Player from last year no longer enrolled at UM.

[Raider]

Raider **** Raider *** How many times do I need to tell you, JJ is back. Coach and all connected have him innocent and back as the starting QB for Montana. The Griz have five back ups now and seem loaded for 2013........Raider it is waaaay to early to be drinking and on a tuesday to boot. Nice to see you are still alive though.....

Bill

What the hell does Tuesday have to do with anything.

 

[tnt]

If JJ is not enrolled for Winter Semester, he will not be participating in Spring drills, regardless of the outcome of the trial.

You do realize that there is not a Winter Semester at UM!

The correct term is Winter term and we have one . Seeing as spring semester started YESTERDAY, I doubt the directory is up to date.

MOST students forego Winter Term. Carry on

I believe it is "Winter Session", but carry on TNT.

Correct. In any event its doubtful the Spring directory is out......

 

[firmgriz]

Sorry Raider but I think your prediction is wrong. Assuming he is acquitted JJ will be back. He's a great Griz and I can't wait to see him back on the field with his team in '13.

 

[Raider]

The sad thing is that you guys think this hinges on JJ’s willingness to come back. That has nothing to do with it.

Yes, JJ wants to be back. Yes, he is actively working out. Yes, he was in the stands every game cheering on his team. Yes, allot of his teammates believe he will return. None of this is a revelation and this outcome has nothing to do with his dedication to the Griz.

Assuming (which is a HUGE assumption) that JJ is found innocent, that is only part of the issue.

The again, I was told I was full of shit on the Roderick intel as well…………………………

 

[Filthy McGrizzly]

I'm hoping Raiders wrong on this...........again :thumb:

 

[go96griz]

The sad thing is that you guys think this hinges on JJ’s willingness to come back. That has nothing to do with it.

Yes, JJ wants to be back. Yes, he is actively working out. Yes, he was in the stands every game cheering on his team. Yes, allot of his teammates believe he will return. None of this is a revelation and this outcome has nothing to do with his dedication to the Griz.

Assuming (which is a HUGE assumption) that JJ is found innocent, that is only part of the issue.

The again, I was told I was full of shit on the Roderick intel as well…………………………

Assuming JJ is found innocent, there sure would be a lot of legal exposure if he was not allowed to play. I believe a standard was already set when Jimmy Wilson was allowed to complete his career. I really don't believe that UM will want a lawsuit hanging over their head where they are very likely to lose.

 

[Raider]

The sad thing is that you guys think this hinges on JJ’s willingness to come back. That has nothing to do with it.

Yes, JJ wants to be back. Yes, he is actively working out. Yes, he was in the stands every game cheering on his team. Yes, allot of his teammates believe he will return. None of this is a revelation and this outcome has nothing to do with his dedication to the Griz.

Assuming (which is a HUGE assumption) that JJ is found innocent, that is only part of the issue.

The again, I was told I was full of shit on the Roderick intel as well…………………………

Assuming JJ is found innocent, there sure would be a lot of legal exposure if he was not allowed to play. I believe a standard was already set when Jimmy Wilson was allowed to complete his career. I really don't believe that UM will want a lawsuit hanging over their head where they are very likely to lose.

If it were only that simple.

I can tell you that a certain Regent has made very open and candid threats to the University about this issue…........lawsuit or not.

The scenario you just described is very likely to occur, and this is allot more complicated and political than the Jimmy Wilson situation.

 

[garizzalies]

i have to agree with Raider. Was Jimmy "expelled" or even go thru the honor court thingy? We didn't even have the new "code" when Jimmy's stuff happened. Seems hard to use Jimmy as precedence.

 

[Grisly Fan]

The sad thing is that you guys think this hinges on JJ’s willingness to come back. That has nothing to do with it.

Yes, JJ wants to be back. Yes, he is actively working out. Yes, he was in the stands every game cheering on his team. Yes, allot of his teammates believe he will return. None of this is a revelation and this outcome has nothing to do with his dedication to the Griz.

Assuming (which is a HUGE assumption) that JJ is found innocent, that is only part of the issue.

The again, I was told I was full of shit on the Roderick intel as well…………………………

Assuming JJ is found innocent, there sure would be a lot of legal exposure if he was not allowed to play. I believe a standard was already set when Jimmy Wilson was allowed to complete his career. I really don't believe that UM will want a lawsuit hanging over their head where they are very likely to lose.

If it were only that simple.

I can tell you that a certain Regent has made very open and candid threats to the University about this issue…........lawsuit or not.

The scenario you just described is very likely to occur, and this is allot more complicated and political than the Jimmy Wilson situation.

Any single regent trying to assert their will (whatever it may be) is at the very least a high stakes gambit. If for no other then that, I would like to see JJ acquitted just to watch it unfold...

 

[grizfnz]

i have to agree with Raider. Was Jimmy "expelled" or even go thru the honor court thingy? We didn't even have the new "code" when Jimmy's stuff happened. Seems hard to use Jimmy as precedence.

Was the new code in place when the "alleged incident" involving the accuser and JJ took place or are Pat and Mrs. Williams trying to make it their mission to implement vigilante justice on behalf of the accuser as I understand they are family friends? If JJ is acquitted and not allowed to play I would assume said regent may be named personally if JJ files suit against the U.

If what Raider claims is true, it sure appears that Rolls Royce sold his soul to the devil to become president and his selfish act may cause irreparable harm (both monetarily and publicly) to an outstanding University.

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[go96griz]

The sad thing is that you guys think this hinges on JJ’s willingness to come back. That has nothing to do with it.

Yes, JJ wants to be back. Yes, he is actively working out. Yes, he was in the stands every game cheering on his team. Yes, allot of his teammates believe he will return. None of this is a revelation and this outcome has nothing to do with his dedication to the Griz.

Assuming (which is a HUGE assumption) that JJ is found innocent, that is only part of the issue.

The again, I was told I was full of shit on the Roderick intel as well…………………………

Assuming JJ is found innocent, there sure would be a lot of legal exposure if he was not allowed to play. I believe a standard was already set when Jimmy Wilson was allowed to complete his career. I really don't believe that UM will want a lawsuit hanging over their head where they are very likely to lose.

If it were only that simple.

I can tell you that a certain Regent has made very open and candid threats to the University about this issue…........lawsuit or not.

The scenario you just described is very likely to occur, and this is allot more complicated and political than the Jimmy Wilson situation.

Thanks, Raider. I do appreciate your insight.

 

[go96griz]

i have to agree with Raider. Was Jimmy "expelled" or even go thru the honor court thingy? We didn't even have the new "code" when Jimmy's stuff happened. Seems hard to use Jimmy as precedence.

Just to clarify, JJ has not been expelled at this time... He is still in school and his expulsion appeal has been put on hold until the legal case is worked out.

The precedence being that Jimmy was charged with a felony and then acquitted and then he was allowed to finish out his career at UM. Legal matters took over before Jimmy could be expelled (i.e. - he was arrested in California before the school could even take him through the expulsion process).

 

[MT Head Guy]

Is it JJ's right to play if aquitted? Is UM legally bound to let him play if found innocent?

Not trying to be a jerk, but just asking since it sounds like folks believe there will be a huge lawsuit.

 

[nzone]

If in fact JJ is found not guilty what, then, did he do wrong? If Pat Williams has an issue with JJ is it any more than a "I don't like him so off with his head" at that point. What would be the precedence of not allowing JJ to play if he chose do to so? People say well JJ may have put the University in a bad light when in fact he may well be innocent and the University may have put itself in a bad light.

 

[bigtyme]

JJ will own the U when he is done with this political garbage. That is what this is and is why Pat Williams and RE have their paws on everything. It is ridiculous what Johnsons family has gone through. Kudos to him for having the fortitude to stay in Missoula. PW is a flippin tool!

 

[grizfnz]

If in fact JJ is found not guilty what, then, did he do wrong? If Pat Williams has an issue with JJ is it any more than a "I don't like him so off with his head" at that point. What would be the precedence of not allowing JJ to play if he chose do to so? People say well JJ may have put the University in a bad light when in fact he may well be innocent and the University may have put itself in a bad light.

Rolls Royce did put the U in a bad light by letting a rapist flee the country, whether or not JJ did remains to be seen. If acquitted and not allowed to play, I can't imagine why any future student athlete would ever yentertain attending an institution that appears to be implementing a "guilty until proven innocent followed up with guilty regardless of being proven innocent" policy?

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[go96griz]

The sad thing is that you guys think this hinges on JJ’s willingness to come back. That has nothing to do with it.

Yes, JJ wants to be back. Yes, he is actively working out. Yes, he was in the stands every game cheering on his team. Yes, allot of his teammates believe he will return. None of this is a revelation and this outcome has nothing to do with his dedication to the Griz.

Assuming (which is a HUGE assumption) that JJ is found innocent, that is only part of the issue.

The again, I was told I was full of shit on the Roderick intel as well…………………………

Assuming JJ is found innocent, there sure would be a lot of legal exposure if he was not allowed to play. I believe a standard was already set when Jimmy Wilson was allowed to complete his career. I really don't believe that UM will want a lawsuit hanging over their head where they are very likely to lose.

If it were only that simple.

I can tell you that a certain Regent has made very open and candid threats to the University about this issue…........lawsuit or not.

The scenario you just described is very likely to occur, and this is allot more complicated and political than the Jimmy Wilson situation.

Raider, I assume you previously commented on this based on some knowledge. Have you changed your opinion now based on JJ's acquittal and the quick verdict? How about the fact that PW has been neutered by his thug comments? How about Royce's comments that JJ is eligible for reinstatement?