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pass-fail report card at the first time out

citygriz

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pass: cameron rundles. three-star recruit, and showing why. he'll make mistakes like all freshman point guards do, but we've got a good young 'un here at a critical position.

pass: strait and hasquet. getting better, both individually and as a low-post tandem. in orlando hasquet set up strait with several nice passes.

pass: bryan ellis. penetrates, pesky defender, great story. main rap: doesn't shoot enough.

fail: gus chase. he's no kamaar davis, and even if he learns the playbook, he'll still be 6'3" and woefully undersized. by all accounts a nice young man, but the single biggest disappointment to me of the early season.

fail: matt martin. too small and too slow. enduring picture of the west virginia game will be martin lunging way too late from way too far away at west virginia's three-point shooters. from a projected starter and team leader, he's dropped in my estimation to a seventh or eighth man off the bench, a streaky shooter that might get you back in a game from three-point range.

fail: stewart mayes. wha happen him? we could really use his ahtleticism, his perimiter defense. he almost single-handedly turned around the sac state game at sac last year.

incompletes: austin swift, kyle sharp, ryan staudacher, dave vanderjagt. after chase, my biggest single disppointment is that none of these guys has really emerged, and yet the season rides on at least one of them--hopefully swift--doing just that. if any two emerge as key players by march, we'll really be tough. but vanderjagt looks to be a project.

incomplete: entire coaching staff. tinkle will become a great head coach, but it's obvious we lost a lot of experience and stature when we lost krysko and huse.

honorary degrees: criswell and matthews. any even slightly offensive thing i ever uttered about either of them is totally forgotten, okay? we miss them greatly.
 
gb1: staudacher sat out a year, so i think of him more as a redshirt freshman. as for vanderjagt, i was hoping his international experience would pay some dividends immeidately. it's obvious both are going to need more time, and may not contribute much this year.

the greatest leap most players make is between their freshman and sophomore years, and i was keenly hoping we'd see that in both sharp and swift. at least, both are showing flashes of improvement.
 
citygriz said:
gb1: staudacher sat out a year, so i think of him more as a redshirt freshman. as for vanderjagt, i was hoping his international experience would pay some dividends immeidately. it's obvious both are going to need more time, and may not contribute much this year.

the greatest leap most players make is between their freshman and sophomore years, and i was keenly hoping we'd see that in both sharp and swift. at least, both are showing flashes of improvement.

I would hardly equate Stads sitting out as a redshirt since redshirts are with the team practicing and learning the system daily. As for Vandy, Tinks tried to convince him to redshirt so he could get physically stronger, whihc no one coul dargue would benefit him. AAU is fine, but it hardly compares to D1 and guys that are physically more mature. I agree players make a big leap between their freshmen and sophomore seasons, keep in mind Mathews didn't emerge early in the season.
 
gf 10: there's no respect in "all due respect!"

i did not see the va tech game. martin was absolutely lost against west virginia.

still, i hope you're right. we need a team leader, and as a junior, martin would be the ideal one to step into that role. that and a little more consistency.
 
City wheres your grade on Dlouhy. I was looking for him to be our team leader but he looked lost & like he didn't even care sometimes against WVU. The kid can shoot from deep & can rebound & defend like nobody else on the team, he just needs to be more consistent.
 
I think any grade you give this team has to be an incomplete if you are grading on a "Big Sky Level". I would be curiuos to see what the combine win / loss totals of the teams they have played. Lrt them play a few more games with non ACC or Big ten teams.

Unless I am mistaken isn't Mayes history
 
I think all-in-all its tough to judge this team based on their opponents so far:

MSU-N - A given.

UVST - Looking like a very good team, 1 loss to Cal but just beat W. Illinois to improve to 4-1

Wyoming - Also 4-1, only loss was splitting a two game match-up against UAB.

West Va - Big East is one of the premier basketball divisions

Va Tech - A very good team with almost all of its startes back from last year.

This was a rough start, brutal in fact. But looking ahead this team had a good chance to make a statement;

Boise St
Westen Ky
UC Riverside
SDSU
MT Tech

- All home games!

The Griz need to gel over this strech b/c they then hit the road for 5 games in a row, Oral Roberts, Portland, Portland St, EWU & Sac.
 
Swilly3224 said:
Mslacat said:
Unless I am mistaken isn't Mayes history

Hes done

what happened?

and I am a Matt Martin fan, I like the energy he brings.

He played great against Stanford, and then missed the shot against UW-Mil. and got benched because of that missed three. I think he lost his go for broke style and is thinking too much as they say. :twocents: he will eventually get it back I hope.
 
Swilly3224 said:
Mslacat said:
Unless I am mistaken isn't Mayes history

Hes done

what happened?

and I am a Matt Martin fan, I like the energy he brings.

He played great against Stanford, and then missed the shot against UW-Mil. and got benched because of that missed three. I think he lost his go for broke style and is thinking too much as they say. :twocents: he will eventually get it back I hope.
 
I really think that Rundles is the future star of this team. The guy can shoot and, like Bryan Ellis, he's fast. I was kind of surprised that Vanderjagt isn't redshirting but he really needs to develop and get stronger.
 
Swilly3224 said:
Mslacat said:
Unless I am mistaken isn't Mayes history

Hes done
OR perhaps he's not done. Per today's Missoulian, Stu is back and with the team for today's Boise game. Swil- I suggest you be careful with these types of assertions when it comes to GRIZ student athletes. :naughty:
 
GrizWhiz said:
Swilly3224 said:
Mslacat said:
Unless I am mistaken isn't Mayes history

Hes done
OR perhaps he's not done. Per today's Missoulian, Stu is back and with the team for today's Boise game. Swil- I suggest you be careful with these types of assertions when it comes to GRIZ student athletes. :naughty:

I didnt say he was done for good. He just got suspened because his grades and was talking back to Tinks....
 
Swilly3224 said:
GrizWhiz said:
Swilly3224 said:
Mslacat said:
Unless I am mistaken isn't Mayes history

Hes done
OR perhaps he's not done. Per today's Missoulian, Stu is back and with the team for today's Boise game. Swil- I suggest you be careful with these types of assertions when it comes to GRIZ student athletes. :naughty:

I didnt say he was done for good. He just got suspened because his grades and was talking back to Tinks....
Pretty weak. :liar:
 
What about Chavez? I would give him a passing grade, he's definately should get more playing time. He brought a lot of energy off the bench, and some good shooting, during the Old Spice games.
 
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