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No Playoffs

Cats2506 said:
Your out, the NCAA is not short of money (that was an old AD's tale) they make over 700 million each year and spend 40% of it running championships.

So money has nothing to do when the cats make a rare playoff appearance, but when the griz dominate the Big Sky almost every other year THEY ONLY GET A HOME GAME AND A SEED CUZ THEIR STADEUM!!!! NO FAIR BAWWWWW
 
The Griz didn't beat anyone. They have just 6 Div I wins and they were all against weak sisters. Not one win against a top 20 team. They show little reason to be chosen and it will be a travesty if a good team gets left out for a weak Montana team.
 
Spoogie said:
Cats2506 said:
Your out, the NCAA is not short of money (that was an old AD's tale) they make over 700 million each year and spend 40% of it running championships.

So money has nothing to do when the cats make a rare playoff appearance, but when the griz dominate the Big Sky almost every other year THEY ONLY GET A HOME GAME AND A SEED CUZ THEIR STADEUM!!!! NO FAIR BAWWWWW

Money & stadium size has nothing to do with getting in the playoffs, prim example EWU, now once your in then money and stadium size will get you a HOME playoff game.
 
PhxGriz said:
Me. I am hoping for the best.

Would like to believe the selection committee realizes we beat ourselves all year. Hoping, I am not nuts.

While I am disappointed, I feel really bad for the players that have given their all this year and are used to winning.

Please, please let us make the playoffs.

IMHO, it's worse to beat yourself than to have it done by your opponent.
 
Is weber more deserving of a playoff birth than um? Both have the same conference record and the same number of d1 wins, but weber won head to head.

I don't think either will get in, but if um is considered, then weber should be too.
 
I would also like to see Chase in the playoffs...and our defense. They deserve another game. I doubt there would be that big of outrage...if the Griz get in...It isn't like we were ever trounced...every game was really down to the last minute or seconds or whatever. And like it or not we have a venue and fans that pay money.
 
Cats2506 said:
Your out, the NCAA is not short of money (that was an old AD's tale) they make over 700 million each year and spend 40% of it running championships. The FCS playoffs are not a stand alone enterprise, the bids are not opened until all the pairings are completed.

Your out, but you can go to a game in Bozeman, or if you dont want that, you could just send what you would spend on a playoff game to the EZ project :thumb:
Would never waste my time or money going to Bozeman to watch scat football, even when the Griz are there.

I am wondering if any cat fan actually will admit to the fact that the better team did not win today? I understand TOs are part of the game, but it really was a case of Grizzlies beating themselves, which emulates EWU, CP, and Weber. I have no problem getting beat and walking off the field, but to know we beat ourselves really irritates me. I also appreciate a win being a win, so as much as it hurts me to say it...congrats on having a heckuva QB and on the win.
 
kurtismichael said:
grizindabox said:
Spoogie, NDSU has 7 FCS or better victories, including a FBS win, Montana has 6, with the best win Sac St. Do not think for a minute that Montana will get in by money, and history should not even matter.


I hate when we got in because of those reasons in the past..98 and 2005 come to mind. It takes all the wind out of our east coast bias arguements!

I'm not sure what you are talking about. Both years the Griz were 8-3 which is a solid playoff record. In 98 the Griz were big sky champs and received an auto bid to the playoffs. Unlike the Bobcats, I'm pretty sure the Griz have never received a bid with less than 8 wins.
 
bigtyme said:
Cats2506 said:
Your out, the NCAA is not short of money (that was an old AD's tale) they make over 700 million each year and spend 40% of it running championships. The FCS playoffs are not a stand alone enterprise, the bids are not opened until all the pairings are completed.

Your out, but you can go to a game in Bozeman, or if you dont want that, you could just send what you would spend on a playoff game to the EZ project :thumb:
Would never waste my time or money going to Bozeman to watch scat football, even when the Griz are there.

I am wondering if any cat fan actually will admit to the fact that the better team did not win today? I understand TOs are part of the game, but it really was a case of Grizzlies beating themselves, which emulates EWU, CP, and Weber. I have no problem getting beat and walking off the field, but to know we beat ourselves really irritates me. I also appreciate a win being a win, so as much as it hurts me to say it...congrats on having a heckuva QB and on the win.
Good teams don't turn the ball over 4 times in a half.
 
Here is a quality 7-4 team that will get in. They actually beat somebody. Wins against App St and Furman, both 9-2. One loss to FBS Navy.

Georgia Southern

Sat, Sept 4 vsSavannah State W48-3 1-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 11 @Navy L13-7 1-1 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 18 @Coastal Carolina W43-26 2-1 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 25 vsElon W38-21 3-1 (1-0)
Sat, Oct 9 vsWofford L33-31 3-2 (1-1)
Sat, Oct 16 @Chattanooga L35-27 3-3 (1-2)
Sat, Oct 23 @Citadel W20-0 4-3 (2-2)
Sat, Oct 30 vsSamford L20-13 4-4 (2-3)
Sat, Nov 6 vsAppalachian State W21-14 OT 5-4 (3-3)
Sat, Nov 13 @Western Carolina W28-6 6-4 (4-3)
Sat, Nov 20 @Furman W32-28 7-4 (5-3)
 
If the griz get in, fine. if they don't fine, really who cares at this point. In a 16 team field, maybe you care, but to get in because thy bid more money? why? is this what you ant to support?

I am not disappointed in the loss. I am heartbroken by the number of Cat fans in the NEZ. Griz nation has given up on this team, and it happened before the games started. What is the point in financially supporting this sham of a playoff situation if the griz get in?
 
It depends on how you look at the big picture. Good teams can turn the ball over 4 times, good teams can have an off day. The Griz have had a lot of changes this year and that should be remembered by all you naysayers. Griz have dominated for years and maybe this isn't their year. (I hope it is). I would love to see us make the playoffs and play a mistake free game. Our seniors deserve it.
 
Why not put the top 20 teams in the final rankings into the playoffs? I'm assuming the rankings are based on quality of wins, records within conferences, etc. Why all this calculating re: who gets into the playoffs? Determining playoff teams seems pretty simple.
 
David2 said:
Why not put the top 20 teams in the final rankings into the playoffs? I'm assuming the rankings are based on quality of wins, records within conferences, etc. Why all this calculating re: who gets into the playoffs? Determining playoff teams seems pretty simple.

You really want a bunch of media hacks deciding who gets in. The system used works.

Maybe you can argue if you should be the 20th team in but at least the people making the decision are looking at the totality of a teams work and not just voting for the local team and moving somebody up just because.
 
Cats2506 said:
Spoogie said:
Cats2506 said:
Your out, the NCAA is not short of money (that was an old AD's tale) they make over 700 million each year and spend 40% of it running championships.

So money has nothing to do when the cats make a rare playoff appearance, but when the griz dominate the Big Sky almost every other year THEY ONLY GET A HOME GAME AND A SEED CUZ THEIR STADEUM!!!! NO FAIR BAWWWWW

Money & stadium size has nothing to do with getting in the playoffs, prim example EWU, now once your in then money and stadium size will get you a HOME playoff game.

Money has everything to do with unseeded teams, and who hosts. All teams put in blind bids for the first round, and when the committee matches everyone up, whomever has the better bid hosts.

Why do you think people bitch about Montana always hosting a first round game when they are not seeded? It is because they know what they will make and always put in a bid that crushes everyone else.

As I have said, the FCS playoffs are a drop in the NCAA bucket, but even the NCAA likes to make money, rather than lose when they can.
 
Cats2506 said:
David2 said:
Why not put the top 20 teams in the final rankings into the playoffs? I'm assuming the rankings are based on quality of wins, records within conferences, etc. Why all this calculating re: who gets into the playoffs? Determining playoff teams seems pretty simple.

You really want a bunch of media hacks deciding who gets in. The system used works.

Maybe you can argue if you should be the 20th team in but at least the people making the decision are looking at the totality of a teams work and not just voting for the local team and moving somebody up just because.

Aren't the voters of the rankings nationally dispersed? They're not just "local" voters. What do you mean by "local," BTW? I bet that very few of the teams selected for the playoffs will not be in the top 20 rankings. Now, when it comes to seeding, that's another matter, entirely.

What I'm saying is, UM should be in the playoffs as a finisher in the top 20 FCS teams. Pure & simple.
 
If we don't make it I'll root for the Bigsky (what ever team(s) that may be. Even the Cats). Simple as that. East Coast teams can kiss my Turkey eating Griz's ass.

PS... The Griz need to burn the ISU uniforms.
 
Sounds like D2 likes the BCS approach -- but with no computers and only one poll. Stupid.

Are you aware that there are times when it appears that block voting has been practiced by voters favoring their own conference?

Do you really think the No-Scholarship teams are as good as the schollie teams?

Do you really think that schools playing in conferences that have never or rarely won a playoff game are of the same caliber as the heavyweight conferences -- CAA, Sky, Southern, for starters?

That's why the qualifications say history WILL be considered, as well as facilities, how teams are treated when arrangements are made for visitors, and who has a history of producing $$.

Plus, the poll MAY include teams that do NOT participate in post season. Ivies and SWAC, for two.
 
So doesn't it matter that we are ranked #11 and barely lost(should have won) against the #8 team, while NDSU got shut out by an unranked opponent? Do they take into consideration how teams are playing now, like they do in the basketball tourney. I think that should put us in before NDSU.
 
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