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Spanky said:
Missoula....exotic?

From soup pots to this, I love this thread! I do agree with your sentiment, though, clark. Very well stated.

That said, it's pretty sad when all those efforts go to play in a college stadium that's an embarrasment...even when compared to a high school stadium in a little ol' podunk Montana mining town...

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(Note: I am NOT bagging on Naranche. I practiced on the dirt and broken glass, myself, and can't wait to see it for the first time this summer)
 
cclarkblues said:
Well I like the stadium. I like the colors, the mature trees and the water tank. It has some character. I like the fact that in thousands of stadiums like this come fall, moms, dads, sisters, brothers, aunts and uncles will get in their cars or walk to the stadium to see their favorite sons play the greatest game ever. They will cheer as hard as we do for our beloved Griz and the smell of popcorn, polish dogs and beer will be on the evening breeze. Hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of folks with their hears soaring or plunging on every play. In the heat of a hot August night in southern Mississippi or the brutal cold of late November in Missoula they come to both the crackerboxes and the mega stadiums. It is a good thing and one of the things that makes America great.

As far as OPS or Liberty or whoever you might want to look down your nose at, this is an opportunity to go to an exotic place, in this case Missoula, and play a team with a storied history. It will be an experience they will remember their entire life, much as us playing at Iowa or Tennessee. It will also give us a chance to round off some rough edges, maybe rest some injuries. Personally, I hope the OPS boys have a hell of a time here.
Riding up on a bus, jumping off, getting their butts kicked, jumping back on the bus and headed back south - for $50,000 or so. Maybe that will pay for AC on the bus. Great fun.
 
I'm honestly embarrassed by this game. If they score any offensive points it will be a let down. Their schedule besides us is pathetic. Carroll College would beat these guys by 50. One of their opponents last year was Cole College. The founder of Cole College is also the football coach. "The nine-game schedule includes five games against JV squads from the NAIA-level Great Plains Athletic Conference, which Cole hopes the Jaguars eventually can join. The two "home" games are a 23-12 victory over the semipro Mile High Predatorz on Aug. 20 at Vista Peak High School in Aurora and a season-ending matchup with Metro State's club team Oct. 15.

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What a f^cking joke!
 
stubbins said:
AZGrizFan said:
Same conversation an Iowa or Oregon fan has when they schedule a BSC team.
Exactly! That is how we are looked at by 99.9% of college football fans.


Jes-s, could you guys exaggerate a little more……….

dumb
 
BDizzle said:
I'm honestly embarrassed by this game. If they score any offensive points it will be a let down. Their schedule besides us is pathetic. Carroll College would beat these guys by 50. One of their opponents last year was Cole College. The founder of Cole College is also the football coach. "The nine-game schedule includes five games against JV squads from the NAIA-level Great Plains Athletic Conference, which Cole hopes the Jaguars eventually can join. The two "home" games are a 23-12 victory over the semipro Mile High Predatorz on Aug. 20 at Vista Peak High School in Aurora and a season-ending matchup with Metro State's club team Oct. 15.

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What a f^cking joke!

Do they really spell predators with a "z?" :???:

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cclarkblues said:
Well I like the stadium. I like the colors, the mature trees and the water tank. It has some character. I like the fact that in thousands of stadiums like this come fall, moms, dads, sisters, brothers, aunts and uncles will get in their cars or walk to the stadium to see their favorite sons play the greatest game ever. They will cheer as hard as we do for our beloved Griz and the smell of popcorn, polish dogs and beer will be on the evening breeze. Hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of folks with their hears soaring or plunging on every play. In the heat of a hot August night in southern Mississippi or the brutal cold of late November in Missoula they come to both the crackerboxes and the mega stadiums. It is a good thing and one of the things that makes America great.

As far as OPS or Liberty or whoever you might want to look down your nose at, this is an opportunity to go to an exotic place, in this case Missoula, and play a team with a storied history. It will be an experience they will remember their entire life, much as us playing at Iowa or Tennessee. It will also give us a chance to round off some rough edges, maybe rest some injuries. Personally, I hope the OPS boys have a hell of a time here.

Take too long reading cc's post and your sugar level will soar leaving you with diabetes... :coffee:
 
As much as it is easy to rip on the facilities of OPSU, and it is easy, there are a number of places that obviously have better facilities.

This is Allen Tx new high school facility, which incidentally is better than probably 60 to 70% of the college stadiums in the United States.

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Having seen communities and stadiums in pretty much all of Montana, most of Southern Idaho, they are generally reflective of the communities desire to support them. Just because you have a nice stadium doesn't mean you are very good.

Moreover, as much as we have come to expect football to be a big thing in Missoula, programs at the DII and DIII level the focus is still on an academic mission first and athletics second. The money isn't there because it shouldn't be. There are some great DII programs out there but their mission isn't to recruit athletes to play at their school but rather to recruit students who also want to play football. If they happen to be good, that is an added bonus.

Yeah OPSU field is the craps. They are to us what we are to Tennessee, Iowa or Washington. Cannon fodder.
 
Grizfan-24 said:
Yeah OPSU field is the craps. They are to us what we are to Tennessee, Iowa or Washington. Cannon fodder.

Are you really comparing the gap between UW and UM to that of UM and Panhandle State?
 
A couple questions:

1. How much are we paying them to come play us?
2. Obviously, I would much rather play a D-I school... but if the AD insists that we play a NAIA/D-II school, why don't we play a team from Montana & keep the revenue in state?

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No, I am comparing the talent and the impression of those schools on playing down levels. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
 
cclarkblues said:
Well I like the stadium. I like the colors, the mature trees and the water tank. It has some character. I like the fact that in thousands of stadiums like this come fall, moms, dads, sisters, brothers, aunts and uncles will get in their cars or walk to the stadium to see their favorite sons play the greatest game ever. They will cheer as hard as we do for our beloved Griz and the smell of popcorn, polish dogs and beer will be on the evening breeze. Hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of folks with their hears soaring or plunging on every play. In the heat of a hot August night in southern Mississippi or the brutal cold of late November in Missoula they come to both the crackerboxes and the mega stadiums. It is a good thing and one of the things that makes America great.

Wow!! Great paragraph, CClark! Who the hell do you think you are, Mickey Spillane?
 
Grizfan-24 said:
No, I am comparing the talent and the impression of those schools on playing down levels. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
If you can find a program in MT classified as DII, give the AD a call.
 
Ursa Major said:
cclarkblues said:
Well I like the stadium. I like the colors, the mature trees and the water tank. It has some character. I like the fact that in thousands of stadiums like this come fall, moms, dads, sisters, brothers, aunts and uncles will get in their cars or walk to the stadium to see their favorite sons play the greatest game ever. They will cheer as hard as we do for our beloved Griz and the smell of popcorn, polish dogs and beer will be on the evening breeze. Hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of folks with their hears soaring or plunging on every play. In the heat of a hot August night in southern Mississippi or the brutal cold of late November in Missoula they come to both the crackerboxes and the mega stadiums. It is a good thing and one of the things that makes America great.

Wow!! Great paragraph, CClark! Who the hell do you think you are, Mickey Spillane?

...other than the "brutal cold of late Novemer in Missoula". I know that is part of our schtick, but it's annoying as hell. I've been to a dozen college and NFL games in Novmeber a hell of allot colder than WAGriz.
 
This is what I don't get, on one point people get irritated that we play a school that has no football tradition, no stadium and play in a conference that doesn't matter outside of the people who play in it. Yet, interestingly enough most people outside of Missoula, Bozeman, don't care about the Big Sky...Heck even here in Idaho, Boise State, who used to be in the Big Sky and has enough fans who remember the day, could care less what facilities, fanbase and success the UofM, ISU, or MSU has. They just see it as a step down. We may not think so, that there is a gap, that we aren't that far away, but for most people outside of those programs, the fans believe it is wide as the grand canyon.

Here is another way to look at it,

I remember my first years of teaching (in Thompson falls) and I had kids who were there because of their drug/alcohol issues and could not conceive why anyone in their right mind would live in a state like Montana. Most couldn't put Montana on a map and some where wondering exactly when we got electricity and indoor plumbing. The point is, I guess is perception. What we value and don't value is truly unique to where you are at. I just don't see a point at minimizing something that is so entirely relative.

In my decade of coaching experience I have sent far more kids to DII schools than Div I (FCS or FBS) and while kids love playing at DII schools there is no illusion as to why they are there. In fact most long term DII coaches will probably tell you the same thing. The higher you go, and the level of competition and talent increases the more likely you are going to find a whole different level in regards to the illusion as to why they are there. I don't think that is surprising to anyone. The transition between division II and a lot of FCS schools isn't as large as you would think it would be, but at the same point the rule is the same between some of FBS and FCS schools.
 
What I find hard to believe is that a football team would endure a 22 hour bus ride for $50K. After you take off expenses (bus, fuel, hotel, food) it would seem the net takeaway would be pretty small.
 
Grizfan-24 said:
The transition between division II and a lot of FCS schools isn't as large as you would think it would be
Maybe, but in this case we are talking bottom DII (no conf.; NAIA schedule) to the top of FCS. This transition is as large as you would think it would be, maybe larger.
 
kemajic said:
Grizfan-24 said:
The transition between division II and a lot of FCS schools isn't as large as you would think it would be
Maybe, but in this case we are talking bottom DII (no conf.; NAIA schedule) to the top of FCS. This transition is as large as you would think it would be, maybe larger.

Of this you are entirely correct. The game is a budget pad game. Pure profit. No argument bout that.
 
Heck pay Northern or Tech 50,000 grand instead and at least keep the money in state and give some Montana natives the chance to play in a great stadium.
 
The Highwayman said:
Heck pay Northern or Tech 50,000 grand instead and at least keep the money in state and give some Montana natives the chance to play in a great stadium.

My thoughts exactly.

Spanky said:
Who scheduled this game?

I believe O'Day scheduled the game.

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