Idaho gets NCAA post season ban

[getgrizzy]

. Our current coach staff is VERY aware of the situation.

They sure are, so is the whole athletic department and compliance office. I have strong faith that they've been highly on top of it.

Part of the problem is the kids going off to the pros...... There isn't anything that a compliance office can do to keep them in school when their eligibility is up and the $$$$ are elsewhere. or the scholarships are done and the kid needs to come back on his own dime for a semester or so There needs to be some changes made First for compliance to make sure the kid gets done in 5 but also so the program doesn't get penalized for "success" part of the problem in our "bad year" is we had 7 kids if I recall right go to or at least try at the next level.

Eligible players leaving for the pros don't hurt the school's APR:

"The way the Academic Progress Rate is computed, schools get a point for players remaining academically eligible and another for "retention." Players staying on the team must score 930, or 93 percent of the possible points. If a player leaves for the pros, however, the retention point is no longer considered a possible point and the program is not penalized.

"If you become a professional, and you are eligible at the time you become a professional, we do not count retention at all," said Walter Harrison, president of the University of Hartford and chairman of the NCAA's Committee on Academic Performance. "So instead of having two possible points that term, you have one. So instead of having 1-for-2, you're a 1-for-1. It doesn't hurt your rate."

http://articles.courant.com/2012-04-07/sports/hc-walter-harrison-academics-0408-20120407_1_kentucky-roll-online-courses-academic-progress-rate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

based on that explanation it does hurt a.p.r.
120 out of 126 = 952
115 out of 121 = 950
the first line is if you lose six points but none leave early in good standing.
the second is if you lose six points but five leave early in good standing.

 

[NavyBlue]

Banning Idaho from the post season is like banning me from Kate Upton's bedroom. Potentially, a bad banishment, but not going to happen anyway, so no big loss.

 

[PlayerRep]

They sure are, so is the whole athletic department and compliance office. I have strong faith that they've been highly on top of it.

Part of the problem is the kids going off to the pros...... There isn't anything that a compliance office can do to keep them in school when their eligibility is up and the $$$$ are elsewhere. or the scholarships are done and the kid needs to come back on his own dime for a semester or so There needs to be some changes made First for compliance to make sure the kid gets done in 5 but also so the program doesn't get penalized for "success" part of the problem in our "bad year" is we had 7 kids if I recall right go to or at least try at the next level.

Eligible players leaving for the pros don't hurt the school's APR:

"The way the Academic Progress Rate is computed, schools get a point for players remaining academically eligible and another for "retention." Players staying on the team must score 930, or 93 percent of the possible points. If a player leaves for the pros, however, the retention point is no longer considered a possible point and the program is not penalized.

"If you become a professional, and you are eligible at the time you become a professional, we do not count retention at all," said Walter Harrison, president of the University of Hartford and chairman of the NCAA's Committee on Academic Performance. "So instead of having two possible points that term, you have one. So instead of having 1-for-2, you're a 1-for-1. It doesn't hurt your rate."

http://articles.courant.com/2012-04-07/sports/hc-walter-harrison-academics-0408-20120407_1_kentucky-roll-online-courses-academic-progress-rate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

based on that explanation it does hurt a.p.r.
120 out of 126 = 952
115 out of 121 = 950
the first line is if you lose six points but none leave early in good standing.
the second is if you lose six points but five leave early in good standing.

Nope. Possible points, i.e. the points the school could get based on the number of granted schollies (not possible schollies) are multiplied by 1000.

"Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one retention point for staying in school and one eligibility point for being academically eligible. A team’s total points are divided by points possible and then multiplied by one thousand to equal the team’s Academic Progress Rate score."

Also note that schollies are sometimes immediately given to another player. Also, under your scenario, not giving out all schollies every term would hurt apr. That's not the case.

Football has less problem with pro departures than basketball, because of the timing. The end of the season, or post-season play, is usually at or near the end of the semester/quarter. In basketball, the season is not at the end of a semester. While it's okay to withdraw from school before the school's withdrawal deadline, after the deadline, the player then has to finish that term of school in good standing. If the player drops out and starts going full time in prep for the NBA, then the school is penalized under APR.

 

[tnt]

I know its higher math PR but what is 952/1000. If you have enough fingers and toes what is 950/1000? I assume the red herring season is at peak on Flathead Lake

 

[PlayerRep]

I know its higher math PR but what is 952/1000. If you have enough fingers and toes what is 950/1000? I assume the red herring season is at peak on Flathead Lake

It's based on the number of scholarships actually being used. Obviously, schools that don't grant the number of authorized scholarships are not penalized by not using the maxium number. Using your incorrect view, Kentucky would never meet the basketball apr.

 

[tnt]

I know its higher math PR but what is 952/1000. If you have enough fingers and toes what is 950/1000? I assume the red herring season is at peak on Flathead Lake

It's based on the number of scholarships actually being used. Obviously, schools that don't grant the number of authorized scholarships are not penalized by not using the maxium number. Using your incorrect view, Kentucky would never meet the basketball apr.

Yup the red herring fishing must be great. Nobody said anything about any of that. Only the number of points earned divided by the number possible.

Are you feeling okay? I'm serious, this is clearly not one of your better efforts. Sometimes a good laxative helps.

 

[SaskGriz]

I know its higher math PR but what is 952/1000. If you have enough fingers and toes what is 950/1000? I assume the red herring season is at peak on Flathead Lake

It's based on the number of scholarships actually being used. Obviously, schools that don't grant the number of authorized scholarships are not penalized by not using the maxium number. Using your incorrect view, Kentucky would never meet the basketball apr.

I don't think the kids are at Kentucky AAU long enough to sharpen a pencil, let alone attend receive a grade. APR at that place means the month that they were last seen in Lexington.

 

[NLGrizFan]

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[statler & waldorf]

I thought they got a lifetime ban when they moved up in '96.

:thumb: :lol: Whitty. I like that.

 

[kemajic]

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Record against the University of Montana: 55-27-2

 

[CrunchGriz]

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Record against the University of Montana: 55-27-2

Record against the Griz since they moved up and became an FBS big-timer: 1-4, and they lost the last four in a row.