JJ Trial

[Griz2k]

Seems Jane Doe and the roommate differ on what happened after she came out of her room. When she testified, she said she did not make a snack. Today the roommate (Green) says he remembers her making a snack. Interesting I thought.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Am I the only person that feels like this Green roommate is inconsistent as f***??

Just when I think he's helping the accuser's story, Paoli gets him to change his story...

Paoli is the man as a defense attorney. So far every person on that stand has been reduced to having nothing to help the prosecution. The DR even left the stand with people thinking "I don't know/neutral" result.

The "feel" of this case has become almost surreal. The State has all these high-powered lawyers from the County, the State, and the private law firm seeking bad publicity by contributing pro bono
to help convict a star athlete charged with dubious charges, and THIS is what they have so far?

This case sure looks like it will help Paoli and Pabst professionally. They have done one hell of a job. I think the prosecution has done as good as they can with what they have to work with. I wonder if they are questioning the good of bringing in this so called "expert" and if it helped at all? Certainly did not help enough for them to be happy with the result. Can some official later comment after the case is over, why this case went to trial? Providing it continues to go in the direction it has so far.

I have not seen one thing that makes me even think, JJ possibly did anything wrong by law. So far, the only thing wrong was a wrong decision by he and her.

 

[Special K]

You people are hilarious, getting so involved in this 3-ringed circus. If this kid were not the star QB of the football team, this would have been thrown out of court and never gone to trial. I will bet anyone on here $1000 right now that JJ is acquitted. Any takers?

 

[wbtfg]

Seems Jane Doe and the roommate differ on what happened after she came out of her room. When she testified, she said she did not make a snack. Today the roommate (Green) says he remembers her making a snack. Interesting I thought.

Is her roommate rex ryan?

 

[Ursa Major]

Am I the only person that feels like this Green roommate is inconsistent as f***??

Just when I think he's helping the accuser's story, Paoli gets him to change his story...

Paoli is the man as a defense attorney. So far every person on that stand has been reduced to having nothing to help the prosecution. The DR even left the stand with people thinking "I don't know/neutral" result.

The "feel" of this case has become almost surreal. The State has all these high-powered lawyers from the County, the State, and the private law firm seeking bad publicity by contributing pro bono
to help convict a star athlete charged with dubious charges, and THIS is what they have so far?

This case sure looks like it will help Paoli and Pabst professionally. They have done one hell of a job. I think the prosecution has done as good as the can with what they have to work with. Can some official later comment after the case is over, why this case went to trial? Providing it continues to go in the direction it has so far.

I have not seen one thing that makes me even think, JJ possibly did anything wrong by law. So far, the only thing wrong was a wrong decision by he and her.

There is more evidence and testimony yet to come that could sway the jury (e.g. the pictures of the marks on her body).

 

[zengriz]

...when johnson getz through with thiz...
...he mite not care about football anymore...
...who could say that they would blame the kid...

... ...

 

[mtgrizrule]

Paoli is the man as a defense attorney. So far every person on that stand has been reduced to having nothing to help the prosecution. The DR even left the stand with people thinking "I don't know/neutral" result.

The "feel" of this case has become almost surreal. The State has all these high-powered lawyers from the County, the State, and the private law firm seeking bad publicity by contributing pro bono
to help convict a star athlete charged with dubious charges, and THIS is what they have so far?

This case sure looks like it will help Paoli and Pabst professionally. They have done one hell of a job. I think the prosecution has done as good as the can with what they have to work with. Can some official later comment after the case is over, why this case went to trial? Providing it continues to go in the direction it has so far.

I have not seen one thing that makes me even think, JJ possibly did anything wrong by law. So far, the only thing wrong was a wrong decision by he and her.

There is more evidence and testimony yet to come that could sway the jury (e.g. the pictures of the marks on her body).

True, and they better be pretty damning to JJ. I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but during consensual sex I have left with body marks from the intensity of the experience. They better hope the marks are those that can be proven from more than sex.

I am not an expert on body marks. Serious ?, how does the prosecution prove those marks were from sex without consent, verses sex with consent?

 

[grizfnz]

Paoli is the man as a defense attorney. So far every person on that stand has been reduced to having nothing to help the prosecution. The DR even left the stand with people thinking "I don't know/neutral" result.

The "feel" of this case has become almost surreal. The State has all these high-powered lawyers from the County, the State, and the private law firm seeking bad publicity by contributing pro bono
to help convict a star athlete charged with dubious charges, and THIS is what they have so far?

This case sure looks like it will help Paoli and Pabst professionally. They have done one hell of a job. I think the prosecution has done as good as the can with what they have to work with. Can some official later comment after the case is over, why this case went to trial? Providing it continues to go in the direction it has so far.

I have not seen one thing that makes me even think, JJ possibly did anything wrong by law. So far, the only thing wrong was a wrong decision by he and her.

There is more evidence and testimony yet to come that could sway the jury (e.g. the pictures of the marks on her body).

As the defense I would offer up the fact that she was in the company of 2 other men (room mate and friend she gave a ride to) between the time she and JJ were together and her visit to the clinic.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Buddy of mine, texted me, "will this case make court tv one day?" He has been following this case via twitter too.

 

[NikeGrizz]

So if JJ is found innocent and decides to return to football what happens? Is he considered a walk on because his scholarship has already been used up, or has it? How would all of that work out?

 

[grizfan95]

So if JJ is found innocent and decides to return to football what happens? Is he considered a walk on because his scholarship has already been used up, or has it? How would all of that work out?

I believe his scholarship has been respected during this time.

 

[mtgrizrule]

So if JJ is found innocent and decides to return to football what happens? Is he considered a walk on because his scholarship has already been used up, or has it? How would all of that work out?

I believe his scholarship has been respected during this time.

On scholarship through the spring semester.

 

[Griz2k]

Seems Jane Doe and the roommate differ on what happened after she came out of her room. When she testified, she said she did not make a snack. Today the roommate (Green) says he remembers her making a snack. Interesting I thought.

Is her roommate rex ryan?

Ha! Wait, I don't get it.

 

[Ursa Major]

The "feel" of this case has become almost surreal. The State has all these high-powered lawyers from the County, the State, and the private law firm seeking bad publicity by contributing pro bono
to help convict a star athlete charged with dubious charges, and THIS is what they have so far?

This case sure looks like it will help Paoli and Pabst professionally. They have done one hell of a job. I think the prosecution has done as good as the can with what they have to work with. Can some official later comment after the case is over, why this case went to trial? Providing it continues to go in the direction it has so far.

I have not seen one thing that makes me even think, JJ possibly did anything wrong by law. So far, the only thing wrong was a wrong decision by he and her.

There is more evidence and testimony yet to come that could sway the jury (e.g. the pictures of the marks on her body).

True, and they better be pretty damning to JJ. I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but during consensual sex I have left with body marks from the intensity of the experience. They better hope the marks are those that can be proven from more than sex.

I am not an expert on body marks. Serious ?, how does the prosecution prove those marks were from sex without consent, verses sex with consent?

Good Question. If I'm on the defense team I'm hoping a few of the jurors have woken up with marks from consensual sex too.

 

[GoosetownGriz]

The State is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't, regardless of the outcome of this case.

Only because they let the DOJ bully them into it. They could've told them to go to hell and given the trial so far that's exactly what they should have done.

I don't know how it works with federal grants and earmarkes monies, but I think that the DOJ holds some power over the State, for right or for wrong. I definitely think they felt pressured, but no matter what FVV did, someone was going to be up his ass.

I think you are right on the $!


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[stubbins]

Note to self...if ever accused of a false crime that ruins my life, hire Paoli. Eating the state alive right now. Pabst did as well with the good Dr. Lisak....

 

[PTGrizzly]

Seems Jane Doe and the roommate differ on what happened after she came out of her room. When she testified, she said she did not make a snack. Today the roommate (Green) says he remembers her making a snack. Interesting I thought.

Is her roommate rex ryan?

Ha! Wait, I don't get it.

I'm not sure what's more funny...the joke, or you not getting the joke.

 

[mtgrizrule]

This case sure looks like it will help Paoli and Pabst professionally. They have done one hell of a job. I think the prosecution has done as good as the can with what they have to work with. Can some official later comment after the case is over, why this case went to trial? Providing it continues to go in the direction it has so far.

I have not seen one thing that makes me even think, JJ possibly did anything wrong by law. So far, the only thing wrong was a wrong decision by he and her.

There is more evidence and testimony yet to come that could sway the jury (e.g. the pictures of the marks on her body).

True, and they better be pretty damning to JJ. I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but during consensual sex I have left with body marks from the intensity of the experience. They better hope the marks are those that can be proven from more than sex.

I am not an expert on body marks. Serious ?, how does the prosecution prove those marks were from sex without consent, verses sex with consent?

Good Question. If I'm on the defense team I'm hoping a few of the jurors have woken up with marks from consensual sex too.

I am sure most guys have. Women dig their nails in, on the shoulders, neck and chest.

 

[UMGriz75]

And based on this movie I once saw, one of the lawyers "couldn't handle the truth." I am not certain which movie that was, but I think it helps explain the context of what is going on here in Missoula.

A Few Good Men.

The movie was loosely based upon the real-life trials of Navy JAG attorneys Don Marcari and former New Mexico United States Attorney David Inglesias.

The "Lawyer," by the way, won against the government lawyers (the State) in a prosecution of someone unjustly accused, based on his refusal to believe the testimony of a key witness.

Nice catch; the analogy is appropriate.

 

[UMGriz75]

I am sure most guys have. Women dig their nails in, on the shoulders, neck and chest.

One of my kids came home a couple of years ago, and was taking off his shirt, and I practically grabbed him and took off for the emergency room. Looked like he'd been run through a combine.

He said he was just fine. Pretty happy actually. Had a really good date, if I needed to ask ....