Serving up crow!

[Griznationalist]

Hate to say “told you so,” but, well …

by robomomo on Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:11 pm
Assuming Griz beat Utah Valley and lose to Washington they will be 7-6 heading into conference. Looks like another Tinkle speacial. Fighting for .500. Yeah!

by scottsdalegriz on Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:45 pm
One thing that needs to be looked at is how this squad even got to six wins. One was not even against a D-1 team so discount that one. If you look at the rest of the five wins only one team has a winning record and that is North Dakota and they are still playing a lot of their old DII regional rivals (Bemidji State, UM-Crookston). Even if you throw UND in the mix the teams that we have beaten have a combined record of 25-37. If you take out the fact that UND is 7-5 they have beaten only one D1 team in UMKC so that win-loss record looks even worse. I am not one of these people who expect the griz to win every game however saying that we are in great shape is a bit far fetched.

by GrizLA on Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:28 am
Well, I guess there is much to be said for such optimism. I generally feel that way about UM in all fields. However, I made 2 mistakes this year and last...I actuall drove up for the Santa Barbaras game last year and was truly embarrassed by the level of play of Montana against a not very good team. This year I foolishly drove down to Riverside...again, in a near empty gym, it was a depressing experience...Sorry, but Griz basketball is not very good...not even close....I hope time proves me wrong....but I have seen for myself just how badly this team plays.....and I use the world "TEAM"' because I am not sure what else describes the current group.....so sue me...

by Griznationalist on Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:51 pm
I’m no expert, but I think we’re in great shape and heading the right direction. Interestingly, the human aging process causes people to remember the past as more glorious than it was. We forgave Heathcoat a losing season and two barely-.500 seasons. Brandenburg succeeded Heathcoat with a 6-20 season before leaving after two seasons as UM head coach. Even Montgomery had his share of sub-20-win seasons, including a 14-13 season and a 17-win season during which we hailed him the greatest thing since sliced bread. Heck, I remember, during the glorious years when Krystko played, we never once won the conference title, we thought an NIT bid was a huge deal, yet basketball in Missoula was king. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the present is superior to the past. I'm just saying, when I try to stay objective, I have to appreciate what we've got going for us now and remember that today, now, "these are the good old days," too. Take a look at the numbers below for a dozen seasons worth of perspective. We’re in great shape with excellent leadership right now. If you can't get excited about Grizzly basketball, you're missing something.
Taylor:
16-14 (1997-98)
Holst:
13-14 (1998-99)
17-11 (1999-00)
11-16 (2000-01)
16-15 (2001-02)
Kennedy:
13-17 (2002-03)
10-18 (2003-04)
Krystkowiak:
18-13 (2004-05)
24-7 (2005-06)
Tinkle:
17-15 (2006-07)
14-16 (2007-08)
6-8 (so far in 2008-09, including three losses to Duke, University of Washington, and a team that beat Gonzaga). Update as of 2-21-09: 17-10 / 11-4

 

[BelierPeaux]

I don't know, what do you expect? At the time those comments were written the direction of the program didn't look so hot. I don't blame them, I was frustrated, too. I am glad the Griz have had the resurgance this year thanks in large part to AJ. It certainly helps ease any uneasy feelings about Tinkle getting the contract extension that he did last year.

 

[robomomo]

I don't know, what do you expect? At the time those comments were written the direction of the program didn't look so hot. I don't blame them, I was frustrated, too. I am glad the Griz have had the resurgance this year thanks in large part to AJ. It certainly helps ease any uneasy feelings about Tinkle getting the contract extension that he did last year.

Agree, and not to mention the last 2 years were horribly depressing. Without AJ blowing up the way he did and hasquet banging down low we would have have been at best a .500 team which is why he should be MVP.

 

[Griznationalist]

Glad you've seen the light. One game away from 18-10 (11-4). Like your crow served well done?

 

[robomomo]

Glad you've seen the light. One game away from 18-10 (11-4). Like your crow served well done?

I will eat it raw if we make the dance.

 

[m616s6e]

If Brandenberg had a 6-20 season, it would been the season he had to forfeit so many games due to an ineligible player. It was also a season he had two first round NBA draft picks on the team at one time. Don't run down Brandy's team, please.

 

[Griznationalist]

If Brandenberg had a 6-20 season, it would been the season he had to forfeit so many games due to an ineligible player. It was also a season he had two first round NBA draft picks on the team at one time. Don't run down Brandy's team, please.

Not running down Brandy's team at all. Fact is, he was 6-20 because one of those first-rounders (Lee Johnson) was ineligible due to academic reasons. If Johnson would have been "legal," Brandy's team would have had about the same record as this year's Griz (without the 11-game forfeiture, they would have gone 17-9). I guess that makes me all the more proud of this year's Griz.