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Maroon Silver Scrimmages
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TrueGriz
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grizzlyjournal said:
It was a 6 minute period where it was the "probables" versus the "possibles" as Decuire put it. the silver team had all the new players on it, no veterans. Score ended up 9 - 2 in favor of maroon. Bobby Moorehead made his one shot during this 6 minute period.
here is the link to the box score for the 6 minute period:
https://gogriz.com/documents/2018/10/23//scrim1.pdf
then they reset and played two 12 minute halves with players mixed up. Bobby Moorehead did not score during this part of the scrimmage. the box score you posted is correct which is for the real scrimmage of two 12 minute halves.
here is the box score for the main scrimmage:
https://gogriz.com/documents/2018/10/23//Scrim_2.pdf
grizzlyjournal
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GRIZ SCRIMMAGE: General first Impressions.
1. In a six-minute session before the actual scrimmage, coaches started: Jamar Akoh (PF), Bobby Moorehead (W), Sayeed Pridgett (F), Michael Oguine (SG) and first reserves Timmy Falls (G), Donaven Dorsey (W) and Kelby Kramer (C) in what might be Montana's initial 8-man rotation. This rotation outscored the reserves 19-2 in a six-minute pre-session.
2. Players who showed the most potential for cracking into that 8-man rotation could be freshmen Eddy Egun (G) and Ben Carter (C). They could also be candidates for redshirt, as could be Mack Anderson (C) and Freddy Brown (G). Transfers Kendal Manuel and Tony Miller are not eligible until next year. Sophmore power forward Peter Jones played played approx 7 minutes, scoring on a rebound and putback and grabbing a rebound. He is a strong, solid player, with good potential, and could well work his way up as an important reserve.
3. Montana's defense -- particularly its half-court trapping pressure -- was intense. All signs show that they're taking up where they finished last season. Play was very physical and almost chippy. Refs stopped play a couple of times to tone things down a bit. Despite the intensity, cameradie was high and congenial.
4. I could not determine how (or who) the team will designate to replace departed Fabijan Kryslovic (they may not need to). All four backup low-block players (Kramer, Carter, Anderson and Jones) have unique "big man" skills. It might take most of the pre-season for one player to work his way into a steady role. The player who surprised me most with his skill is Carter. He's still learning the Griz play book, but rebounds and moves well (has good footwork) and maintains a solid base.
5. This is a deep, deep team. If eligible, both Manuel and Miller could contribute immediately. Frosh Eddy Egun is a sophisticated, intense defender and made a big-time shot stuff late in the game. He has a wide floor base and very quick footwork: he does not defend like a typical frosh (which is meant as a high compliment). Freddy Brown is quick, smooth and a quick-draw shooter from the perimeter, but I see him as an ideal rs candidate.
6. This team is fit. The front seven are lean, muscular, sinewy and carry themselves like they have something to prove. Donaven Dorsey is close and -- though he said earlier this fall that he isn't quite "game ready," showed remarkable inside-outside versatility. On defense he played very physically; on offense, he played in the blocks with a wide post base until he moved to the perimeter where he seemed very comfortable with a long-range corner shot (though his accuracy was off). Kelby Kramer had a quiet scrimmage, but is an imposing low-block presence. I think he needs competitive game experience. The top six ALL showed evidence of a full summer of hard work. Oguine and Rorie have each added new twists to their offensive attack and both showed signs of dribbling through (and around) defense traps with more of an attack approach. Falls and Moorehead have both stepped up their defensive approach. Both are elite defenders with good vision and instincts. Both showed increased physical intensity. Both had several pass deflections and/or steals. On offense, both appear to have worked hard on ball control and driving skill. Falls had a couple of quick-step drives that were impressive. Pridgett seems (to me) primed for a break-out season. He seems to thrive on versatility. He snared seven rebounds, converted two for short buckets, and seemed to own the paint on the offensive end. He defended larger players early on, and held his own. I can envision him as a leading rebounder this season, but also envision him as capable of upping his offensive output. Remarkably, Akoh seemed to have made the most visible changes to his physique. Still an imposing force, he seems to have trimmed down somewhat. He's that rare low-block player who doesn't need to play above the rim to be effective and tonight showed several shot-feint/step-through pivots for easy shots under the bucket. Though he has a low power-crouch base, his shot is hard to block from behind. He moved to the high post several times tonight, and drove effectively several times. Pound-for-pound, muscle-for-muscle, I think Akoh is one of the strongest Grizzly big men I've had the opportunity to watch (Steve Vanek? John Stroeder? Larry Krystkowiak?)
7. This may be that rare team where 4-5-6 players can regularly score in double digits. It also may be a team where the first-line subs might be leading scorers.
8. This team appears built to defend well against quick teams with outside scoring versatility. Not yet answered is whether this team can match up well with teams that have a large front court with 2 high scoring low post players. That, however, is not intended as a criticism, but as an opportunity. The top-seven players on this team are pretty set in stone. If a low-block younger player can step up as a defender/rebounder, this Montana Griz team has the potential to be one of the very best.
Go Griz!
1. In a six-minute session before the actual scrimmage, coaches started: Jamar Akoh (PF), Bobby Moorehead (W), Sayeed Pridgett (F), Michael Oguine (SG) and first reserves Timmy Falls (G), Donaven Dorsey (W) and Kelby Kramer (C) in what might be Montana's initial 8-man rotation. This rotation outscored the reserves 19-2 in a six-minute pre-session.
2. Players who showed the most potential for cracking into that 8-man rotation could be freshmen Eddy Egun (G) and Ben Carter (C). They could also be candidates for redshirt, as could be Mack Anderson (C) and Freddy Brown (G). Transfers Kendal Manuel and Tony Miller are not eligible until next year. Sophmore power forward Peter Jones played played approx 7 minutes, scoring on a rebound and putback and grabbing a rebound. He is a strong, solid player, with good potential, and could well work his way up as an important reserve.
3. Montana's defense -- particularly its half-court trapping pressure -- was intense. All signs show that they're taking up where they finished last season. Play was very physical and almost chippy. Refs stopped play a couple of times to tone things down a bit. Despite the intensity, cameradie was high and congenial.
4. I could not determine how (or who) the team will designate to replace departed Fabijan Kryslovic (they may not need to). All four backup low-block players (Kramer, Carter, Anderson and Jones) have unique "big man" skills. It might take most of the pre-season for one player to work his way into a steady role. The player who surprised me most with his skill is Carter. He's still learning the Griz play book, but rebounds and moves well (has good footwork) and maintains a solid base.
5. This is a deep, deep team. If eligible, both Manuel and Miller could contribute immediately. Frosh Eddy Egun is a sophisticated, intense defender and made a big-time shot stuff late in the game. He has a wide floor base and very quick footwork: he does not defend like a typical frosh (which is meant as a high compliment). Freddy Brown is quick, smooth and a quick-draw shooter from the perimeter, but I see him as an ideal rs candidate.
6. This team is fit. The front seven are lean, muscular, sinewy and carry themselves like they have something to prove. Donaven Dorsey is close and -- though he said earlier this fall that he isn't quite "game ready," showed remarkable inside-outside versatility. On defense he played very physically; on offense, he played in the blocks with a wide post base until he moved to the perimeter where he seemed very comfortable with a long-range corner shot (though his accuracy was off). Kelby Kramer had a quiet scrimmage, but is an imposing low-block presence. I think he needs competitive game experience. The top six ALL showed evidence of a full summer of hard work. Oguine and Rorie have each added new twists to their offensive attack and both showed signs of dribbling through (and around) defense traps with more of an attack approach. Falls and Moorehead have both stepped up their defensive approach. Both are elite defenders with good vision and instincts. Both showed increased physical intensity. Both had several pass deflections and/or steals. On offense, both appear to have worked hard on ball control and driving skill. Falls had a couple of quick-step drives that were impressive. Pridgett seems (to me) primed for a break-out season. He seems to thrive on versatility. He snared seven rebounds, converted two for short buckets, and seemed to own the paint on the offensive end. He defended larger players early on, and held his own. I can envision him as a leading rebounder this season, but also envision him as capable of upping his offensive output. Remarkably, Akoh seemed to have made the most visible changes to his physique. Still an imposing force, he seems to have trimmed down somewhat. He's that rare low-block player who doesn't need to play above the rim to be effective and tonight showed several shot-feint/step-through pivots for easy shots under the bucket. Though he has a low power-crouch base, his shot is hard to block from behind. He moved to the high post several times tonight, and drove effectively several times. Pound-for-pound, muscle-for-muscle, I think Akoh is one of the strongest Grizzly big men I've had the opportunity to watch (Steve Vanek? John Stroeder? Larry Krystkowiak?)
7. This may be that rare team where 4-5-6 players can regularly score in double digits. It also may be a team where the first-line subs might be leading scorers.
8. This team appears built to defend well against quick teams with outside scoring versatility. Not yet answered is whether this team can match up well with teams that have a large front court with 2 high scoring low post players. That, however, is not intended as a criticism, but as an opportunity. The top-seven players on this team are pretty set in stone. If a low-block younger player can step up as a defender/rebounder, this Montana Griz team has the potential to be one of the very best.
Go Griz!
Colter_Nuanez56
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A nice quick hitting recap of the Maroon-Silver scrimmages for the Lady Griz and Griz from Andrew Houghton
Opening sequence of Maroon-Silver scrimmage impressive for Griz men's hoops
https://skylinesportsmt.com/opening-sequence-of-maroon-silver-scrimmage-impressive-for-griz-mens-hoops/
Opening sequence of Maroon-Silver scrimmage impressive for Griz men's hoops
https://skylinesportsmt.com/opening-sequence-of-maroon-silver-scrimmage-impressive-for-griz-mens-hoops/
grizzlyjournal said:
Thanks Journal. Extensive, informative and much appreciated. You're becoming the Brint Wahlberg of the basketball board!
My own dot'n'dash hash:
--A year ago, Kelby Kramer stood out in this game. People were raving about his athleticism. With the added weight and experience, I looked for him to emerge big-time this season. Not saying he won't, but it doesn't seem he did last night.
--I hope we go to a ten-man rotation. I know we got away with eight--then seven--last year, but we also avoided the elephant in the room in any season, the injury bug. I personally hope one of the freshman bigs--Carter or Anderson--is in the rotation. We'll need their height, especially against Weber and the Power-5 teams.
--Did we get a steal in Eddy Egun?
--Three-point shooting: Ugh! One hope here was Freddy Brown, but it looks like he'll redshirt. That must improve, as I have ranted ad-nauseum on this board. Three-point shooting is no longer a luxury. You must have it in your arsenal.
My observations as a fan who has seen a lot of seasons but who admittedly doesn't appreciate the nuances of the game:
Mack Anderson is a prize. He is a big who doesn't look like a freshman. But, it would still be best if he redshirted for a year and put on a little strength without losing the quickness. I was impressed with his ability to block shots and to run the floor on the break with the guards. The folks in Bozeman will kick themselves every time they come up against him. He is a bit shorter than Daren Engellant but looks to me to be as talented. Daren never had the luxury of a redshirt season - I hope that Mack gets that.
Eddy Egun looks a lot like Michael Oguine did as a freshman. Michael was probably a better leaper at that point but Eddy is 2 inches taller. He plays with a great attitude and lot of skill.
Akoh seems a lot sneakier and deceptive that last year - I like it.
One the women's team,
Sammy Fatkin will be a fine addition at the guard although she has to redshirt as a transfer. I can see Sammy and Sophia Stiles as the backcourt of the future.
Guard Katie Mayhue is probably too good to redshirt, although we are in pretty good shape for guards this year.
Gabi Harrington (sophomore from Boise) is back after a redshirt year and playing with a lot of intensity.
The returners all look like they had a good off-season and are better prepared for the year.
Carmen Gfeller seems to be physically ahead of Kylie Frohlick and Jordan Schweyen - Jordan seems to like the corner to shoot the 3 ball.
Abby Anderson is intriguing as a redshirt freshman post. I am predicting that she will come on strong and be a factor as the season goes on.
Mack Anderson is a prize. He is a big who doesn't look like a freshman. But, it would still be best if he redshirted for a year and put on a little strength without losing the quickness. I was impressed with his ability to block shots and to run the floor on the break with the guards. The folks in Bozeman will kick themselves every time they come up against him. He is a bit shorter than Daren Engellant but looks to me to be as talented. Daren never had the luxury of a redshirt season - I hope that Mack gets that.
Eddy Egun looks a lot like Michael Oguine did as a freshman. Michael was probably a better leaper at that point but Eddy is 2 inches taller. He plays with a great attitude and lot of skill.
Akoh seems a lot sneakier and deceptive that last year - I like it.
One the women's team,
Sammy Fatkin will be a fine addition at the guard although she has to redshirt as a transfer. I can see Sammy and Sophia Stiles as the backcourt of the future.
Guard Katie Mayhue is probably too good to redshirt, although we are in pretty good shape for guards this year.
Gabi Harrington (sophomore from Boise) is back after a redshirt year and playing with a lot of intensity.
The returners all look like they had a good off-season and are better prepared for the year.
Carmen Gfeller seems to be physically ahead of Kylie Frohlick and Jordan Schweyen - Jordan seems to like the corner to shoot the 3 ball.
Abby Anderson is intriguing as a redshirt freshman post. I am predicting that she will come on strong and be a factor as the season goes on.