JJ Trial

[tnt]

Montana Kaimin ‏@KaiminNews
Jordan Tripp, Brock Coyle and a few other Grizzly football players have joined the audience. #JohnsonTrial

Coach Ty Gregorak is there as well

That shows some real class (waiting until after the accuser was off the stand) while still standing by JJ.

:stupid:

Okay then they were jerks for showing up when they did., if that makes you happy. (but i still think it showed class)

 

[Jerry Punch]

I can't. This Trial by Twitter is unprecedented in my lifetime. It makes for some interesting cultural observations.

 

[EverettGriz]

I eagerly await the "not-guilty" verdict that this trial seems to be inexorably marching toward, if for no other reason than the crying and gnashing of teeth that will take place on bcn.

I may have to re-join for a few days just to enjoy it.

 

[Zootown Rox]

If I'm on the jury and hear these statements:

"Paoli: How did you say no? Baby talk? W: Yes. Playful."

"Paoli: Did you assist in any way? W: Yeah, but it was because I gave up."

"Women: I did assist him but it's because I gave up. Paoli: assisting him required a volitional act on your part? She said yes."

Then it's game over.

I'm now thinking that it's beyond a reasonable doubt that she is a tease and this was consensual. Which sucks because sex abuse is an issue in this town, not to the extent that the witch hunt has portrayed it as, but it is an issue and this is just a bad case. Really lame that this even got to trial with testimony like that, and hopefully won't discourage other victims from coming forward when they really do get raped.

 

[Jerry Punch]

I eagerly await the "not-guilty" verdict that this trial seems to be inexorably marching toward, if for no other reason than the crying and gnashing of teeth that will take place on bcn.

I may have to re-join for a few days just to enjoy it.

False. I urge you to point to any comments on BCN where Cat fans are hoping for a guilty verdict.

 

[tnt]

I'm having trouble with a PI being at the house within a week of the incident. No restraining order no complaint filed no nothing.

 

[spokaneman]

Here's Little Miss Muffet running around trying to establish that last year, "all on her own," to prove ... something. And she's calling high priced civil litigation lawyers. She "just wanted information." And she all of a sudden knows that a key to a successful civil suit is a "serial" situation. And so she's out there, combing the social networks. And of course if she can prove a serial situation, and UM didn't know, or investigate properly or do anything about it, there can be a basis for negligence ... "ChaChing!"

But, she couldn't find anything. So, no civil suit..

Do you honestly think for a moment that IF she had wanted to file a civil suit against UM, that UM would not settle that out of court in a second??.. There is AMPLE evidence for a civil suit against UM but that clearly is not her goal...

"Little Miss Muffet"???.. how callus are you? The girls obviously feels that she had been raped and this is how you "Montana Men" treat her???...

I was going to say "I hope you don't have girls..." but who are we kidding?? To call her "Little Miss Muffet tells me that you are a 50 something social misfit trolling from your mothers basement completely incapable of not only fathering children but lack the caring and compassion of how to nurture them as well.....

Little Miss Muffet indeed... is there a spider who could throw a football in this story somewhere?

 

[EverettGriz]

I eagerly await the "not-guilty" verdict that this trial seems to be inexorably marching toward, if for no other reason than the crying and gnashing of teeth that will take place on bcn.

I may have to re-join for a few days just to enjoy it.

False. I urge you to point to any comments on BCN where Cat fans are hoping for a guilty verdict.

That's a little difficult to do when I don't visit the site.

However, there are more than enough posting on here openly hoping for a guilty verdict, so my presumption would be there are plenty there doing the same.

 

[grizpack]

I'm having trouble with a PI being at the house within a week of the incident. No restraining order no complaint filed no nothing.

I read a tweet from someone (can't remember who), that said that JJ had received a letter from Couture within a week of the incident.

 

[Jerry Punch]

I eagerly await the "not-guilty" verdict that this trial seems to be inexorably marching toward, if for no other reason than the crying and gnashing of teeth that will take place on bcn.

I may have to re-join for a few days just to enjoy it.

False. I urge you to point to any comments on BCN where Cat fans are hoping for a guilty verdict.

That's a little difficult to do when I don't visit the site.

However, there are more than enough posting on here openly hoping for a guilty verdict, so my presumption would be there are plenty there doing the same.

Where? I have NEVER said I was hoping for a guilty verdict. But you can imagine it if it helps you dislike me.

 

[JBS]

I eagerly await the "not-guilty" verdict that this trial seems to be inexorably marching toward, if for no other reason than the crying and gnashing of teeth that will take place on bcn.

I may have to re-join for a few days just to enjoy it.

Since there is only about 11 people on BN, i think the total of teeth that could be gnashing is about 3. There will be buckets of tears, however.

 

[UMGriz75]

Of course you're not being objective. You think her movie choices have to do with her psychological condition.

Of course not.

I think that people who profess that "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is their favorite movie are just perfectly normal people, too, just like those who like to watch with their dates, "Faces of Death."

Just perfectly normal people.

Like you.

You stated earlier that her choice in movie was indicative of the context surrounding the night. Perhaps an educated, qualified, and unbiased expert may know the context of these situations better than you do?

You lost crediblity when you said "little Ms. Muffin" and pointed to her choice in film, quoting a summary of that film, and using it to support your position. I hope, dearly and sincerely, that Jordy's defense counsel will provide more legitimate context of their own than what you have shown.

Well, I'm looking at the trial, and the testimony, and you're much more interested in something else, and it's not "two young people." And I could really care less what you think, about my credibility, that opinion being primarily based on yours.

 

[Jerry Punch]

I eagerly await the "not-guilty" verdict that this trial seems to be inexorably marching toward, if for no other reason than the crying and gnashing of teeth that will take place on bcn.

I may have to re-join for a few days just to enjoy it.

Since there is only about 11 people on BN, i think the total of teeth that could be gnashing is about 3. There will be buckets of tears, however.

Why?

 

[Jerry Punch]

Good for you, UMGriz. I'm glad you are confident, if anything.

So, did the expert say something wrong? Did he say something you don't agree with? Why is his testimony and context less reliable than a movie?

 

[UMGriz75]

Here's Little Miss Muffet running around trying to establish that last year, "all on her own," to prove ... something. And she's calling high priced civil litigation lawyers. She "just wanted information." And she all of a sudden knows that a key to a successful civil suit is a "serial" situation. And so she's out there, combing the social networks. And of course if she can prove a serial situation, and UM didn't know, or investigate properly or do anything about it, there can be a basis for negligence ... "ChaChing!"

But, she couldn't find anything. So, no civil suit..

Do you honestly think for a moment that IF she had wanted to file a civil suit against UM, that UM would not settle that out of court in a second??.. There is AMPLE evidence for a civil suit against UM but that clearly is not her goal...

"Little Miss Muffet"???.. how callus are you? The girls obviously feels that she had been raped and this is how you "Montana Men" treat her???...

I was going to say "I hope you don't have girls..." but who are we kidding?? To call her "Little Miss Muffet tells me that you are a 50 something social misfit trolling from your mothers basement completely incapable of not only fathering children but lack the caring and compassion of how to nurture them as well.....

Little Miss Muffet indeed... is there a spider who could throw a football in this story somewhere?

I think there is a fairy tale element to this, yes. And it does not have a good ending.

 

[PTGrizzly]

Of course you're not being objective. You think her movie choices have to do with her psychological condition.

Of course not.

I think that people who profess that "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is their favorite movie are just perfectly normal people, too, just like those who like to watch with their dates, "Faces of Death."

Just perfectly normal people.

Like you.

Look, I think JJ is going to be innocent as well...but her movie choices have nothing to do with it. I enjoy horror movies, like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. That doesn't mean that I secretly want to kill people with a chainsaw or accuse people of doing so. You continually saying these types of things shows your bias, and quite frankly, it makes you look less intelligent than you actually are.

 

[UMGriz75]

Good for you, UMGriz. I'm glad you are confident, if anything.

So, did the expert say something wrong? Did he say something you don't agree with? Why is his testimony and context less reliable than a movie?

You're fascinated; intrigued, by the direct and specific comparison I made between the content of a movie, which sounds a bit like the reality, and the testimony of the psychologist.

Oh wait, I made no such comparison.

Well, that explains it, then, doesn't it?

 

[UMGriz75]

Of course you're not being objective. You think her movie choices have to do with her psychological condition.

Of course not.

I think that people who profess that "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is their favorite movie are just perfectly normal people, too, just like those who like to watch with their dates, "Faces of Death."

Just perfectly normal people.

Like you.

Look, I think JJ is going to be innocent as well...but her movie choices have nothing to do with it. I enjoy horror movies, like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. That doesn't mean that I secretly want to kill people with a chainsaw or accuse people of doing so. You continually saying these types of things shows your bias, and quite frankly, it makes you look less intelligent than you actually are.

The choice of movies is just as the prosecutor warned about various aspects of this case regarding the alleged victim and her behaviors: odd.

If an ax murderer was on trial, and his favorite movie just happened to be "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre," are you really claiming "gee, that was just a coincidence, it is not relevant at all?"

That doesn't mean that all who watch the movie are ax murderers. It doesn't mean that ax murderers who watch the movie aren't ax murderers, nor that they simply watched the movie as a coincidence ... and particularly if it was their favorite movie.

Even a psychologist papered with credentials making such a claim would be laughed out of court on that one.

Is it hugely relevant? Well, perhaps if he actually used a chainsaw ...

Trial puzzles are assembled from many small pieces. That's one of them.

 

[mcg]

Do you honestly think for a moment that IF she had wanted to file a civil suit against UM, that UM would not settle that out of court in a second??.. There is AMPLE evidence for a civil suit against UM but that clearly is not her goal...

What would be the basis for a civil suit against UM?

 

[Jerry Punch]

Wow. Wrong again. You've made no mention of the psychologist's testimony providing context for the case. You've only mentioned a movie to fill in the gaps, provide the context, and explain the situation at hand. Only of of these two backgrounds is admissible in a trial. It isn't the movie.

I'm fascinated. You're right. I'm fascinated, intrigued, and flabergasted that someone as intelligent as you would say that a movie starring Emma Stone provides context to this case.