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Rushing Stats

84GRIZ

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This surprised me. Was looking at some stats over the weekend and this floored me.

Last year (2016) with a very immobile QB and a supposedly inferior offensive line the Griz averaged 4.4 yards per rush with Nguyen averaging 4.6 yards per attempt and Calhoun averaging 7.2 yards per attempt.

This year (2017) with 4 seniors on the Oline and all this talk of DOLA and way more mobile QB's we averaged 3.7 yards per carry with Calhoun dropping to 4.3 yards per carry and Lee at 4.0 yards per carry.

Could it be that maybe the other defensive coordinators have figured out that we basically run the same running play 80% of the time????
 
84GRIZ said:
This surprised me. Was looking at some stats over the weekend and this floored me.

Last year (2016) with a very immobile QB and a supposedly inferior offensive line the Griz averaged 4.4 yards per rush with Nguyen averaging 4.6 yards per attempt and Calhoun averaging 7.2 yards per attempt.

This year (2017) with 4 seniors on the Oline and all this talk of DOLA and way more mobile QB's we averaged 3.7 yards per carry with Calhoun dropping to 4.3 yards per carry and Lee at 4.0 yards per carry.

Could it be that maybe the other defensive coordinators have figured out that we basically run the same running play 80% of the time????
It's that other play that we run 20% of the time that is supposed to fool them.
 
Yup. Off tackle zone read or a run right into the guards ass and falling down. I would love some counters or some pulling linemen. FFS, any time we run the ball you know exactly where it goes.
 
84GRIZ said:
This surprised me. Was looking at some stats over the weekend and this floored me.

Last year (2016) with a very immobile QB and a supposedly inferior offensive line the Griz averaged 4.4 yards per rush with Nguyen averaging 4.6 yards per attempt and Calhoun averaging 7.2 yards per attempt.

This year (2017) with 4 seniors on the Oline and all this talk of DOLA and way more mobile QB's we averaged 3.7 yards per carry with Calhoun dropping to 4.3 yards per carry and Lee at 4.0 yards per carry.

Could it be that maybe the other defensive coordinators have figured out that we basically run the same running play 80% of the time????

Testament to the o-line & Calhoun/Lee that they did that well given it was the same play to one side or the other 90% of the time. Half of Stitts running game is short passes in the form of screens & quick hitches, and that might be Ok if they could somehow block them effectively. 3.7 yards was second worst in the conference.

Am not sure if it’s just me, but it seemed they went away from throwing to the backs toward the end of the season, three players amounted to 35 catches all season, less than 200 yards total. Kind of a waste of a skill with the ball in your hands if you’re not willing use them for anything other than blocking the blitzer who’s coming on most plays. Get your back the pass in the area where the blitz is coming from and you might have a few extra yards and a few less blitzers.

Not being able to run, to get a couple of yards when you need it consistently, gets you beat more often as not.
 
bgbigdog said:
84GRIZ said:
This surprised me. Was looking at some stats over the weekend and this floored me.

Last year (2016) with a very immobile QB and a supposedly inferior offensive line the Griz averaged 4.4 yards per rush with Nguyen averaging 4.6 yards per attempt and Calhoun averaging 7.2 yards per attempt.

This year (2017) with 4 seniors on the Oline and all this talk of DOLA and way more mobile QB's we averaged 3.7 yards per carry with Calhoun dropping to 4.3 yards per carry and Lee at 4.0 yards per carry.

Could it be that maybe the other defensive coordinators have figured out that we basically run the same running play 80% of the time????

Testament to the o-line & Calhoun/Lee that they did that well given it was the same play to one side or the other 90% of the time. Half of Stitts running game is short passes in the form of screens & quick hitches, and that might be Ok if they could somehow block them effectively. 3.7 yards was second worst in the conference.

Am not sure if it’s just me, but it seemed they went away from throwing to the backs toward the end of the season, three players amounted to 35 catches all season, less than 200 yards total. Kind of a waste of a skill with the ball in your hands if you’re not willing use them for anything other than blocking the blitzer who’s coming on most plays. Get your back the pass in the area where the blitz is coming from and you might have a few extra yards and a few less blitzers.

Not being able to run, to get a couple of yards when you need it consistently, gets you beat more often as not.

3.7 each down is still a first down. I think the bolded statement is the key here. When they KNOW you're going to run, can you get the 3.7 yards?
 
AZDoc said:
bgbigdog said:
84GRIZ said:
This surprised me. Was looking at some stats over the weekend and this floored me.

Last year (2016) with a very immobile QB and a supposedly inferior offensive line the Griz averaged 4.4 yards per rush with Nguyen averaging 4.6 yards per attempt and Calhoun averaging 7.2 yards per attempt.

This year (2017) with 4 seniors on the Oline and all this talk of DOLA and way more mobile QB's we averaged 3.7 yards per carry with Calhoun dropping to 4.3 yards per carry and Lee at 4.0 yards per carry.

Could it be that maybe the other defensive coordinators have figured out that we basically run the same running play 80% of the time????

Testament to the o-line & Calhoun/Lee that they did that well given it was the same play to one side or the other 90% of the time. Half of Stitts running game is short passes in the form of screens & quick hitches, and that might be Ok if they could somehow block them effectively. 3.7 yards was second worst in the conference.

Am not sure if it’s just me, but it seemed they went away from throwing to the backs toward the end of the season, three players amounted to 35 catches all season, less than 200 yards total. Kind of a waste of a skill with the ball in your hands if you’re not willing use them for anything other than blocking the blitzer who’s coming on most plays. Get your back the pass in the area where the blitz is coming from and you might have a few extra yards and a few less blitzers.

Not being able to run, to get a couple of yards when you need it consistently, gets you beat more often as not.

3.7 each down is still a first down. I think the bolded statement is the key here. When they KNOW you're going to run, can you get the 3.7 yards?
Murray can; sometimes times 10.
 
kemajic said:
AZDoc said:
bgbigdog said:
84GRIZ said:
This surprised me. Was looking at some stats over the weekend and this floored me.

Last year (2016) with a very immobile QB and a supposedly inferior offensive line the Griz averaged 4.4 yards per rush with Nguyen averaging 4.6 yards per attempt and Calhoun averaging 7.2 yards per attempt.

This year (2017) with 4 seniors on the Oline and all this talk of DOLA and way more mobile QB's we averaged 3.7 yards per carry with Calhoun dropping to 4.3 yards per carry and Lee at 4.0 yards per carry.

Could it be that maybe the other defensive coordinators have figured out that we basically run the same running play 80% of the time????

Testament to the o-line & Calhoun/Lee that they did that well given it was the same play to one side or the other 90% of the time. Half of Stitts running game is short passes in the form of screens & quick hitches, and that might be Ok if they could somehow block them effectively. 3.7 yards was second worst in the conference.

Am not sure if it’s just me, but it seemed they went away from throwing to the backs toward the end of the season, three players amounted to 35 catches all season, less than 200 yards total. Kind of a waste of a skill with the ball in your hands if you’re not willing use them for anything other than blocking the blitzer who’s coming on most plays. Get your back the pass in the area where the blitz is coming from and you might have a few extra yards and a few less blitzers.

Not being able to run, to get a couple of yards when you need it consistently, gets you beat more often as not.

3.7 each down is still a first down. I think the bolded statement is the key here. When they KNOW you're going to run, can you get the 3.7 yards?
Murray can; sometimes times 10.

and 10 times a game!
 
PDXGrizzly said:
Yup. Off tackle zone read or a run right into the guards ass and falling down. I would love some counters or some pulling linemen. FFS, any time we run the ball you know exactly where it goes.

Look at Montana's first rushing TD against the Cats. The guard pulled to create the hole for a TD.
 
IdahoGrizFan said:
PDXGrizzly said:
Yup. Off tackle zone read or a run right into the guards ass and falling down. I would love some counters or some pulling linemen. FFS, any time we run the ball you know exactly where it goes.

Look at Montana's first rushing TD against the Cats. The guard pulled to create the hole for a TD.

Yep, We pulled and trapped more this year than I recall us doing last year. I could be wrong, but it seemed that way to me.
 
To improve the running attack, you need to have a Blocking Tight End/H Back, and a bone crushing Fullback leading Calhoun style Running Back. Having more agile linemen would help. This will keep the defense honest. It appears that the defensive coordinators have a real good tendency scouting report on the Griz.
 
I am not pleased with our running game and still the Griz began pulling linemen in the running game early this season and continued throughout the year. Calhoun' touchdown run is just one example. I understand the philosophy and it is sound. However, we need 2-3 FU plays that we run regardless of the front and stunts/blitzes.
 
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