Injection of Life

[GrizLA]

But if "beating the Cats is the most important thing you can do"...why would that other stuff matter?

I don't agree that it is. In Bozeman, Beating the Griz is #1, however, I believe conference championships, playoff berths, and being a title contender all rank higher than beating the Cats....

Careful....I floated that theory a couple days ago and got shouted down by the Stitt haters...

I don't believe for a minute that anybody hated Stitt, I really believe that everyone wanted him to be successful, however, that never came to be.

After all Griz football success is every fan's want.

Well, that may well be a long time coming. I was looking at the schedule for next year and thinking UM had a chance of 9-1or better. Now? I really do think Stitt deserved another year. Oh, well. That's life..

 

[twentythreeOh4]

How many failed NC chances will Hauck get this go-round?

You can’t win a NC unless you get there. It’s better to lose in the championship then miss the playoffs completely.

 

['68griz]

How many failed NC chances will Hauck get this go-round?

You can’t win a NC unless you get there. It’s better to lose in the championship then miss the playoffs completely.

I fully agree, but there were plenty of people who bitched endlessly about the fact that Bobby never won "the big one."

 

[GrizGuy]

First off, all the former players I’ve talked to are pumped Stitt is gone. Most wanted him fired after last years Cat debacle. We feel horrible for all the coaches because they really work harder than anyone putting is 12 hour days consistently. We all wanted him to succeed. The truth is that beating the Cats is the most important thing you can do. It was ingrained in us. 5-0 against the cats. When I’ve had run into guys from state that we beat it was absolutely the best knowing we beat there ass. Half were battles, half were bloodbaths.

To think that we are 30 something in the poles with the best of everything in FCS is crazy. When I was recruited we didn’t have stalls for toilets. Great coaching matters.

A great coach and teacher will turn our program around over night. Having a sound philosophy and teaching from sound principles will bring the defense back to top ten.

I'm all for this kind of fire, but I don't think beating the Cats is the "most important" thing you can do as a Griz. That's table stakes. That fire? Yes, that's great. But I hope the team thinks a little bigger than merely beating the Cats.

 

[GrizGuy]

How many failed NC chances will Hauck get this go-round?

You can’t win a NC unless you get there. It’s better to lose in the championship then miss the playoffs completely.

I fully agree, but there were plenty of people who bitched endlessly about the fact that Bobby never won "the big one."

And that was a fair question at the time.
The question this time is: Has Coach Hauck learned enough from his time post-UM to close the deal? Nobody knows...

 

[twentythreeOh4]

How many failed NC chances will Hauck get this go-round?

You can’t win a NC unless you get there. It’s better to lose in the championship then miss the playoffs completely.

I fully agree, but there were plenty of people who bitched endlessly about the fact that Bobby never won "the big one."

You are right. When Hauck came here, he followed some pretty successful coaches. Read and Glen each won a championship and Dennehy who came oh so close with a 14-1 year. Because of that I don’t think Hauck was appreciated for the success he had. Situation is different now. I think Montana fans will appreciate Hauck more, and I think Hauck might appreciate Montana a little more than he did the first time around.

 

[argh!]

First off, all the former players I’ve talked to are pumped Stitt is gone. Most wanted him fired after last years Cat debacle. We feel horrible for all the coaches because they really work harder than anyone putting is 12 hour days consistently. We all wanted him to succeed. The truth is that beating the Cats is the most important thing you can do. It was ingrained in us. 5-0 against the cats. When I’ve had run into guys from state that we beat it was absolutely the best knowing we beat there ass. Half were battles, half were bloodbaths.

To think that we are 30 something in the poles with the best of everything in FCS is crazy. When I was recruited we didn’t have stalls for toilets. Great coaching matters.

A great coach and teacher will turn our program around over night. Having a sound philosophy and teaching from sound principles will bring the defense back to top ten.

Thanks for coming on and helping us deal with these timid fans who are afraid to have their cheese moved and are willing to keep accepting mediocrity. Haslam is to be commended for doing the brave logical thing.

not everyone agrees with firing stitt, but then again, it doesn't seem like anyone is really that surprised or upset, either. i think the "timid fans" comment refers to the whiny little babies like you, who were going to take their ball and go home because everything wasn't going exactly the way they wanted it to go.

After 60 years I have that right. You should be half the Griz supporter I've been. Actually "timid fans" was pretty clear, referring to those intimidated by a change of the guard.

that would be your right after 6 minutes of being a supporter, too. and yeah, your meaning was clear, you considered anyone who, unlike you, reasoned that stitt had a good likliehood of better success with another year, was 'timid'. i know you can't admit that, but that is what it is, and you are still what i said, not to mention, using greenie's parlance, a 'bad fan'. the worst kind, really.

 

[PlayerRep]

How many failed NC chances will Hauck get this go-round?

You can’t win a NC unless you get there. It’s better to lose in the championship then miss the playoffs completely.

I fully agree, but there were plenty of people who bitched endlessly about the fact that Bobby never won "the big one."

And that was a fair question at the time.
The question this time is: Has Coach Hauck learned enough from his time post-UM to close the deal? Nobody knows...

Certainly not you. You don't know football and don't even follow the Griz.

 

[econ1]

Being a no discipline, bad calling offensive plays late in the game (including subordinate coaches) Stitt has shown he cannot handle and preform at the national level with the very good talent this Griz team has on it's roster. Good bye Stitt and company. Best of luck to ya. The Griz will be back nationally ranked and win again.

 

[Hawkeyebowhunter]

How many failed NC chances will Hauck get this go-round?

Good grief dude. You are so butthurt about stitt getting what he EARNED, that you would rather have him vs a coach that CONSISTENTLY got us deep into the playoffs, had a stellar record with teams that were tough and imposed their will on others????

 

[Hawkeyebowhunter]

So there have been many vocal non-supporters of Stitt, and understandably so. We all want what is best and we want the Griz to win.

With that being said, I have a question for you. How long does Hauck (or the next guy get). I don't think the Griz will be magically better with Hauck or a new coach (although im hopeful) in year 1 and maybe not Year 2. Are you guys going to be this vocal and crying for more change if Griz continue to struggle. Does new coach get same leash as Stitt or is it even shorter?

I think that all hinges on how he (Hauck or someone else) gets the team to play-especially in big games and against rivals. Also, does he recruit well in MT? Griz were obviously out coached and outplayed in '16. That level of coaching and play against the cats is what many feel was unacceptable. I felt the guys played much harder this year against the cats, but the feeling was still that the team was not pushed emotionally by Stitt. The idea that, "if you can't get up for a game like this yourself...." isn't good coaching. Especially in college. These are 18-22 year-old guys, they need the head coach to lead by example. If you looked at the energy level on the sidelines, it was clear to see msu had the excitement, the drive, and the emotion. We need our mojo back. If it is a "Montana guy" who understands the tradition and expectations, I would guess the leash is longer.

Thanks for the feedback, and I'd say that is fair. Kem, Spanky, TCC I'd love to hear your thoughts on this as you've been some of the most vocal on this.

I'm not such a believer in the importance of emotion as above. I'm more a believer in sound schemes and execution. As I posted in another thread, Stitt's offense is not built to sustain drives or control the ball. It is not dependable on the ground. It is not ideal in the RZ. It is focused on the big play, which Bob has found out are more difficult to achieve against good D1 defenses. His program is not built around excellence in defense or special teams. The result is clobbering weak teams but difficulty in winning big games against more worthy opponents. About 60% is all we were ever going to get.

If the choice is Hauck, he is about as opposite as can be. He lives for long drives that get into the end zone. He likes to keep the ball out of the hands of the opponent and his defense fresh. His offense is balanced; you cannot overload. He will go over the top more to keep the defense loose than to live off the results. His defense is sound, conservative, not taking risks like blitzes on 3rd and long. He will run the ball down your throat until you stop it and he will wear you down. He will win the special teams game every time. He has a lot of exposure to the MWC play and I believe he would bring that type of power spread offense. His teams will be prepared and keep mistakes to a minimum. A stronger disciplinarian. His teams always get better as the season progresses. He can attract very solid assistants, recruit well and put players into the NFL. He wins conf. championships and is competitive in the playoffs. Times are different than his first run, but so will he be. We would be lucky to get him back. If not, I hope we get a HC with a similar philosophy.

+50000

 

[dupuyer griz]

How do you get to 9-1?

Sept. 1 vs. Northern Iowa

Sept. 8 vs. Drake

Sept. 15 @ Western Illinois

Sept. 22 vs. Sac. St.

Sept. 29 @ Cal Poly

Oct. 6 vs. Portland St.

Oct. 13 @ N. Dakota

Oct. 20 — Bye

Oct. 27 vs. UC Davis

Nov. 3 @ S. Utah

Nov. 10 @ Idaho

Nov. 17 vs. Montana St.

There are 3 playoff teams and a team fresh out of FBS. UCD’s qb is one of the best out there and he’s going to be a year better. Sac cane on hot at the end. North Dakota won’t be missing 93 starters. I really don’t see the cats getting worse. I see 3 bad teams on that schedule right now. I see 3 wins 3 hopefully win and 5 where we’re going to really have to show up.


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[Fahque]

How do you get to 9-1?

Sept. 1 vs. Northern Iowa

Sept. 8 vs. Drake

Sept. 15 @ Western Illinois

Sept. 22 vs. Sac. St.

Sept. 29 @ Cal Poly

Oct. 6 vs. Portland St.

Oct. 13 @ N. Dakota

Oct. 20 — Bye

Oct. 27 vs. UC Davis

Nov. 3 @ S. Utah

Nov. 10 @ Idaho

Nov. 17 vs. Montana St.

Easy, beat 9 of the teams on that list.

 

[dupuyer griz]

How do you get to 9-1?

Sept. 1 vs. Northern Iowa

Sept. 8 vs. Drake

Sept. 15 @ Western Illinois

Sept. 22 vs. Sac. St.

Sept. 29 @ Cal Poly

Oct. 6 vs. Portland St.

Oct. 13 @ N. Dakota

Oct. 20 — Bye

Oct. 27 vs. UC Davis

Nov. 3 @ S. Utah

Nov. 10 @ Idaho

Nov. 17 vs. Montana St.

Easy, beat 9 of the teams on that list.

Ah shit I forgot about that option.


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[Griz#64]

Win all home games and split on the road. No Brainer

 

[GrizGuy]

You can’t win a NC unless you get there. It’s better to lose in the championship then miss the playoffs completely.

I fully agree, but there were plenty of people who bitched endlessly about the fact that Bobby never won "the big one."

And that was a fair question at the time.
The question this time is: Has Coach Hauck learned enough from his time post-UM to close the deal? Nobody knows...

Certainly not you. You don't know football and don't even follow the Griz.

Please. Talk to me like you know me sometime.