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If NMSU moved down to FCS....

NavyBlue

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I saw this article posted to a thread on the USU board.

http://www.alamogordonews.com/alamogordo-opinion/ci_23612737/wise-senator-wants-save-nmsu-football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If NMSU moved down to FCS would you like them to join the Big Sky? With 13 teams would there be room for them? Thoughts???

Here is a link to the full thread.

http://www.usufans.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27354" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
getgrizzy said:
absolutely. throw in idaho and utah state and we'd have a tidy 16-team league.

Not likely since USU is now in the Mountain West. Utah Valley University might be a good addition as a non-football member (they don't sponsor football). Seattle University is another school the Big Sky might try to get as a non-football school. Those two would balance out the Big Sky since there are two football-only members.
 
get'em_griz said:
Add NMSU, boot UNC. Big Sky becomes even better!

Weird as it may seem, there's more sports than football. And actually, UNC was quite decent at basketball a few years ago.
 
grizfan95 said:
get'em_griz said:
Add NMSU, boot UNC. Big Sky becomes even better!

Weird as it may seem, there's more sports than football. And actually, UNC was quite decent at basketball a few years ago.

Here are comparisons between these schools and their basketball programs since 2006.

Since joining the Big Sky in 2006:

Northern Colorado
2012-2013: 13-18, (10-10) BSC
2011-2012: 9-19, (5-11) BSC
2010-2011: 21-11, (13-3) BSC
2009-2010: 25-8, (12-4) BSC
2008-2009: 14-18, (8-8) BSC
2007-2008: 13-16, (6-10) BSC
2006-2007: 4-24, (2-14) BSC

NMSU since 2006:
2012-2013: 24-11, (14-4) WAC
2011-2012: 26-10, (10-4) WAC
2010-2011: 16-17, (9-7) WAC
2009-2010: 22-12, (11-5) WAC
2008-2009: 17-15, (9-7) WAC
2007-2008: 21-14, (12-4) WAC
2006-2007: 25-9, (11-5) WAC

Overall:
UNC: 99-114, (56-60) BSC - (2 winning seasons)
NMSU: 151-88, (76-36) WAC - (6 winning seasons)

I'd much rather have NMSU for football AND basketball. :coffee:
 
Big Sky basketball would be a deal breaker for NMSU. The school seems to be struggling with one step down in competition already. A second and third step down, would be too much.
 
get'em_griz said:
grizfan95 said:
get'em_griz said:
Add NMSU, boot UNC. Big Sky becomes even better!

Weird as it may seem, there's more sports than football. And actually, UNC was quite decent at basketball a few years ago.

Here are comparisons between these schools and their basketball programs since 2006.

Since joining the Big Sky in 2006:

Northern Colorado
2012-2013: 13-18, (10-10) BSC
2011-2012: 9-19, (5-11) BSC
2010-2011: 21-11, (13-3) BSC
2009-2010: 25-8, (12-4) BSC
2008-2009: 14-18, (8-8) BSC
2007-2008: 13-16, (6-10) BSC
2006-2007: 4-24, (2-14) BSC

NMSU since 2006:
2012-2013: 24-11, (14-4) WAC
2011-2012: 26-10, (10-4) WAC
2010-2011: 16-17, (9-7) WAC
2009-2010: 22-12, (11-5) WAC
2008-2009: 17-15, (9-7) WAC
2007-2008: 21-14, (12-4) WAC
2006-2007: 25-9, (11-5) WAC

Overall:
UNC: 99-114, (56-60) BSC - (2 winning seasons)
NMSU: 151-88, (76-36) WAC - (6 winning seasons)

I'd much rather have NMSU for football AND basketball. :coffee:

Never did I claim that NMSU's basketball program is worse than UNC's. I simply said that UNC has done a decent job of being in the mix for Big Sky basketball. More so, my point was that there's much more to a conference than the football teams.

If we're going to jump to conclusions, you were the one suggesting booting a team from a conference and replacing it with another, which has a 0% chance of occurring. :coffee:
 
grizfan95 said:
get'em_griz said:
grizfan95 said:
get'em_griz said:
Add NMSU, boot UNC. Big Sky becomes even better!

Weird as it may seem, there's more sports than football. And actually, UNC was quite decent at basketball a few years ago.

Here are comparisons between these schools and their basketball programs since 2006.

Since joining the Big Sky in 2006:

Northern Colorado
2012-2013: 13-18, (10-10) BSC
2011-2012: 9-19, (5-11) BSC
2010-2011: 21-11, (13-3) BSC
2009-2010: 25-8, (12-4) BSC
2008-2009: 14-18, (8-8) BSC
2007-2008: 13-16, (6-10) BSC
2006-2007: 4-24, (2-14) BSC

NMSU since 2006:
2012-2013: 24-11, (14-4) WAC
2011-2012: 26-10, (10-4) WAC
2010-2011: 16-17, (9-7) WAC
2009-2010: 22-12, (11-5) WAC
2008-2009: 17-15, (9-7) WAC
2007-2008: 21-14, (12-4) WAC
2006-2007: 25-9, (11-5) WAC

Overall:
UNC: 99-114, (56-60) BSC - (2 winning seasons)
NMSU: 151-88, (76-36) WAC - (6 winning seasons)

I'd much rather have NMSU for football AND basketball. :coffee:

Never did I claim that NMSU's basketball program is worse than UNC's. I simply said that UNC has done a decent job of being in the mix for Big Sky basketball. More so, my point was that there's much more to a conference than the football teams.

If we're going to jump to conclusions, you were the one suggesting booting a team from a conference and replacing it with another, which has a 0% chance of occurring. :coffee:

I agree with you that there is more to a conference than just football and this move won't happen. What I was trying to show is that the quality of basketball NMSU provides would be better for the conference much more-so than what UNC provides. The same thing could be said for other teams in the conference as well.
 
NavyBlue said:
I saw this article posted to a thread on the USU board.

http://www.alamogordonews.com/alamogordo-opinion/ci_23612737/wise-senator-wants-save-nmsu-football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If NMSU moved down to FCS would you like them to join the Big Sky? With 13 teams would there be room for them? Thoughts???

Here is a link to the full thread.

http://www.usufans.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27354" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bring them on. I am all for a place to go that has some amazing food on tap.
 
get'em_griz said:
grizfan95 said:
get'em_griz said:
Add NMSU, boot UNC. Big Sky becomes even better!

Weird as it may seem, there's more sports than football. And actually, UNC was quite decent at basketball a few years ago.

Here are comparisons between these schools and their basketball programs since 2006.

Since joining the Big Sky in 2006:

Northern Colorado
2012-2013: 13-18, (10-10) BSC
2011-2012: 9-19, (5-11) BSC
2010-2011: 21-11, (13-3) BSC
2009-2010: 25-8, (12-4) BSC
2008-2009: 14-18, (8-8) BSC
2007-2008: 13-16, (6-10) BSC
2006-2007: 4-24, (2-14) BSC

NMSU since 2006:
2012-2013: 24-11, (14-4) WAC
2011-2012: 26-10, (10-4) WAC
2010-2011: 16-17, (9-7) WAC
2009-2010: 22-12, (11-5) WAC
2008-2009: 17-15, (9-7) WAC
2007-2008: 21-14, (12-4) WAC
2006-2007: 25-9, (11-5) WAC

Overall:
UNC: 99-114, (56-60) BSC - (2 winning seasons)
NMSU: 151-88, (76-36) WAC - (6 winning seasons)

I'd much rather have NMSU for football AND basketball. :coffee:

That's truly an unfair comparison. We were a start-up D1 program during those years. Much more difficult to recruit, etc. NMSU has been established as a D1 program for how many years? It's impressive that we went to the tourney in that short of time after our transition.
 
Take this to the Bball forum, please. The point was NMSU would be a significant upgrade to UNC in football. Indisputable. This is a football forum.

You don't have to worry about UNC being bounced by the BSC as long as the Fool is the commissioner; he's the one that sold them to the presidents. The only example of any program being bounced by the BSC that I recall was charter member Gonzaga. The type of intelligent move the conference is known for.
 
NMSU would be a significant upgrade in EITHER sport

And they won't drop down.


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getgrizzy said:
absolutely. throw in idaho and utah state and we'd have a tidy 16-team league.

getgrizzly, get real: As a member of the MWC Utah State stands to bank about $2 million in TV contract money while in the BSC they could expect about....uhh...duh...mmm..
 
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