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MSU the next Gonzaga???

Grizbacker1

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msu fan did nothing but chastise any Griz fan that talked about it happening in Missoula. I wonder what cat fan will say now? It should be entertaining at least.

Column: Why us? Why not us?

By JEFF WELSCH Chronicle Sports Editor

A gifted high school basketball player from Arizona commits early to Montana State, so of course the natural reaction among too many here is ... why?


Why would a kid with overtures from Pacific-10 and Big Ten conference schools opt for the backwaters of the Big Sky? Why leave the sun and fun for unending bitter cold and such exotic winter locales as Ogden, Cheney and Pocatello? Why a so-called cow college when such cerebral bastions as Northwestern, Rice, Stanford and, er, Arizona State (or, as we humble alums prefer to call it, The Harvard of the West) are in hot pursuit?

To which I say ... why not?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and presume that Tyler Miller's decision to matriculate north was probably not influenced by promises of a brand-new rig from a Bobcat-boosting Hummer dealer, a lifetime membership to the Yellowstone Club and four years of Paris Hilton companionship.

Indeed, it's quite possible that a 6-foot-6 guard ranked among the top 200 players in the country might, just might, see Bozeman as an appealing four-year destination instead of a bleak December road trip.

Really now, isn't it time to shake the cow-town, middle-of-nowhere, Unabomber-cultivating, shipped-to-the-FBI-office-in-Butte inferiority complex that's long permeated the state's consciousness?

Hey, take a look around.

Artists, entrepreneurs, business types, writers, filmmakers, college professors and just plain ol' regular folk like your friendly neighborhood sports editor have scrutinized the fruited plain and decided, with apologies to Brigham Young, that this is the place.

It's a choice, not a sentence.

We are not Great Falls.

And MSU's athletic department needn't remain on a time-warp island in the Gallatin, isolated from the burgeoning prosperity.

What, for instance, is to keep MSU from becoming the next Gonzaga in basketball?

Yeah, the Bobcats' facilities need serious upgrading, but it wasn't so long ago that Gonzaga was invisible even in Spokane, a quaint private college with a cozy gym called "The Kennel" where mostly only students, faculty and a few diehards cared.

The Zags dared to dream, and now they're playing to sellouts in a breathtakingly beautiful on-campus arena.

Less than 50 years ago, Boise State was a junior college, and 27 years ago, it won a Division I-AA football title.

The Broncos dared to dream, and last season they won the Fiesta Bowl.

In the early '80s, Montana played in a rickety football stadium that looked more like the rodeo grounds in Malta.

The Grizzlies dared to dream, and now they're playing in the prettiest small-college stadium in American, with a realistic eye on loftier reaches.

The Bobcats have taken some baby steps in that direction.

Men's basketball coach Brad Huse not only has quickly proven he has an eye for talent and the acumen to build a winner, his history suggests he's not a vagabond always looking, Larry Brown-like, for the next best thing.

Ditto for new football coach Rob Ash, who stayed 18 years at Drake.

All it takes now, as it did for Gonzaga (Matt Santangelo), Boise State (Ryan Dinwiddie) and Montana (Dave Dickenson), is for that one or two players - say, a Tyler Miller - to eschew so-called major programs, to help push MSU through that pyschological ceiling and get this ball rolling.

Of course, Miller can't make his decision official until he signs a binding letter of intent in November 2008.

As with any teen-ager, a change of heart wouldn't stop the presses, even as he insists his love of the outdoors, desire for an engineering degree, family connections and eagerness to make a noteworthy impact on a program won't wane between now and then.

The glass-half-empty set can't imagine that he'll follow through.

Here's hoping this Great Decider really does stay the course.

Maybe then, as more of the best and the brightest decide that MSU truly is the place - no Hummers, the Yellowstone Club or Paris Hilton necessary, thank you - longtime Bobcat believers will stop asking "why us" ... and start saying "why not us?"
 
Maybe not the next Gonzaga, but we are on the move. We have a top notch X's and O's head coach. We have 4 great recruiters on staff, our team talent level is growing day by day. Where we will be in two years will be by far over shadow where we are now. That said though I think the Big Sky talent level is really improving. Weber, Montana, and Northern Arizona are also upgrading their program. I think in a few years we definitely could have to groups in Big Sky Basketball The haves and the have not. The key is who will be able to keep their coaching staff together the longest. I think Reahe from Weber might be the first of the powers to move on. Tinkle could be around a little longer given his Missoula roots. Huse is in the same position as Tinkle, but it is already quite clear who his successor will be.
 
Can someone explain what is so special about this kid? Is it simply the fact that he committed early?

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=67550

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2933193
 
Turd Ferguson said:
Can someone explain what is so special about this kid? Is it simply the fact that he committed early?

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=67550

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2933193

You make a point in that the kid is only a Junior to be, but one thing to remember the pages you posted most of the info on their has not been updated since his freshman year. The other thing to remember though how many big sky recruits have been followed by both Scout.com and Rivals.com? The answer is not many. Both organizations did not have a prospect page (like you posted above) on Selvig or Howard until the end of their junior year. Hasquet never got one until mid way through his senior year and that was only on Scout.com. Strait mid way thru his junior year. I could go on. Just consider these stats he had playing in Arizona's highest school division.

- 17.7 point a game, 9 rebounds 4 assits, 2 steals, 2 blocks. (and playing with the top Sophomore prospect on his team)

- 64% shooting from 3 point land for the season! The best in Arizona no matter class or school size.

- 66% shooing from 2 point land.

_ Not only does he shoot the three with accuracy but he does from deep beyond the NBA 3 point range.

- At 6-6 he plays mostly shooting guard, and he is said to still be growing

- He has a 4.4 GPA on a 4.0 system

- Scout .com has him a top 12 prospect at the small forward

- Rivals has him as one of the top 200 prospects in 2009 (142 to be exact)


Now rating will shift up and down on athletes as time goes on but he certainly does look like a good catch. As a matter of fact just coming out of his Sophmore year I think with the above stats I think he would have made a quite nice Big Sky Prospect!
 
Mslacat said:
Turd Ferguson said:
Can someone explain what is so special about this kid? Is it simply the fact that he committed early?

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=67550

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2933193

You make a point in that the kid is only a Junior to be, but one thing to remember the pages you posted most of the info on their has not been updated since his freshman year. The other thing to remember though how many big sky recruits have been followed by both Scout.com and Rivals.com? The answer is not many. Both organizations did not have a prospect page (like you posted above) on Selvig or Howard until the end of their junior year. Hasquet never got one until mid way through his senior year and that was only on Scout.com. Strait mid way thru his junior year. I could go on. Just consider these stats he had playing in Arizona's highest school division.

- 17.7 point a game, 9 rebounds 4 assits, 2 steals, 2 blocks. (and playing with the top Sophomore prospect on his team)

- 64% shooting from 3 point land for the season! The best in Arizona no matter class or school size.

- 66% shooing from 2 point land.

_ Not only does he shoot the three with accuracy but he does from deep beyond the NBA 3 point range.

- At 6-6 he plays mostly shooting guard, and he is said to still be growing

- He has a 4.4 GPA on a 4.0 system

- Scout .com has him a top 12 prospect at the small forward

- Rivals has him as one of the top 200 prospects in 2009 (142 to be exact)



Now rating will shift up and down on athletes as time goes on but he certainly does look like a good catch. As a matter of fact just coming out of his Sophmore year I think with the above stats I think he would have made a quite nice Big Sky Prospect!

Where are you getting that? Both the profiles say he's unranked.

He looks like a good player. The fact that he still has 2 years of HS left could be a good or bad thing though. Either he can get a lot better and end up at MSU, or have a change of heart when Pac-10 coaches start calling. That's a hard decision to make for a 16 year old.
 
If he is as advertised the big programs are going to be on him. It won't surprise me if he ends up elsewhere. It isn't like it hasn't happenned before. I hope they get him, would be fun beating the cats when they have a guy like that. Kind of like we did to EWU and Stuckey although this kid is no Stuckey, not even close.
 
Grizbacker1 said:
If he is as advertised the big programs are going to be on him. It won't surprise me if he ends up elsewhere. It isn't like it hasn't happenned before. I hope they get him, would be fun beating the cats when they have a guy like that. Kind of like we did to EWU and Stuckey although this kid is no Stuckey, not even close.

Your right, this kid plays defense :)
 
WILD_CAT said:
Grizbacker1 said:
If he is as advertised the big programs are going to be on him. It won't surprise me if he ends up elsewhere. It isn't like it hasn't happenned before. I hope they get him, would be fun beating the cats when they have a guy like that. Kind of like we did to EWU and Stuckey although this kid is no Stuckey, not even close.

Your right, this kid plays defense :)

Which is why he'll declare himself eligible for the nba draft after his freshman year and go higher than 19th in the first round. :tounge:
 
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