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Keron Deshields - Lighting It Up - Tenn St.
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Tennessee State lost to Tennessee 69-74PlayerRep said:
Mousegriz said:
At the time of that statement, Wright was shooting under 19% from 3, much lower overall, had 36 or fewer assists, and was averaging a few points less. WW has really come on in recent games, especially in 3 of the 4 conference games. I doubt that he will shoot 75% from 3 the rest of the season, but who knows. By the way, how do these stats compare with your son's stats? You said he's playing college ball, didn't you?
UMGriz75
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Last night, Walter Wright shot just 45% FG, and 0% 3-ptrs. He got 3 of 4 FT, for 75%. Just 1 assist. He played the longest of the entire team, 38 minutes. Second highest scorer though with 13 points. Breunig first with 22; Moorehead third with 12, Oguine with 11.PlayerRep said:
Potomac Griz
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Not big on comparing two players who are at different stages in their career, one of which is in his first year of D1 ball and transitioning quite nicely to the D1 game. Plus had KD stayed here in Montana (I wish he had) he would have been a senior last year and wouldn't be playing this year. So I don't get why we are talking about who contributes (or could have) more.
I liked KD a lot as a Griz. I wish we had him last year. We could have used his ability to create his own shots and keep us in games when we went through those lulls where we couldn't seem to score. He was responsible for getting us going again on offense in many games his final year with the Griz.
For example. Remember the game at home against PSU that went to overtime? How many points did the Griz have in that overtime? 13. How many points did DeShields have in that overtime. 11. He also got the layup that tied the game and sent it into overtime. I wish we had him last year for that added offense and intensity he provided.
Also, I like Wright a lot as our current PG. He's come a long ways and is turning into the PG that DeCuire wants him to be, with still the ability to create his own shot and score as needed. Early on his assist numbers may not have been great but he was getting players open looks. As DeCuire said in the post game show after several games Wright could have easily had 7 or 8 assists had people made a decent percentage of the open shots he was getting them. Unfortunately the Griz as a whole struggled big time shooting in non-conference against D1 teams.
Also... Bashing a conference that's typically much better rated in terms of RPI than the Big Sky in an attempt to make KD's accomplishments seem less impressive is flat out silly. As is bashing Wright for lower assist numbers when we couldn't throw it in the ocean when we had wide open looks.
And finally, why does this discussion whether it's about how good DeShields is playing or how good Wright is playing have to turn into a "bash Walter Wright" or "bash Keron DeShields" thing? Seriously... Grow the fuck up children. Or at least take it to PMs so the Griz BB fans who do more than fight on the forums can discuss basketball and not have to read this bullshit.
We are lucky both chose to be Montana Grizzlies, even for a little while. KD for his first 3 years and Wright hopefully for his final 2 years. Both are very talented and bring a set of abilities to the Griz that made (or are making) the Griz a very talented team. There's no need to fly off and bash one because you're a bigger fan of the other. Both had (and will have) great games, both had (and will have) bad games, both had (and will have) mediocre games. It's two players playing different schedules in different stages of their careers. Cherry picking games to bash either player, making comments about the quality of competition or anything like that is just silly. You can heap praise on one player's accomplishments without bashing another player. Seriously... Knock it off.
Note how I didn't mention any posters names in my above post. If what I said offends you then it probably applies to you and you should grow the f' up. The rest of us Griz fans will likely continue rooting for both of them to have great success. I know I will!
I hope KD leads his team to the NCAA tournament! They are having a hell of a year compared to the type of success they've had recently. They've already doubled the amount of wins they had in conference last year (they are 4-0 now, including a win over SIU-Edwardsville who beat PSU by 10) and have more than doubled their total wins from last year. They were 5-26 last year and 2-14 in conference. They are 13-4 right now and 4-0 in conference. They've won more games this year with the help of KD than they have in the past 2 years combined... (5-25 in the 2013-2014 season). DeShields is a HUGE reason for their success this year and I guarantee you they are incredibly happy that they have him, just like we would have been last year had he stuck around!
As for Wright, of course I hope the Griz are right there in the tournament too! The Griz are looking good at 5-0 in conference right now including 3 road wins (all road wins are huge in the Big Sky). Wright is leading the team out there, breaking ankles, and there's little wonder as to why he's playing damn near every minute. DeCuire trusts him running the show. He's averaging 16 points (#15 in the Big Sky), 6.6 assists (#2 in the Big Sky) and 37.8 minutes per game (#2 in the Big Sky) in conference. We're lucky to have him and he's a great example of the the type of quality recruit DeCuire is going to be bringing to the Griz!
I liked KD a lot as a Griz. I wish we had him last year. We could have used his ability to create his own shots and keep us in games when we went through those lulls where we couldn't seem to score. He was responsible for getting us going again on offense in many games his final year with the Griz.
For example. Remember the game at home against PSU that went to overtime? How many points did the Griz have in that overtime? 13. How many points did DeShields have in that overtime. 11. He also got the layup that tied the game and sent it into overtime. I wish we had him last year for that added offense and intensity he provided.
Also, I like Wright a lot as our current PG. He's come a long ways and is turning into the PG that DeCuire wants him to be, with still the ability to create his own shot and score as needed. Early on his assist numbers may not have been great but he was getting players open looks. As DeCuire said in the post game show after several games Wright could have easily had 7 or 8 assists had people made a decent percentage of the open shots he was getting them. Unfortunately the Griz as a whole struggled big time shooting in non-conference against D1 teams.
Also... Bashing a conference that's typically much better rated in terms of RPI than the Big Sky in an attempt to make KD's accomplishments seem less impressive is flat out silly. As is bashing Wright for lower assist numbers when we couldn't throw it in the ocean when we had wide open looks.
And finally, why does this discussion whether it's about how good DeShields is playing or how good Wright is playing have to turn into a "bash Walter Wright" or "bash Keron DeShields" thing? Seriously... Grow the fuck up children. Or at least take it to PMs so the Griz BB fans who do more than fight on the forums can discuss basketball and not have to read this bullshit.
We are lucky both chose to be Montana Grizzlies, even for a little while. KD for his first 3 years and Wright hopefully for his final 2 years. Both are very talented and bring a set of abilities to the Griz that made (or are making) the Griz a very talented team. There's no need to fly off and bash one because you're a bigger fan of the other. Both had (and will have) great games, both had (and will have) bad games, both had (and will have) mediocre games. It's two players playing different schedules in different stages of their careers. Cherry picking games to bash either player, making comments about the quality of competition or anything like that is just silly. You can heap praise on one player's accomplishments without bashing another player. Seriously... Knock it off.
Note how I didn't mention any posters names in my above post. If what I said offends you then it probably applies to you and you should grow the f' up. The rest of us Griz fans will likely continue rooting for both of them to have great success. I know I will!
I hope KD leads his team to the NCAA tournament! They are having a hell of a year compared to the type of success they've had recently. They've already doubled the amount of wins they had in conference last year (they are 4-0 now, including a win over SIU-Edwardsville who beat PSU by 10) and have more than doubled their total wins from last year. They were 5-26 last year and 2-14 in conference. They are 13-4 right now and 4-0 in conference. They've won more games this year with the help of KD than they have in the past 2 years combined... (5-25 in the 2013-2014 season). DeShields is a HUGE reason for their success this year and I guarantee you they are incredibly happy that they have him, just like we would have been last year had he stuck around!
As for Wright, of course I hope the Griz are right there in the tournament too! The Griz are looking good at 5-0 in conference right now including 3 road wins (all road wins are huge in the Big Sky). Wright is leading the team out there, breaking ankles, and there's little wonder as to why he's playing damn near every minute. DeCuire trusts him running the show. He's averaging 16 points (#15 in the Big Sky), 6.6 assists (#2 in the Big Sky) and 37.8 minutes per game (#2 in the Big Sky) in conference. We're lucky to have him and he's a great example of the the type of quality recruit DeCuire is going to be bringing to the Griz!
Potomac Griz said:
Why don't you quote and link the posts that "bashed" WW? I don't recall any post being even remotely close to bashing him. In fact, most posts praise him. Posting statistics of players and games, and comparing players and games, is hardly "bashing" anyone.
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mtgrizrule
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I respect all the regular basketball posters here. I do enjoy the basketball forum much more than the the football, because there is not very much stupid drama. I feel some of the jabbing back and forth did take some away from the forum. I wish it had not become a Wright verses DeShields thread.
Keron moved on and apparently is happy. I wanted him to stay aboard and not sure about all the details behind his leaving. I know Wayne Tinkle did everything he could to help Keron remain a GRIZ. Wayne going out of his way for Keron, that alone tells me all I need to know, as to the kind of person Keron is. I was happy to have him as a GRIZ. I met Keron and spoke to him a few times after games. He was a pretty cool guy.
I am also very happy to have Wright here now. The progress he has made as a leader and playmaker is terrific. He is unbelievably low key and mellow off the court. At least that was the impression I got the little I spoke to him after the Sac State game.
Keron moved on and apparently is happy. I wanted him to stay aboard and not sure about all the details behind his leaving. I know Wayne Tinkle did everything he could to help Keron remain a GRIZ. Wayne going out of his way for Keron, that alone tells me all I need to know, as to the kind of person Keron is. I was happy to have him as a GRIZ. I met Keron and spoke to him a few times after games. He was a pretty cool guy.
I am also very happy to have Wright here now. The progress he has made as a leader and playmaker is terrific. He is unbelievably low key and mellow off the court. At least that was the impression I got the little I spoke to him after the Sac State game.
grizzlyjournal
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Potomac Griz said:
Very well said, Potomac! The best we courtside coaches can do is to support them and all other players wholeheartedly. Our forum contents will certainly include some criticism, but I think it's best to do so from a starting point as Griz fans.
Potomac Griz
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BDizzle said:
Very cool for KD and Tennessee state. What a turnaround. They've won 14 games so far this year which is 4 more than they won in the previous two seasons combined. They are 5-1 in conference this year with their only loss so far being a 103-95 loss to Belmont @Belmont where DeShields had 33 points. Anyone who follows college BB knows Belmont is a hell of a team and a frequent participant in the NCAA tournament.
If they continue at the pace they're going and do fairly well in the OVC they may have the best season they've had since they had since the 50s. KD has definitely played a HUGE part in their success, averaging over 16 points a game for them.
Would be awesome to see both Tenn St. and the Griz in the NCAA tournament this year making some noise. Sure as hell wish we had him last year to snap us out of some scoring funks. Glad he's lighting it up at Tenn St. this year though :thumb:
Potomac Griz
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PlayerRep said:
The 37 point game was actually in a loss @Tennessee Tech (a damn good team, #2 in the OVC) but still very impressive obviously. Two 30+ point games in a row for DeShields against the top two teams in the OVC (@Belmont & @Tenn Tech).
Hell of a turn around for Tenn State. From 5 wins each of the last 2 seasons up to 15 so far this season. Three transfers this season have had a huge impact for them.
Keron DeShields - G (from Montana obviously):
16.9 pts (Leads the team), 3.7reb, 3.0 assists, 1.3 steals
Tahjere McCall - G (transfer from Niagara):
13.9 pts, 5.6reb, 3.2 assists, 2.3steals
Wayne Martin - F (transfer from ST. Francis-Brooklyn):
12.0 pts, 10.1reb, 1.3blocks
Looking at the stats DeShields is their go to guy and the one on the court the most for them (averaging 33.6 mins a game, no one else is above 28.6). Hell of a senior season for him! Leading a team that was once the bottom of the OVC to being one of the best OVC teams.
Hope they find a wya to make it to the NCAA tournament this year. That would be pretty sweet having both DeShield's team and the Griz in the NCAA tournament
Potomac Griz
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Also wanted to add...from their forums:
"Deshields is a baller!"
"Deshields is keeping us in this game. " (Hm...that sounds familiar from a few Griz games)
Some major hype:
"Vanvleet and baker who?? By the end of the season DeShields and McCall will be the premiere back court in the nation. They handle it as smooth as a knife cutting butter. "
Agreeing with the above poster:
"Agree with Sterling about DeShields and McCall."
Again..something that sounds pretty familiar (to me anyway since DeShields kept the Griz under control many times and kept them in it when the offense was sputtering):
"McCall is a baller and fills the stat sheet, but the key to this team is Deshields. He's the calm leader and best decision maker. He controls how fast and slow the Tigers play. Lets enjoy him in his lone season as a Tiger, 'cause I'm not sure who on our roster can duplicate what he's doing.
Those are just a few examples. Their forum isn't incredibly active, but there's a lot of love for Keron over there and rightfully so.
I still can't help but think how last season would have gone if we still had him... His experience and ability to create his own shot, get to the rim and get things under control would have been VERY valuable last year in many games (including the tournament game against EWU). Oh well... dammit
"Deshields is a baller!"
"Deshields is keeping us in this game. " (Hm...that sounds familiar from a few Griz games)
Some major hype:
"Vanvleet and baker who?? By the end of the season DeShields and McCall will be the premiere back court in the nation. They handle it as smooth as a knife cutting butter. "
Agreeing with the above poster:
"Agree with Sterling about DeShields and McCall."
Again..something that sounds pretty familiar (to me anyway since DeShields kept the Griz under control many times and kept them in it when the offense was sputtering):
"McCall is a baller and fills the stat sheet, but the key to this team is Deshields. He's the calm leader and best decision maker. He controls how fast and slow the Tigers play. Lets enjoy him in his lone season as a Tiger, 'cause I'm not sure who on our roster can duplicate what he's doing.
Those are just a few examples. Their forum isn't incredibly active, but there's a lot of love for Keron over there and rightfully so.
I still can't help but think how last season would have gone if we still had him... His experience and ability to create his own shot, get to the rim and get things under control would have been VERY valuable last year in many games (including the tournament game against EWU). Oh well... dammit
