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BelierPeaux
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And why the hell haven't they given Kessman a look yet???
Lotsa love
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loyalgriz said:
no
hoopmaster111
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ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
John Elway was pretty mobile and did win a Super Bowl. Does he count? Just curious, has there ever been a black NFL QB that you liked? Marlin Briscoe, James Harris, Warren Moon, Steve McNair, Doug Williams....they all suck too according to your expert opinion, right? Nevermind you probably don't know who half of those names are and I don't care what your answer is. Maybe that explains the real reason you don't like Kemp....
Kemp isn't getting any live throwing reps (7 on 7 or 11 on 11)in practice because he is a freshman and Selle and Roper are getting all the throwin reps. That is a fact and rightly so since Roper and Selle are the rotating QBs. You are full of it when you say you've seen Kemp overthrow, then underthrow in practice. He is not throwin the rock in 7 on 7 or 11 on 11 in practice period (live reps).
Yes I know Kemp personally and have seen him play the QB position for years...much longer than you. Kemp has a big future ahead of him at Montana at QB. If believing that makes me biased, so be it. That being said again unlike you I believe Selle is doing a great job right now and Roper isn't hurting the team either. The Griz are 8-0 and getting better every week. And that credit goes to Bobby Hauck and his coaching staff.
You don't have to tell me where your credentials come from Alpha...you posts demonstrate time and time again that your credentials come straight outta your asssss......
kemajic said:
Ok, I am not a QB coach, just happen to be the father of a QB and as such have been to a bunch of qb clinics and been around some great QB coaches (Dave Miller-Lakes High School-Father of Drew Miller) and listened. I just happened to know about the hip thing cause my son does it every once in a while. I know that when my sons ball flutters it is usually because he is not turning his wrist all the way over, which makes the fingers roll down the laces and causes the nice spiral. If a qb is trying to muscle the ball down the field they will sometimes grip the ball a little tight and that can also cause the flutter which relates directly to the arm strength of the qb, because when the reciever gets to or past the limit of the qb's range, sometimes said qb will try to muscle the ball to get enough on it to get it downfield. (Think John Edwards)
ALPHAGRIZ1
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hoopmaster111 said:
You just lost all credibility with your BS post.
Nice try though.
oGriz
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1. The throw on-the-run is a skill that has to be developed through much practice and repetition.
While running, the passer must twist his torso perpendicular to the target in a quick, cocking motion. Many passers do not get their shoulders far enough around – while still running – especially when sprinting out in the opposite direction of their passing arm.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The throwing motion and subsequent release must immediately follow the cocking motion. This uses the momentum of the motion to assist the throw, like loading and releasing a spring. Many times QBs hesitate, creating two distinct motions, back and forth, which depletes the momentum and causes the pass to sail or flutter.
When running in the same direction of the receiver, the passer does not have to “lead” the receiver. A lot of quarterbacks don’t realize this. It’s simple physics. The ball is already traveling that way when it’s released, so it naturally “leads” the receiver.
http://www.spreadoffense.com/ssp/sprint_out_pass
2. "he threw with a very tense upper body and he squeezes the ball hard, which can cause the ball to flutter or sail on him at times"
Tom Luginbill, ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=4098507
3. My criterion when it was windy was to throw a spiral. ‘You can’t rush it, either. Slow down the motion. When you speed up and try to power the ball, you give up a certain amount of control. Your accuracy definitely suffers. You want to be nice and smooth. You’ll get through the wind better than if you try to muscle it.
Overgripping is the most frequent mistake I see among quarterbacks at all levels, including the pros. ‘I found the harder I’d squeeze, the less control I’d have. When you throw, your arm should move like a whip. It can’t move that way when the muscles are tense.
Phil Simms, New York Times http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/how-to-stop-downward-spiral-for-eli-manning/?apage=2
4. If you’re interested in learning more about how to throw a tight spiral, you can consult this article in The Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119707054348217657.html.
Excerpts:
Physicists say a football needs to spin to be gyroscopically stable, but as soon as it’s airborne, wind and gravity will try to knock it from its axis and make it wobble like a slow bicycle. That a quarterback can throw one of these things 60 yards and hit a moving target “is just amazing,” says William Rae, professor emeritus of aerospace engineering at the University at Buffalo.
Simms has written a book called “Phil Simms on Passing” and tutored several promising quarterbacks (at no charge) from nearby schools. If he’d known what he knows now while he was still playing, he says, “I would have set records.”
While running, the passer must twist his torso perpendicular to the target in a quick, cocking motion. Many passers do not get their shoulders far enough around – while still running – especially when sprinting out in the opposite direction of their passing arm.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The throwing motion and subsequent release must immediately follow the cocking motion. This uses the momentum of the motion to assist the throw, like loading and releasing a spring. Many times QBs hesitate, creating two distinct motions, back and forth, which depletes the momentum and causes the pass to sail or flutter.
When running in the same direction of the receiver, the passer does not have to “lead” the receiver. A lot of quarterbacks don’t realize this. It’s simple physics. The ball is already traveling that way when it’s released, so it naturally “leads” the receiver.
http://www.spreadoffense.com/ssp/sprint_out_pass
2. "he threw with a very tense upper body and he squeezes the ball hard, which can cause the ball to flutter or sail on him at times"
Tom Luginbill, ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=4098507
3. My criterion when it was windy was to throw a spiral. ‘You can’t rush it, either. Slow down the motion. When you speed up and try to power the ball, you give up a certain amount of control. Your accuracy definitely suffers. You want to be nice and smooth. You’ll get through the wind better than if you try to muscle it.
Overgripping is the most frequent mistake I see among quarterbacks at all levels, including the pros. ‘I found the harder I’d squeeze, the less control I’d have. When you throw, your arm should move like a whip. It can’t move that way when the muscles are tense.
Phil Simms, New York Times http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/how-to-stop-downward-spiral-for-eli-manning/?apage=2
4. If you’re interested in learning more about how to throw a tight spiral, you can consult this article in The Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119707054348217657.html.
Excerpts:
Physicists say a football needs to spin to be gyroscopically stable, but as soon as it’s airborne, wind and gravity will try to knock it from its axis and make it wobble like a slow bicycle. That a quarterback can throw one of these things 60 yards and hit a moving target “is just amazing,” says William Rae, professor emeritus of aerospace engineering at the University at Buffalo.
Simms has written a book called “Phil Simms on Passing” and tutored several promising quarterbacks (at no charge) from nearby schools. If he’d known what he knows now while he was still playing, he says, “I would have set records.”
