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Interesting take on the Vick case....

SuperHornet

SuperHornet

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This is strictly from a football perspective. According to ESPN's NFL Live this afternoon, there is a feeling in Atlanta that the Vick case could end up at some point being the best thing that ever happened to the Falcon's offense. (That's MY spin on what was actually said.) Apparently, BP has brought in an offense that is better suited for a disciplined dropback passer than for one that takes off at the slightest provocation. In other words, Joey Harrington is a better fit for this offense than Vick. All this, of course, will take an entire season to bear out, especially given the way Harrington was blown out of Detroit and Miami with a career record 20 games below .500.

Makes sense to me, though. If I'm going to have a QB with the style that Vick has, I'm going to tailor the offense to take advantage of his unique talents and get backups that have a similar style so that there are no discontinuities if he goes down. (That theory is similar to having all QBs throwing with the same hand so that receivers don't get messed up by the change in ball rotation. I don't know if there's any real truth to that, but it HAS been floating around from the beginning of time.) It seems better to me than trying to force him to fit an offense patently unsuited to him like fitting a square peg in a round hole. I'm not so sure that Vick is as adaptable as, say, Steve Young, who did well in the West Coast Offense, but may have done better in an offense that pre-planned some QB carries.

Politics of the case aside, does this make any sense to you guys?
 
SuperHornet said:
This is strictly from a football perspective. According to ESPN's NFL Live this afternoon, there is a feeling in Atlanta that the Vick case could end up at some point being the best thing that ever happened to the Falcon's offense. (That's MY spin on what was actually said.) Apparently, BP has brought in an offense that is better suited for a disciplined dropback passer than for one that takes off at the slightest provocation. In other words, Joey Harrington is a better fit for this offense than Vick. All this, of course, will take an entire season to bear out, especially given the way Harrington was blown out of Detroit and Miami with a career record 20 games below .500.

Makes sense to me, though. If I'm going to have a QB with the style that Vick has, I'm going to tailor the offense to take advantage of his unique talents and get backups that have a similar style so that there are no discontinuities if he goes down. (That theory is similar to having all QBs throwing with the same hand so that receivers don't get messed up by the change in ball rotation. I don't know if there's any real truth to that, but it HAS been floating around from the beginning of time.) It seems better to me than trying to force him to fit an offense patently unsuited to him like fitting a square peg in a round hole. I'm not so sure that Vick is as adaptable as, say, Steve Young, who did well in the West Coast Offense, but may have done better in an offense that pre-planned some QB carries.

Politics of the case aside, does this make any sense to you guys?
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They should just tank the season and pick up Brian Brohm in next year's draft.
 
What? The son of a journeyman? Give me a break. I can't remember the name, but there's another Cardinal floating around the NFL that would make a better impact sooner.
 
AtHomeInTheDahlbergDen said:
SuperHornet said:
This is strictly from a football perspective. According to ESPN's NFL Live this afternoon, there is a feeling in Atlanta that the Vick case could end up at some point being the best thing that ever happened to the Falcon's offense. (That's MY spin on what was actually said.) Apparently, BP has brought in an offense that is better suited for a disciplined dropback passer than for one that takes off at the slightest provocation. In other words, Joey Harrington is a better fit for this offense than Vick. All this, of course, will take an entire season to bear out, especially given the way Harrington was blown out of Detroit and Miami with a career record 20 games below .500.

Makes sense to me, though. If I'm going to have a QB with the style that Vick has, I'm going to tailor the offense to take advantage of his unique talents and get backups that have a similar style so that there are no discontinuities if he goes down. (That theory is similar to having all QBs throwing with the same hand so that receivers don't get messed up by the change in ball rotation. I don't know if there's any real truth to that, but it HAS been floating around from the beginning of time.) It seems better to me than trying to force him to fit an offense patently unsuited to him like fitting a square peg in a round hole. I'm not so sure that Vick is as adaptable as, say, Steve Young, who did well in the West Coast Offense, but may have done better in an offense that pre-planned some QB carries.

Politics of the case aside, does this make any sense to you guys?
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They should just tank the season and pick up Brian Brohm in next year's draft.
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It seemed a little short-sighted to build the WHOLE franchise around Vick in the first place. Obviously, he's the face, but you can't design a whole offense around him. He has never proven what kind of leader and player he is on a consistent basis. If it wasn't for his running ability he'd be riding pine somewhere else, buying someone else's jersey. His arm is good, his accuracy is the worst I've seen in quite a while.. he needs to win games with things other than his feet. Maybe the Falcons will consider this a lesson learned and build a whole team, not a one man show.
 
SuperHornet said:
This is strictly from a football perspective. According to ESPN's NFL Live this afternoon, there is a feeling in Atlanta that the Vick case could end up at some point being the best thing that ever happened to the Falcon's offense. (That's MY spin on what was actually said.) Apparently, BP has brought in an offense that is better suited for a disciplined dropback passer than for one that takes off at the slightest provocation. In other words, Joey Harrington is a better fit for this offense than Vick. All this, of course, will take an entire season to bear out, especially given the way Harrington was blown out of Detroit and Miami with a career record 20 games below .500.

Makes sense to me, though. If I'm going to have a QB with the style that Vick has, I'm going to tailor the offense to take advantage of his unique talents and get backups that have a similar style so that there are no discontinuities if he goes down. (That theory is similar to having all QBs throwing with the same hand so that receivers don't get messed up by the change in ball rotation. I don't know if there's any real truth to that, but it HAS been floating around from the beginning of time.) It seems better to me than trying to force him to fit an offense patently unsuited to him like fitting a square peg in a round hole. I'm not so sure that Vick is as adaptable as, say, Steve Young, who did well in the West Coast Offense, but may have done better in an offense that pre-planned some QB carries.

Politics of the case aside, does this make any sense to you guys?
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i hope you right cause im a harrington fan and strong hate vick since the day he was drafted...was little wrong on the whole joey being a great qb but thats a different story and still can be proven correct with time
 
While I'm no fan of Harrington's, I'm not prepared at this point to say flat-out that he sucks. He played for a cr@ppy franchise with a cr@ppy GM in Detroit that had a yen for do-nothing WRs but not OL help, and then for a down-and-out Miami team that hasn't done anything since Marino retired. A change of scenery could be all that Harrington requires. A prime example would be the immortal Jim Plunkett, who was drummed out of New England and never had a shot in San Francisco before being picked up as a mere backup in Oakland, languishing behind the recently picked-up Dan Pastorini (acquired in a trade with the Oilers for an aging Ken Stabler). Then Pastorini broke his leg, and Plunkett proceeded to pick up the "broken" pieces, taking the Raiders to two Super Bowls AFTER the so-called "experts" said he was washed up. Heck, Brett Favre failed in Atlanta before hitting it big with Green Bay. John Unitas got cut by the Steelers before he made it with the Dolts. I know it's cliche, but even OJ Simpson and Michael Jordan were cut from their HS teams. It could very well be that the Vick case is the "broken leg" that Harrington needs to have a breakout year. Given the Falcons' receiving corps, a year or two should be enough to determine whether he's a diamond in the rough or a true bust.
 
SuperHornet said:
What? The son of a journeyman? Give me a break. I can't remember the name, but there's another Cardinal floating around the NFL that would make a better impact sooner.
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Stefan Lefors? Backup for the Carolina Panthers I think. Or used to be
 
Grizzlebeard said:
SuperHornet said:
What? The son of a journeyman? Give me a break. I can't remember the name, but there's another Cardinal floating around the NFL that would make a better impact sooner.
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Stefan Lefors? Backup for the Carolina Panthers I think. Or used to be
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Dave Ragone.
 
SuperHornet said:
While I'm no fan of Harrington's, I'm not prepared at this point to say flat-out that he sucks. He played for a cr@ppy franchise with a cr@ppy GM in Detroit that had a yen for do-nothing WRs but not OL help, and then for a down-and-out Miami team that hasn't done anything since Marino retired. A change of scenery could be all that Harrington requires. A prime example would be the immortal Jim Plunkett, who was drummed out of New England and never had a shot in San Francisco before being picked up as a mere backup in Oakland, languishing behind the recently picked-up Dan Pastorini (acquired in a trade with the Oilers for an aging Ken Stabler). Then Pastorini broke his leg, and Plunkett proceeded to pick up the "broken" pieces, taking the Raiders to two Super Bowls AFTER the so-called "experts" said he was washed up. Heck, Brett Favre failed in Atlanta before hitting it big with Green Bay. John Unitas got cut by the Steelers before he made it with the Dolts. I know it's cliche, but even OJ Simpson and Michael Jordan were cut from their HS teams. It could very well be that the Vick case is the "broken leg" that Harrington needs to have a breakout year. Given the Falcons' receiving corps, a year or two should be enough to determine whether he's a diamond in the rough or a true bust.
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How would you know whether he sucks or not? You are the same "genius" that said Joe Montana sucked.
 
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