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PAIN IN PULLMAN

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griz71

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Just heard on local sports radio (KJR) in Seattle that Klay Thompson of Washington State has been suspended for one game (for now) by Coach Bone for his arrest last night for possession of marijuana. Just may cramp their style against UCLA Saturday and perhaps their NCAA tournamanr chances.......follows on the heels of a UW football player getting busted yesterday for the same thing (and his mother is a police officer!).....what are these guys thinking? Obviously not very well if not much.
 
griz71 said:
Just heard on local sports radio (KJR) in Seattle that Klay Thompson of Washington State has been suspended for one game (for now) by Coach Bone for his arrest last night for possession of marijuana. Just may cramp their style against UCLA Saturday and perhaps their NCAA tournamanr chances.......follows on the heels of a UW football player getting busted yesterday for the same thing (and his mother is a police officer!).....what are these guys thinking? Obviously not very well if not much.
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They are college kids, who like to smoke dope, just like we all did when we were in college.
 
Sorry, but I think these kids are just plain stupid. They know they are in everyone's spotlight and one everyone's platform, so they NEED to be "model students." Risking everything they have worked for and hoped for is, as I said, just plain stupid. I have NO sympathy whatsoever for the kids who aren't able to keep their noses clean when they are on scholarship and are "heroes'" to all the fans of their team. I would love to have had my way (or that of my daughter) paid to go to college, but that didn't happen. When it does happen, I believe kids had damned well better live up to the expectations of those who extended the scholarships.
 
The dude that beat his girlfriend should be locked up for awhile. On the otherhand, a guy getting busted for a little pot is not exactly hard core earth shattering news. Pot is pot, at least he didnt get busted for coke or meth.

The people who have been to Pullman for an extended period of time would know, for a college student, that it would be near to impossible to stay away from alcohol or drugs (if its your thing).........Pullman isnt exactly what you would call a lively, kid friendly town (Unless if you like hunting mule deer, Pheasants, or harvesting lentils).

It should be noted that Growler actually said something that made sense.......... :clap: :thumb:
 
We can debate forever the extent of using marijuana is. Fact is, it is illegal. Harmless or not, does not make it right. Rather it be WAZZU, U of M, or any school, these kids have to get a clue. They have to realize, they are not only in the spotlight, but are THE SPOTLIGHT on their campuses.

The spotlight is even bigger when the player is the biggest star in an athletic program. Pure stupidity in my opinion.

FWIW, just because it is an "in" thing to do, does not make it any more right. It is called self discipline, athlete or not, you need it to stay out of trouble.

Not every college student partakes in getting high, smoking marijuana, etc. Believe it or not, there are many college students that have the common sense ,and smarts to not do that kind of shit. Myself and several of my best friends managed to make it through college, as well as our adult lives without giving into it. Seriously, it was not difficult for me, nor my friends to just say "NO".

We still partied, drank, and fully enjoyed our social lives, even without drugs. We still had good fun, and were popular with the ladies. Besides, if it is about popularity and attracting females, if given females expect a guy to do drugs to get them in bed, well then she is probably not worth pursuing to begin with. Secondly if a person (guy or girl) feel they have to give into those things to be someone, well they probably could use a little dose of self confidence and self assurance.

To each is their own though. However, if one should choose to cross certain lines they should not be crossing, sorry I have no pity for them, and they better be willing to accept the consequences.

In thing or not, plain stupidity on his part.
 
mtgrizrule said:
We can debate forever the extent of using marijuana is. Fact is, it is illegal. Harmless or not, does not make it right. Rather it be WAZZU, U of M, or any school, these kids have to get a clue. They have to realize, they are not only in the spotlight, but are THE SPOTLIGHT on their campuses.

The spotlight is even bigger when the player is the biggest star in an athletic program. Pure stupidity in my opinion.

FWIW, just because it is an "in" thing to do, does not make it any more right. It is called self discipline, athlete or not, you need it to stay out of trouble.

Not every college student partakes in getting high, smoking marijuana, etc. Believe it or not, there are many college students that have the common sense ,and smarts to not do that kind of shit. Myself and several of my best friends managed to make it through college, as well as our adult lives without giving into it. Seriously, it was not difficult for me, nor my friends to just say "NO".

We still partied, drank, and fully enjoyed our social lives, even without drugs. We still had good fun, and were popular with the ladies. Besides, if it is about popularity and attracting females, if given females expect a guy to do drugs to get them in bed, well then she is probably not worth pursuing to begin with. Secondly if a person (guy or girl) feel they have to give into those things to be someone, well they probably could use a little dose of self confidence and self assurance.

To each is their own though. However, if one should choose to cross certain lines they should not be crossing, sorry I have no pity for them, and they better be willing to accept the consequences.

In thing or not, plain stupidity on his part.
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I agree with roughly two thirds of what you said.

Yes, there will always be a debate regarding marijuana use.

Sounds like you led a pretty mistake-free life......Congrats that you were popular with the ladies. It sounds like you are a model citizen regarding self confidence and self assurance. Congrats that you and your friends said "NO" and led a drug-free life.......You are a minority, but part of me wants to call your bluff (and your friends)....but I dont know you, so I wont judge you or your friends.

Curious, what is the "in" thing to do? Smoking pot? If you are saying that is the "in" thing to do these days you are a touch behind the times.....I am pretty sure college/pro athletes have been smoking pot for the last few decades. Yes, current griz players smoke pot (if you dont think so...you need to get a clue on reality). Yes, it is illegal, but my point was that it was better that the kid got busted with pot rather than Meth, Cocaine, EX, LSD, Shrooms, crack, or even Opiate pain killers. Our doctors get people hooked, which then ups the street value of Opiates, and then we start seeing forged Rx's. Besides meth, that is the real problem. Bad news. Ask Ryan Leaf.

Some kids have dependence and addiction issues. I hope the kid gets help, and make a good life for himself. He and Wazzu (for community and media purposes) should be thankful that he isn't didnt get busted with blow or crank.
 
I agree marijuana is the lesser of the evils (drugs) out there. Believe me, I do not believe for a minute other GRIZ athletes, and students at U of M live drug free lives, but there are some that do.

As for my claim about living a drug fee life. It is 100% true, as it is with my 3 best friends from school. It is something I am proud of, and will proudly take my grave when my day comes. As adults, my friends and I talk about this a lot, and we thank GOD every day for whatever it is that kept us from giving into peer pressure.

Our vice was drinking, thankfully we made sure there was always one person sober to drive. When drugs came into play wherever we were at, or things started to get wild, we exited. Basically it took us looking out for one another, and to this day when we get together, we still look out for one another.

It is possible to have a fun college social life without putting yourself in position to get in trouble. All it takes is a group of people committed to common sense.
 
WyomingGrizFan said:
mtgrizrule said:
We can debate forever the extent of using marijuana...Fact is, it is illegal. Harmless or not, does not make it right...have to get a clue...does not make it any more right. It is called self discipline... have the common sense ,and smarts...they probably could use a little dose of self confidence and self assurance.

To each is their own though. However, if one should choose to cross certain lines they should not be crossing, sorry I have no pity for them.
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Interesting oratory of righteous indignation about moral values in judging 'the Ontological Ocean of Being,' as if such practises portrayed by others are a sign of weakness, a lack of self discipline, common sense, self assurance, etc., etc., etc. Though you do admit that if it wasn't for your 'friends' aiding and abetting each other that, well, that's how that goes, as well as your thankfulness to GOD, etc., saw you through your most difficult times while belittling others for 'their' lack of self discipline, etc., etc., etc.

Fact is, it is illegal, harmless or not, does not make it right. your words, not mine. Interesting word, there, 'right.' The Platonic Dialogues would say that "Law" has no sovereignty over 'true knowledge,' so I was wondering what you call 'the Right;' but a mere sectional party in the minority on the worldy scheme of things dictating unto others? But of course, GOD mentioned as well. That old refrain again, an exortation upon metaphysical grounds. Although I'd suppose you already know for a certainty that it was the one and the same Archangel Gabriel that spoke of the Aunnciation and as well spoke unto Mohammed himself, now don't you. Considering the historical significance over the past thousand years or so perhaps you could enlighten us about that association as well when you have the time. Should be quite entertaining. Especially since you have such a commanding acknowledgment of the 'Platonic Touchstone,' as such. But then again I guess you can go by the old time-honored adage of..."See no Evil, hear no evil, etc." and maintain your ignorance while saying that's just somebody else and it doesn't affect you in the slightest; besides, it probably isn't a religion anyways and besides, you got your God and that's good enough, right? Strength of Faith and all that.

Granted, illegal; without the legalization, but certainly a decriminialization process requiring some attention.

Peer pressure? Confidence beyond all words: Shamballah.

Or do you wish to teach the Incas on the wherewithal of the utilization of cocaine as well? But of course, you have your God to see you through unto your perch somewhere abouts. Must be easy for you to determine the right and wrong for the entirety of the human race since, oh, well, how about since God knows when.

Oh, by the way, isn't it also that 'The Church's' position that..."Morality is injured when dependent upon God?" As in salvation is dependent upon God but morality is dependent upon man, so to speak.
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WyomingGrizFan said:
mtgrizrule said:
We can debate forever the extent of using marijuana...Fact is, it is illegal. Harmless or not, does not make it right...have to get a clue...does not make it any more right. It is called self discipline... have the common sense ,and smarts...they probably could use a little dose of self confidence and self assurance.

To each is their own though. However, if one should choose to cross certain lines they should not be crossing, sorry I have no pity for them.
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Interesting oratory of righteous indignation about moral values in judging 'the Ontological Ocean of Being,' as if such practises portrayed by others are a sign of weakness, a lack of self discipline, common sense, self assurance, etc., etc., etc. Though you do admit that if it wasn't for your 'friends' aiding and abetting each other that, well, that's how that goes, as well as your thankfulness to GOD, etc., saw you through your most difficult times while belittling others for 'their' lack of self discipline, etc., etc., etc.

Fact is, it is illegal, harmless or not, does not make it right. your words, not mine. Interesting word, there, 'right.' The Platonic Dialogues would say that "Law" has no sovereignty over 'true knowledge,' so I was wondering what you call 'the Right;' but a mere sectional party in the minority on the worldy scheme of things dictating unto others? But of course, GOD mentioned as well. That old refrain again, an exortation upon metaphysical grounds. Although I'd suppose you already know for a certainty that it was the one and the same Archangel Gabriel that spoke of the Aunnciation and as well spoke unto Mohammed himself, now don't you. Considering the historical significance over the past thousand years or so perhaps you could enlighten us about that association as well when you have the time. Should be quite entertaining. Especially since you have such a commanding acknowledgment of the 'Platonic Touchstone,' as such. But then again I guess you can go by the old time-honored adage of..."See no Evil, hear no evil, etc." and maintain your ignorance while saying that's just somebody else and it doesn't affect you in the slightest; besides, it probably isn't a religion anyways and besides, you got your God and that's good enough, right? Strength of Faith and all that.

Granted, illegal; without the legalization, but certainly a decriminialization process requiring some attention.

Peer pressure? Confidence beyond all words. Shamballah.

Or do you wish to teach the Incas on the wherewithal of the utilization of cocaine as well? But of course, you have your God to see you through unto your perch somewhere abouts. Must be easy for you to determine the right and wrong for the entirety of the human race since, oh, well, how about since God knows when.

Oh, by the way, isn't it also that 'The Church's' position that..."Morality is injured when dependent upon God?" As in salvation is dependent upon God but morality is dependent upon man, so to speak.
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Rip me as you like Wyo...........I was just trying to point out it is possible for students to not partake into doing those things. Not all students choose to get involved in certain things just because some peers might be.

I was fortunate enough to have friends that supported one another, and when we were in questionable positions, to either get away, or be around others that respected us not wanting to be part of whatever it was.

I had my vices too, and still do. Sorry if you, or anyone were offended by what I posted.
 
mtgrizrule said:
Rip me as you like Wyo...........I was just trying to point out it is possible for students to not partake into doing those things. Not all students choose to get involved in certain things just because some peers might be.

I was fortunate enough to have friends that supported one another, and when we were in questionable positions, to either get away, or be around others that respected us not wanting to be part of whatever it was.

I had my vices too, and still do. Sorry if you, or anyone were offended by what I posted.
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All well and good; didn't know that I double-posted. Sorry about that; thought I only tabbed it once. Even the Platonic Dialogues would say that the most noblest and perfect life is the greatest tragedy. Imagine that. If recognizing that the aim of 'Government' and the aim of 'Law' as Relative and that the gift of Justice is a humanizing effect upon All of Life then go ahead and call it incoherent and rambling, whomever; most 'snobberies of the underling' portray themselves as a victim as they go around victimizing; some type of 'have-nots' against the 'haves' one could say, and we're not talking about political-economic status here either. Some could be a part of the solution or part of the problem, or even hide under their beds and not get involved, though they snipe away at whatever passes by. Playing their life on a stage so to speak for fear of meeting what they really are.

What I was concerned about what was the type of Attitude. Many persons revert to a type of 'Absolute' by implication to answer for all problems that they have not the knowledge of how else to deal with, whether Christian, Islamic or whatever. If a religious connotation has to be inferred even, for there are many philosophical perspectives going back a couple thousand years that are as relevant today as then. Otherwise they enact an absolute ending to such contentions by eradicating the means whether it be but an idea, a substance or that personified, without knowing much else than a reversion to ignorance as an absolution after the fact; as seemingly has been done in many historical settings time after time; the present taken into consideration as well.

Interesting that in the State of Montana recently that Federal Agents cited the crime mobs of Chicago as like back in the twenties allegory and the billion dollar business of 'un-regulated' medical utilization of the so-called 'gateway of drugs' with their demagoguery of haranguing South America and Columbia while at the same time ignoring the deaths of over 100,000 indigenous Nahua masacred over the past forty years south of the border. Even Van Valkenberg of Missoula wanted to outlaw oregano a couple years back because it 'looks' too much like you know what. Do we have our priorities in order here? One would think that the purpose of life is to preserve life as there is no illusion of virtue.

Being that the 'Moral Quality of the Will' is self-acquired there really isn't much else to do but to allow an education that is honest and forthright; otherwise people sense deceit in authority and renounce it with a rebel type of reaction. At least younger generations through the years seemingly have done so, if that is not too rash of a generalization; even back to the days of Prohibition. Really can't save someone from themselves for to do so is indeed an act of terrorism.

Interestingly, I was down in Austin, Texas last March and they had billboards along their streets that had..."buzz driving and drunk driving is one and the same." They seem to accept the fact and can deal with it a lot better than Montana can, place it in a proper setting, if need be, and don't go driving around getting into accidents and endangering other peoples lifes, for instance. not some shallow cursory glance and half-hearted attempt. Of course, they have the University of Texas with their student body and faculty members plus the State Capitol and Legislature with much more resources than Montana and more centrally located as well all in one city that rivals in population the entire State of Montana. They seem to deal with it better as well in a mature and civil fashion. Recognizing what civil liberties really mean. An abuse of 'that' being much more reprehensive than much else.
 
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