Scholarship vs Non-Scholarship Schools

[HookedonGriz]

I’ve seen some talk recently (mostly due to the fact we just played Drake) that a Pioneer team is a super weak team because they come from a non scholarship league. Many automatically assume this makes them a weak opponent or that these kids get no aid to attend school. That is simply not true.

These schools are getting more and more creative with financial aid packages for their student athletes to stay competitive. They find grants, academic aid, and other financial aid vehicles for these students. Make no mistake, these kids get PLENTY of financial aid to attend that school and play football....it’s just not called an athletic scholarship....so the term “non scholarship” school or team is a bit misleading

 

[mtgrizfankb]

Hero sports said this: SUM IT UP: San Diego has dominated the PFL the last few seasons, winning the title outright the last two and sharing the championship with Dayton in 2015. If there is going to be a challenger to the Toreros, it's going to be Drake.

San Diego beat big sky schools in the FCS playoffs the last 2 years. NAU and Cal Poly. Drake was a good and veteran football team. They would play with most the big sky

 

[PlayerRep]

They are non-athletic scholarship schools.

In the Ivies, also non-athletic scholarship, the financial aid packages are need-based and very good. So, if your parents make less than $60,000 or so and normal assets (it depends on the school), you get essentially a full-ride with no parent contribution supposedly. The way they calculate it doesn't mean that you and your family don't have to pony up quite a few thousands. Up towards $150,000 of income, and normal assets, parents contribution ranges from 0 to 10% of total cost.

Kids whose families make more than that still get some need-based scholarship, but the family portion gets higher and higher. At some point of income, there is no financial aid at all.

In the Ivies, I would guess that the kids are either from poorer families and lower middle class, or rich families. Not as many from families in the middle of those (not I'm not saying middle class; I'm saying between those 2 ends). While my families would stretch to send their kids to college, paying $10,000 - $40,000 per year, it's tougher to do that if the kid has a full athletic scholarship somewhere. Plus, the AI, or Academic Index, of the Ivies is very limiting as to who can be accepted and get on the recruit list to play football.

Harvard numbers:

Approximately 70 percent of our students receive some form of aid, and about 60 percent receive need–based scholarships and pay an average of $12,000 per year. Twenty percent of parents pay nothing. No loans required.

These numbers are garbled. The first number is 17/18 year and the second number is the 18'19 year. Totals go up to about $80,000 for Harvard's calculated cost.

2018-2019
2017-2018
Tuition
$46,340
$44,990
Fees
$4,080
$3,959
Room
$10,609
$10,300
Board
$6,551
$6,360
Subtotal - billed costs
$67,580
$65,609
Estimated personal expenses
(including $800-$1,200 for books)
$4,070
$3,991
Estimated travel costs
$0-$5,000
$0-$4,000
Total billed and unbilled costs
$71,650-$76,650
$69,600-$73,600
* In addition, health insurance is required at a cost of $3,364 (for 2018-19) unless you are covered under your family’s health plan.

 

[ordigger]

Announcers talked about this exact thing during the game last week.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Announcers talked about this exact thing during the game last week.

I have Cats buddies who were shooting me shit about the Griz playing “non scholarship” Drake and how the Griz should have won by 65 pts. When I told them the majority of those kids have school paid for and we’re recruited specifically for football they thought was fulll of it. They researched and have since apologized. They literally had no idea so thought it may be worth sharing here