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Before you bash another alleged victim, just don't, and before you bash another alleged rapist, also just don't. We don't know what happened or who's right, but let's not act like jerks. And yea I realize that is pretty naive on the internet, but c'mon this is a Griz football forum we are better than the internet.
 
Zootown Rox said:
Before you bash another alleged victim, just don't, and before you bash another alleged rapist, also just don't. We don't know what happened or who's right, but let's not act like jerks. And yea I realize that is pretty naive on the internet, but c'mon this is a Griz football forum we are better than the internet.
If only
 
bisonboone11 said:
Zootown Rox said:
WaGriz4life said:
tampa_griz said:
But this thread is about a specific case. It's probably a stretch to think that the assailant was threatening the alleged victim into keeping quiet. He let her use her cell phone to send text messages as she was giving him a ride home.

But I agree that it's probably normal for acquaintance-rape victims to not immediately contact law enforcement after the attack.
I agree with that. But I don't agree that it's very common for rape victims not to fight of their attacker or call for help.

Based on what? Do you have years of experience dealing with rape victims? Please, leave it at 'I have a hard time believing that, but I guess you are right' and stick to talking about football.
I believe he said that his mother has years of experience dealing with rape victims.

I believe that is ilovethecats who has a mother that deals with this.
 
ilovethecats said:
:lol:

as always, this thread is turning out to be pretty entertaining.

Why don't you use capitalization? Not sure why but dang it bothers me. :x
 
Still reading this through....but if anyone had any doubt about why the DOS Couture needed to retire its in here. Hopefully someone just goes and kicks his.......dandelions in his yard. What a tool.
 
tampa_griz said:
jcu27 said:
What starting QB needs to rape his x? Plus yeah don't you think she would of yelled stop or screamed? Or called the cops right away and he would of been arrested that night? Why wouldn't UM take in JJ's evidence/character witnesses? If someone was raped in a place with other people there I'm sure that person who was informed would of atleast called the cops. Why wouldn't she? Or helped in any sort of way. Sounds like a complete bullshit story out of jealousy. She may have thought she was raped after it was done and she wanted to be in a relationship again, but he didn't. Jealous xs will do a lot of dumb shit.

You are not a real person. You just aren't.


I don't want to believe he just wrote that....but he did.
 
Grizbacker1 said:
There is far more to this story than what was in the article, as usual. Pay special attention to the portion where the judge comments on the proceeding. Paoli was the one who requested a dismissal. The legal portion of this is far from over kids.


There is far more to this story. Everyone should skip the Missoulian article and plow through the documents at least the first 80 pages. The way the University of Montana handled this case is disgraceful. I hope the Missoulian is thorough enough in its reporting to unpack this issue. The article it published today doesn't even scratch the surface.
 
BDizzle said:
ilovethecats said:
:lol:

as always, this thread is turning out to be pretty entertaining.

Why don't you use capitalization? Not sure why but dang it bothers me. :x

ha. never chose to do it intentionally. but i think it stemmed from college and beyond when I went back to take more classes. i had to write so many papers that had to be so formal so i think when i was introduced to the life of a message board, i swore away with most puntuation and capitalization. when i went back it was online classes so almost every interaction and assignment was written. i was so annoyed with it that again i decided to take shortcuts on the boards!

AT LEAST I DON'T TYPE EVERYTHING LIKE THIS..... :thumb:
 
PTGrizzly said:
tampa_griz said:
jcu27 said:
What starting QB needs to rape his x? Plus yeah don't you think she would of yelled stop or screamed? Or called the cops right away and he would of been arrested that night? Why wouldn't UM take in JJ's evidence/character witnesses? If someone was raped in a place with other people there I'm sure that person who was informed would of atleast called the cops. Why wouldn't she? Or helped in any sort of way. Sounds like a complete bullshit story out of jealousy. She may have thought she was raped after it was done and she wanted to be in a relationship again, but he didn't. Jealous xs will do a lot of dumb shit.

You are not a real person. You just aren't.


I don't want to believe he just wrote that....but he did.
Why? Because I question what a person/people did or did not do? You do realize this stuff happens all over the world? You do realize the world isn't all roses and candies?
 
ilovethecats said:
BDizzle said:
ilovethecats said:
:lol:

as always, this thread is turning out to be pretty entertaining.

Why don't you use capitalization? Not sure why but dang it bothers me. :x

ha. never chose to do it intentionally. but i think it stemmed from college and beyond when I went back to take more classes. i had to write so many papers that had to be so formal so i think when i was introduced to the life of a message board, i swore away with most puntuation and capitalization. when i went back it was online classes so almost every interaction and assignment was written. i was so annoyed with it that again i decided to take shortcuts on the boards!

AT LEAST I DON'T TYPE EVERYTHING LIKE THIS..... :thumb:

Always the optimist. I agree with the all caps. Can't stand it.
 
jcu27 said:
PTGrizzly said:
tampa_griz said:
jcu27 said:
What starting QB needs to rape his x? Plus yeah don't you think she would of yelled stop or screamed? Or called the cops right away and he would of been arrested that night? Why wouldn't UM take in JJ's evidence/character witnesses? If someone was raped in a place with other people there I'm sure that person who was informed would of atleast called the cops. Why wouldn't she? Or helped in any sort of way. Sounds like a complete bullshit story out of jealousy. She may have thought she was raped after it was done and she wanted to be in a relationship again, but he didn't. Jealous xs will do a lot of dumb shit.

You are not a real person. You just aren't.


I don't want to believe he just wrote that....but he did.
Why? Because I question what a person/people did or did not do? You do realize this stuff happens all over the world? You do realize the world isn't all roses and candies?

i do. and in that world i understand that guys rape girls. even football players have raped girls. and i know that not all rape victims scream or run to the cops. and i know that some girls cry rape when they weren't in fact raped. that's why it would be silly to make claims that sh'e just a jealous ex making up a story.......when none of us have any idea. :idea:
 
And yes I realize rape does too. I just have a hard time believing a starting qb raped someone. Especially an ex. That drove him to her place then drove him home. And also didn't call the cops asap. Neither did her friend. I know if my friend said they were being raped I'd call the cops right then. Even if they told me not to. There's just something not right about all of this.
 
jcu27 said:
And yes I realize rape does too. I just have a hard time believing a starting qb raped someone. Especially an ex. That drove him to her place then drove him home. And also didn't call the cops asap. Neither did her friend. I know if my friend said they were being raped I'd call the cops right then. Even if they told me not to. There's just something not right about all of this.
When you grow up someday, I would advise against reading what you wrote back in the day.
 
if the starting quarterback for the world champion nfl steelers will rape someone....so will the starting quarterback for the fcs montana grizzlies.....

the fact that you said this shows that you have a lot to learn yet....
 
Missoula County Attorney Fred Van Valkenburg pledged Wednesday to continue refusing all requests for information from the U.S. Department of Justice as it investigates how his office prosecutes reports of sexual assault.

To someone that has not followed this, it smells of cover up.

With all thats going in the valley they might want to change the name from Missoula to North Lolo.
 
MTOutsider said:
Missoula County Attorney Fred Van Valkenburg pledged Wednesday to continue refusing all requests for information from the U.S. Department of Justice as it investigates how his office prosecutes reports of sexual assault.

To someone that has not followed this, it smells of cover up.

With all thats going in the valley they might want to change the name from Missoula to North Lolo.

Im not a fan of Fred Van Valkenburg but i support him for standing his ground against the Federal Gov't. The Federal Gov't is slowly taking away our state rights. Telling us what we can and cant do.. Eff that!
 
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