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JJ Trial

mtgrizrule said:
Go read Jim Oday's fb page. Someone comments something like "too bad 2 good people lost their jobs over this." J O D comments back more than 2 did.

There is so much more we don't know. I wonder what more will be uncovered behind this, and the dismissals. I have a feeling, GRIZNATION has not heard the end of this, and the politics behind everything over the last few years.
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mtgrizrule, for us older farts that dont fb, can you give us a run down please?
 
So, during her closing argument Boylan starts off by saying "this isn't he said, she said" but then later, while discussing what constitutes sex without consent, she says that the two stories differ on whether or not consent was given. Nice contradiction there.

Edit: And, no, I'm not Fwen Glorio, who just tweeted the same observation.
 
Anyone else nervous as hell right now? Is it weird that I have butterflies? Can't imagine how JJ must be feeling.
 
B: We all have myths about sexual assault. #johnsontrial Lisak didn't need to know facts of this case because science is science



That kind of sounds like a spokaneman argument.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Even if stats are science (though calling something a science far from makes it so), would you at least agree that the study purporting to quantify unreported rapes is not statistically reliable, and even less scientific? It seems like that is the main point here.
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I am not calling it a science just to raise hackle here... it is indeed a science...

Would I agree that it is not statistically reliable? No... I cannot say that as I do not know the scientific study and the data that was used to form the conclusions... But, we seem to come up with some pretty accurate polls without calling all 300+ million of the population...

But I can say this... IF this study used proper methods and data, and IF the conclusions are accepted by the scientific community, then I will assume that there is some validity to the study. That said, for the sake of argument, lets say that this study was 50% inaccurate (which is a HUGE margin in the scientific community).. that would provide us with only 4 out of 1000 are falsely accused vs the 2 of 1000 as reported... Still tremendous odds for those who say they were falsely accused...
 
PolsonGrizFan said:
Anyone know if there is a time limit? How long does Boylan have?
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If this argument of strange behavior, confusion, and basically being "anxiety state, unspecified" is considered evidence and can explain away all of the contradictions and lies, then in reality there would be no defense, and no need for a trial. Any woman could call rape and there would be no defense.
 
NorthEndZoneDan said:
mtgrizrule said:
Go read Jim Oday's fb page. Someone comments something like "too bad 2 good people lost their jobs over this." J O D comments back more than 2 did.

There is so much more we don't know. I wonder what more will be uncovered behind this, and the dismissals. I have a feeling, GRIZNATION has not heard the end of this, and the politics behind everything over the last few years.
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mtgrizrule, for us older farts that dont fb, can you give us a run down please?
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O'Day responded with: "I can tell you it's a lot more than two..." suggesting that more than just himself and Pflu lost their jobs over this case.
 
B: evidence at trial does not show woman was 'hungry for relationship with star quarterback' #JohnsonTrial

so i guess the, "Jordy, I'd do you anytime." statement was not admitted.
 
SouthDakotaGrizzly said:
So, during her closing argument Boylan starts off by saying "this isn't he said, she said" but then later, while discussing what constitutes sex without consent, she says that the two stories differ on whether or not consent was given. Nice contradiction there.

Edit: And, no, I'm not Fwen Glorio, who just tweeted the same observation.
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Emily Foster ‏@emilyABCFOXMT
B: she told him no clearly, sternly #JohnsonTrial he said, turn over or I'll make you

The prosectuion can't even keep their closing arguments in a straight line.
 
biga75 said:
SouthDakotaGrizzly said:
So, during her closing argument Boylan starts off by saying "this isn't he said, she said" but then later, while discussing what constitutes sex without consent, she says that the two stories differ on whether or not consent was given. Nice contradiction there.

Edit: And, no, I'm not Fwen Glorio, who just tweeted the same observation.
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Emily Foster ‏@emilyABCFOXMT
B: she told him no clearly, sternly #JohnsonTrial he said, turn over or I'll make you

The prosectuion can't even keep their closing arguments in a straight line.
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WTF How can this woman say it isn't a he said she said and then give this closing argument?
 
PolsonGrizFan said:
B: evidence at trial does not show woman was 'hungry for relationship with star quarterback' #JohnsonTrial

so i guess the, "Jordy, I'd do you anytime." statement was not admitted.
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Was there proof that it was even said at all??.... sounds like an egriz quote if you ask me...
 
It almost seems like they're telling an entirely different story during closing arguments that was told throughout the rest of the trial
 
spokaneman said:
PolsonGrizFan said:
B: evidence at trial does not show woman was 'hungry for relationship with star quarterback' #JohnsonTrial

so i guess the, "Jordy, I'd do you anytime." statement was not admitted.
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Was there proof that it was even said at all??.... sounds like an egriz quote if you ask me...
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It's in the motion to acquit last August dickhead. Go away!
 
Everything this woman is saying and every witness she is talking about was completely torn apart by the defense. Paolis closing should be good.
 
PolsonGrizFan said:
spokaneman said:
PolsonGrizFan said:
B: evidence at trial does not show woman was 'hungry for relationship with star quarterback' #JohnsonTrial

so i guess the, "Jordy, I'd do you anytime." statement was not admitted.
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Was there proof that it was even said at all??.... sounds like an egriz quote if you ask me...
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It's in the motion to acquit last August dickhead. Go away!
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Oh OOOOOO - name calling will get you warned!!
 
Again, Boylan says "this isn't he said, she said" right after she admits that the evidence in this case (such as the clothing, blanket, etc) has little value because we already know that they had sex. Is she really going to convince the jury that this is anything but he said, she said?
 
spokaneman said:
PolsonGrizFan said:
spokaneman said:
PolsonGrizFan said:
B: evidence at trial does not show woman was 'hungry for relationship with star quarterback' #JohnsonTrial

so i guess the, "Jordy, I'd do you anytime." statement was not admitted.
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Was there proof that it was even said at all??.... sounds like an egriz quote if you ask me...
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It's in the motion to acquit last August dickhead. Go away!
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Oh OOOOOO - name calling will get you warned!!
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The defense's only mistake was in not disqualifying this judge; to deny the defense the chance to make a motion to dismiss at the end of the state's case is outrageous. How can the county attorney abdicate his responsibility to a politically motivated vounteer prosecutor?? Part of the whole checks and balances is that the ELECTED county attorney or his deputies prosecute a case; then its his nuts on the chopping block and is a good motivator to prevent this bizaar scenario we now have, thank you and good day; your friend, yogi
 
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