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NCAA Investigation
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Just an assumption, but based on the AD quote that losing scholarships and forfeiting games will not be unexpected it is likely the investigation is in the final stages. Either NCAA has handed down those penatlies and UM is deciding whether (or has) appealed those penalties, or UM has offered those penalties and the NCAA is deciding whether to accept or hand down something different. Again, based on AD quote, my guess is UM has full knowledge of the NCAA's findings and is willing to accept at least some of it and accept penalties but is in some type of final negotiation process. I would guess this will wrap up just after school is out.
zengriz said:...only investigation needed...
...and iz needed at the ncaa...
...azzholes are out of control...
......
Add the IRS to this list too.
Da NCAA needs a serious investigation! Da!
One fact remains......we lost many football games last season and the Griz were far out of any serious play-off contention and in fact we trailed the pack....in fact we stunk. That alone was our punishment to ourselves. Fired da bad guys. In fact we are begining the season with the fifth ranked coach from our old staff leading the way. Punishment enough NCAA?
Squeaky clean we are not. Hmmm how about the NCAA being "clean" ..... This investigation is about the NCAA not the U. Period.
One fact remains......we lost many football games last season and the Griz were far out of any serious play-off contention and in fact we trailed the pack....in fact we stunk. That alone was our punishment to ourselves. Fired da bad guys. In fact we are begining the season with the fifth ranked coach from our old staff leading the way. Punishment enough NCAA?
Squeaky clean we are not. Hmmm how about the NCAA being "clean" ..... This investigation is about the NCAA not the U. Period.
The NCAA will avoid the playoff ban; it would likely cost them money to do so. IF UM accepts this without a fight I will be pissed, unless there is a smoking gun out there we are unaware of. UM admin will like the schollie reduction; probably ask for more.getgrizzy said:
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I have no idea what the violations (if any) or penalties (if any) will be, but if that is the penalty it better be a much bigger issue than hot dogs at tailgates and a loan from anothe rplayers paretn to warrant that type of penalty. remember EWU a couple years ago was "wacked" with penalties for violations that dealt with competition issues (ineligible players, excessive coaches) and they didn't forfeit any games, and did not have to miss the playoffs. here is the story on EWU violations and penalties for comparison:getgrizzy said:
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PlayerRep said:
Not sure the NCAA ever cares about reasons.
SACCAT66 said:
Game results would be impacted only if clearly ineligible players were playing. Don't know what you meant by "suspension". There was certainly no reason for UM to suspend them for 5 games for the incident. Kemp didn't play in all 5 of the remaining games. The matter was not settled with the city until after the season. Legal fee payments are not made by clients when they walk in the door for representation. While a fixed fee payment or retainer can be paid up front, often times legal fees are paid over time, or at the end of a matter.
if blue is the color of someone being realistic then that's me i guess. i've talked to several people that have a reputation for getting solid info and they're all saying tha same thing. 3 schollies, decease in practice time and vacating wins in games tru and kemp were in, which means we lose our share of 2011 title and lose recognition of 2011 playoffs. i threw in the playoff ban IF we're found to have gaps in reporting as stated by barz. if the ncaa agrees with her and those gaps include football there's no way we don't get hit with a playoff ban of some kind. flame away all you want, but that's just the reality of the situation.
Again, I never said it should happen. I am just saying that they are looking into that, and your AD has said this could happen. I have also talked to 2-3 AD's from Colleges in Montana (none of them were MSU's) and they have also said the same thing. I hope they are wrong, but I am just going by what everyone else seems to be saying.
I have not seen Haslam discuss what any potential penalties may be, if someone has please post a link, but what I have seen is people mistakenly taking Greg Rachac's conjecture and believing it was a quote from the AD due to the poor writing/transition in the article combined with poor reading comprehension...
"Haslam said he “can’t get into the details” of any infractions he suspects the NCAA may levy against the football program, but it won’t come as a surprise if the Griz lose a couple scholarships or are forced to vacate some victories from what was a hugely successful 2011 season."
All Haslam said was "can't get into details", the rest is Greg conjecturing, rightly or wrongly.
As far as "gaps in reporting" in the Barz report. The alleged gap is not an NCAA matter, though some will say "look at Penn State!". Penn State was is a vastly different issue and the NCAA is going to look like even more of a sh*t show if they start trying to pursue and punish actions outside of their "jurisdiction" at all institutions.
"Haslam said he “can’t get into the details” of any infractions he suspects the NCAA may levy against the football program, but it won’t come as a surprise if the Griz lose a couple scholarships or are forced to vacate some victories from what was a hugely successful 2011 season."
All Haslam said was "can't get into details", the rest is Greg conjecturing, rightly or wrongly.
As far as "gaps in reporting" in the Barz report. The alleged gap is not an NCAA matter, though some will say "look at Penn State!". Penn State was is a vastly different issue and the NCAA is going to look like even more of a sh*t show if they start trying to pursue and punish actions outside of their "jurisdiction" at all institutions.
those are all good points. haslam and rachac aren't the only place i've heard/read this, so haslam's comment did nothing to make me think they aren't at least somewhat accurate. i admit that doesn't make it so. the barz report was self-imposed, so its basically our administration admitting to the n.c.a.a. that this happened. they didn't need to investigate anything, same as the freeh report providing all the info to the n.c.a.a. it may or may not be something that reveals something that they're interested in. no one knows. IF it is i would guess a postseason ban would be placed on us.gah-riz said:
