can't do them both since its my busy time of the year but I hear the Fargo Dome is loud and pretty cool. I'm not a fan of Wyoming so...
Last I remember hearing was that Bobby hired his brother to the coaching staff but I'm not sure what position or any details.

 

[N D S U]

NLGrizFan,

Fargo Dome is a pretty cool place to watch a game. As a NDSU fan, I would still rank Washington Grizzly and The Rock at App State as better due to being outside and in the mountains, but I would also tell you that the FargoDome/NDSU have a better tailgating scene.

The drive from Missoula to Fargo is among the worst I have ever done. If you are going to make the trek, I would head to Whitefish and catch the train.

 

[NLGrizFan]

NLGrizFan,

Fargo Dome is a pretty cool place to watch a game. As a NDSU fan, I would still rank Washington Grizzly and The Rock at App State as better due to being outside and in the mountains, but I would also tell you that the FargoDome/NDSU have a better tailgating scene.

The drive from Missoula to Fargo is among the worst I have ever done. If you are going to make the trek, I would head to Whitefish and catch the train.

I live in Billings and will probably head north and catch the Amtrak outta Havre. But if I happen to be in Bigfork when we decide to go I will catch the train outta Whitefish. I rode from Minot to Whitefish a while back, and that was a pretty cool ride! Met quite a few cool people and we had quite a few drinks. Good times!!

 

[fanofzoo]

Why would he go to Wy.?
Isn't that pretty much a graveyard. Surely after what he has done could have gotten better offers.

 

[NLGrizFan]

Why would he go to Wy.?
Isn't that pretty much a graveyard. Surely after what he has done could have gotten better offers.

I've been wondering that myself since the news broke...