Play calling question

[griz70]

I have a question. In the NDSU game we threw the ball on deep sideline fly routes. They were successful. And after success, the Bison safeties had to cheat on the sidelines for assistance to the corners who obviously could not handle are WR's one on one. This had the effect of leaving the middle of the field open as well.

My question. Why in the Cal Poly game did we not throw this even once? There was one throw out of bounds, but only after a QB scramble. I watched the replay. Not once.

Then again in the Liberty game, we only threw the deep sideline pass late in the game after BG was hurt. And it was successful.

We have 4 tall and fast wide receivers that cannot be stopped with one on one coverage. With 5 receivers, why not send one or even two WR's on deep sideline fly routes almost every play. Alternate them, wear out the corners and safeties. This will leave the middle open to the RB and other 2 slot receivers. But simply running the routes is not enough. Need to throw to them often enough to put the safeties on the sidelines as well.

The opponents defense was spread in the Bison game, but was concentrated in our last two games. Go Stitt. Go Griz.

 

[IdaGriz01]

I have a question. In the NDSU game we threw the ball on deep sideline fly routes. They were successful. And after success, the Bison safeties had to cheat on the sidelines for assistance to the corners who obviously could not handle are WR's one on one. This had the effect of leaving the middle of the field open as well.

My question. Why in the Cal Poly game did we not throw this even once? There was one throw out of bounds, but only after a QB scramble. I watched the replay. Not once.

Then again in the Liberty game, we only threw the deep sideline pass late in the game after BG was hurt. And it was successful.

We have 4 tall and fast wide receivers that cannot be stopped with one on one coverage. With 5 receivers, why not send one or even two WR's on deep sideline fly routes almost every play. Alternate them, wear out the corners and safeties. This will leave the middle open to the RB and other 2 slot receivers. But simply running the routes is not enough. Need to throw to them often enough to put the safeties on the sidelines as well.

The opponents defense was spread in the Bison game, but was concentrated in our last two games. Go Stitt. Go Griz.

I'm not really an X's and O's guy, but I'd guess it's because the less-than-stellar offensive line cannot give the QB (whoever he is) enough time for those plays to develop. Many on here worried about the O-line after they saw several practices, but opposing coaches had to wait for some film. And NDSU, as I recall, had a fairly inexperienced D, so they couldn't adjust to that O-line weakness "on the fly" (that is, during the game). But one set of actual game footage would have exposed that flaw ... and it would not take a genius to figure out how to take away that part of UM's game by hurrying the QB.

 

[Spanky]

Ida....a good observation. Lack of OL blocking negates a key part of the Stitt offense. I look forward to Stitt recruiting talent for the OL and maybe we get the monkey of poor blocking off our backs.

 

[JayLarson]

I see the Griz making a major effort to get Naccarotto the ball early in the games on short passes, and these plays have not been gaining any yards. We need to get the ball to Jones and Henderson as often as possible, and stop starting off games by trying to run a read option with a QB who the whole stadium knows is going to hand it off, and when it doesn't work the first time, don't run it again.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I see the Griz making a major effort to get Naccarotto the ball early in the games on short passes, and these plays have not been gaining any yards. We need to get the ball to Jones and Henderson as often as possible, and stop starting off games by trying to run a read option with a QB who the whole stadium knows is going to hand it off, and when it doesn't work the first time, don't run it again.

100% correct on getting the ball to Jones and Henderson as often as possible from the get go. I posted that after the Poly game. :thumb: EWU commits to getting the ball to Kupp often in the 1st half. The GRIZ need that for Henderson and Jones.

 

[brewskis]

Stitt's offense is designed to read the defense and take what they are giving us. After the NDSU game defenses have been playing deeper on Hendu and Roberts and making us beat them with Naccarato. If Naccarato starts busting a few screens and short routes for 8-10 yards consistently, they will start to give him more attention...then we go outside to Hendu & co.

NDSU's defensive coordinator really shit the bed against us.

 

[Spanky]

Speaking of Kupp....talk about an all world WR! He is a special talent, indeed.

 

[JayLarson]

Stitt's offense is designed to read the defense and take what they are giving us. After the NDSU game defenses have been playing deeper on Hendu and Roberts and making us beat them with Naccarato. If Naccarato starts busting a few screens and short routes for 8-10 yards consistently, they will start to give him more attention...then we go outside to Hendu & co.

NDSU's defensive coordinator really shit the bed against us.

I can't see Naccorato doing that, he is easy to bring down.

 

[mcg]

I have a question. In the NDSU game we threw the ball on deep sideline fly routes. They were successful. And after success, the Bison safeties had to cheat on the sidelines for assistance to the corners who obviously could not handle are WR's one on one. This had the effect of leaving the middle of the field open as well.

My question. Why in the Cal Poly game did we not throw this even once? There was one throw out of bounds, but only after a QB scramble. I watched the replay. Not once.

Then again in the Liberty game, we only threw the deep sideline pass late in the game after BG was hurt. And it was successful.

We have 4 tall and fast wide receivers that cannot be stopped with one on one coverage. With 5 receivers, why not send one or even two WR's on deep sideline fly routes almost every play. Alternate them, wear out the corners and safeties. This will leave the middle open to the RB and other 2 slot receivers. But simply running the routes is not enough. Need to throw to them often enough to put the safeties on the sidelines as well.

The opponents defense was spread in the Bison game, but was concentrated in our last two games. Go Stitt. Go Griz.

I'm not really an X's and O's guy, but I'd guess it's because the less-than-stellar offensive line cannot give the QB (whoever he is) enough time for those plays to develop. Many on here worried about the O-line after they saw several practices, but opposing coaches had to wait for some film. And NDSU, as I recall, had a fairly inexperienced D, so they couldn't adjust to that O-line weakness "on the fly" (that is, during the game). But one set of actual game footage would have exposed that flaw ... and it would not take a genius to figure out how to take away that part of UM's game by hurrying the QB.

So when do the Griz shore up the pass blocking, either with a back who can really block well or (gasp!) with a tight end who can block?

 

[Griz!ron]

We might see an expanded running game with the read options going to the QB a few more times in a game.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I have a question. In the NDSU game we threw the ball on deep sideline fly routes. They were successful. And after success, the Bison safeties had to cheat on the sidelines for assistance to the corners who obviously could not handle are WR's one on one. This had the effect of leaving the middle of the field open as well.

My question. Why in the Cal Poly game did we not throw this even once? There was one throw out of bounds, but only after a QB scramble. I watched the replay. Not once.

Then again in the Liberty game, we only threw the deep sideline pass late in the game after BG was hurt. And it was successful.

We have 4 tall and fast wide receivers that cannot be stopped with one on one coverage. With 5 receivers, why not send one or even two WR's on deep sideline fly routes almost every play. Alternate them, wear out the corners and safeties. This will leave the middle open to the RB and other 2 slot receivers. But simply running the routes is not enough. Need to throw to them often enough to put the safeties on the sidelines as well.

The opponents defense was spread in the Bison game, but was concentrated in our last two games. Go Stitt. Go Griz.

I'm not really an X's and O's guy, but I'd guess it's because the less-than-stellar offensive line cannot give the QB (whoever he is) enough time for those plays to develop. Many on here worried about the O-line after they saw several practices, but opposing coaches had to wait for some film. And NDSU, as I recall, had a fairly inexperienced D, so they couldn't adjust to that O-line weakness "on the fly" (that is, during the game). But one set of actual game footage would have exposed that flaw ... and it would not take a genius to figure out how to take away that part of UM's game by hurrying the QB.

Yet somehow Chalich was able to get it to Jones multiple times.

 

[griz70]

Az Griz. "Exactly".

 

[brewskis]

Stitt's offense is designed to read the defense and take what they are giving us. After the NDSU game defenses have been playing deeper on Hendu and Roberts and making us beat them with Naccarato. If Naccarato starts busting a few screens and short routes for 8-10 yards consistently, they will start to give him more attention...then we go outside to Hendu & co.

NDSU's defensive coordinator really shit the bed against us.

I can't see Naccorato doing that, he is easy to bring down.

He's been ok, but hasn't done enough to make defenses give him any special attention. Daum should be a great one at that position.

 

[fanofzoo]

I have a question. In the NDSU game we threw the ball on deep sideline fly routes. They were successful. And after success, the Bison safeties had to cheat on the sidelines for assistance to the corners who obviously could not handle are WR's one on one. This had the effect of leaving the middle of the field open as well.

My question. Why in the Cal Poly game did we not throw this even once? There was one throw out of bounds, but only after a QB scramble. I watched the replay. Not once.

Then again in the Liberty game, we only threw the deep sideline pass late in the game after BG was hurt. And it was successful.

We have 4 tall and fast wide receivers that cannot be stopped with one on one coverage. With 5 receivers, why not send one or even two WR's on deep sideline fly routes almost every play. Alternate them, wear out the corners and safeties. This will leave the middle open to the RB and other 2 slot receivers. But simply running the routes is not enough. Need to throw to them often enough to put the safeties on the sidelines as well.

The opponents defense was spread in the Bison game, but was concentrated in our last two games. Go Stitt. Go Griz.

I'm not really an X's and O's guy, but I'd guess it's because the less-than-stellar offensive line cannot give the QB (whoever he is) enough time for those plays to develop. Many on here worried about the O-line after they saw several practices, but opposing coaches had to wait for some film. And NDSU, as I recall, had a fairly inexperienced D, so they couldn't adjust to that O-line weakness "on the fly" (that is, during the game). But one set of actual game footage would have exposed that flaw ... and it would not take a genius to figure out how to take away that part of UM's game by hurrying the QB.

So when do the Griz shore up the pass blocking, either with a back who can really block well or (gasp!) with a tight end who can block?

What is this tight end you speak of?