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[mtgriz]

3 and out means not executing.

Because they were predictable.

See, it's not rocket science.

How to explain Eli Gillman rumbling for 53 yards on a “very predictable” run play from his own 7 yard line? If you’re stumped, I’ll help you out. Execution. As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not a huge defender of BH. I’m hoping this season is his swan song. Criticizing the play calling in the second half based on after-the-fact outcomes is just disingenuous, in my opinion.

Do you lose games sometimes mitigating risk in the end game? Yes. But you also lose hands with pocket aces.

 

[3-7-77]

Disingenuous. Five syllable word. OMG!!!

 

[AZGrizFan]

Because they were predictable.

See, it's not rocket science.

How to explain Eli Gillman rumbling for 53 yards on a “very predictable” run play from his own 7 yard line? If you’re stumped, I’ll help you out. Execution. As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not a huge defender of BH. I’m hoping this season is his swan song. Criticizing the play calling in the second half based on after-the-fact outcomes is just disingenuous, in my opinion.

Do you lose games sometimes mitigating risk in the end game? Yes. But you also lose hands with pocket aces.

Now let me help YOU out: A running play literally two minutes into the 2nd quarter is not “predictable”. When you close out the game running on 11 of 13 plays…THAT is predictable. See the difference?

 

[mthoopsfan]

How to explain Eli Gillman rumbling for 53 yards on a “very predictable” run play from his own 7 yard line? If you’re stumped, I’ll help you out. Execution. As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not a huge defender of BH. I’m hoping this season is his swan song. Criticizing the play calling in the second half based on after-the-fact outcomes is just disingenuous, in my opinion.

Do you lose games sometimes mitigating risk in the end game? Yes. But you also lose hands with pocket aces.

Now let me help YOU out: A running play literally two minutes into the 2nd quarter is not “predictable”. When you close out the game running on 11 of 13 plays…THAT is predictable. See the difference?

Okay, help us out. Which of these 4th Q UM plays should have been called in a different manner?

4th Q:

Kneel down, to end game. 23-21.

1:45 to go - 4 runs, 3 by McDowell, turnover on downs at Idaho 34

Idaho scores TD at 1:47 to make it 23 - 21

5:48 to go starting at UM 25 - 25 -13 score - 2 Gilman runs, short completion, punt.

5:48, Ida scores TD to make it 23-15.

15 min to go - 4th Q, drives starts with score of 20-7 - from Idaho 42 - McDowell run, completed pass, McDowell run, 1st down;

McDowell run, 2 Ostmo runs, FG. 23-7. 16 point lead.

Play-calling is not built around not being predictable. It is built around around calling good plays for the situation, trying to pick up first downs, calling plays that will be successful, calling plays the O can execute, often taking time off clock and keeping clock running later in game, not taking too many chances while nursing a lead and trying to run the clock, not getting a TO, etc.

Note how many times later in the game, UM didn't even take the risk of a handoff. Just let McDowell keep it and run.

Note who won the game.

 

[mtgriz]

How to explain Eli Gillman rumbling for 53 yards on a “very predictable” run play from his own 7 yard line? If you’re stumped, I’ll help you out. Execution. As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not a huge defender of BH. I’m hoping this season is his swan song. Criticizing the play calling in the second half based on after-the-fact outcomes is just disingenuous, in my opinion.

Do you lose games sometimes mitigating risk in the end game? Yes. But you also lose hands with pocket aces.

Now let me help YOU out: A running play literally two minutes into the 2nd quarter is not “predictable”. When you close out the game running on 11 of 13 plays…THAT is predictable. See the difference?

It’s the play originating from the 7 yard line that makes it predictable. Not the quarter or the time on the clock. It worked because of execution.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Now let me help YOU out: A running play literally two minutes into the 2nd quarter is not “predictable”. When you close out the game running on 11 of 13 plays…THAT is predictable. See the difference?

It’s the play originating from the 7 yard line that makes it predictable. Not the quarter or the time on the clock. It worked because of execution.

To what do you attribute their inability to “execute” pretty much the entire 2nd half?

 

[bgbigdog]

Because they were predictable.

See, it's not rocket science.

How to explain Eli Gillman rumbling for 53 yards on a “very predictable” run play from his own 7 yard line? If you’re stumped, I’ll help you out. Execution. As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not a huge defender of BH. I’m hoping this season is his swan song. Criticizing the play calling in the second half based on after-the-fact outcomes is just disingenuous, in my opinion.

Do you lose games sometimes mitigating risk in the end game? Yes. But you also lose hands with pocket aces.

We would agree on the Hauck thing, but that's already in the rearview after the Idaho game. Along with the scouts on the players, formations, and tendencies, opposing teams know what Hauck is going to do when it comes to playing with the lead. That informs the opposing defensive coaches and how they lineup to play them from there on.

The criticism of the play calling is not to suggest that minimizing the chances for error isn't sound, it is under normal circumstances. The circumstances aren't normal. That's the point. In this case, you're playing one of the two best offenses in the conference, top ten within the FCS. Going away from what got you that twenty and then thirteen-point lead and thinking you'd just try to eat some clock and put it on the backs of the defense makes little sense. Idaho let #14 get behind them early in the first drive of the quarter. It was absolutely the right thing to do, go for the throat. You have to put teams like Idaho away to beat them most days. A thirteen-point lead is far from having th margin needed to "put them away." They didn't make a lot of fancy adjustments on defense, they just decided to handle their offense differently than they had until the three or four-minutes-to-go mark of the first half. The Griz defense played pretty well, but can you count on that always being the case given what you've seen this season? Or do you just keep the pedal to the metal? My point has been to trust what you see, and let the guys ball out. Trust them. Prevent offense and playing not to lose isn't always the best option.

 

[mthoopsfan]

It’s the play originating from the 7 yard line that makes it predictable. Not the quarter or the time on the clock. It worked because of execution.

To what do you attribute their inability to “execute” pretty much the entire 2nd half?

Poor execution. Only 19 plays, I think. One was a kneel down. 5 were at end of game when we were running the clock (and forcing timeouts) and making sure there wasn't a TO. On a couple of plays, the blocking broke down and we got sacked or lost yardage. Don't know, but someone wondered not having Walker hurt. Adjustments by Idaho. Better D execution by Idaho.

 

[mthoopsfan]

How to explain Eli Gillman rumbling for 53 yards on a “very predictable” run play from his own 7 yard line? If you’re stumped, I’ll help you out. Execution. As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not a huge defender of BH. I’m hoping this season is his swan song. Criticizing the play calling in the second half based on after-the-fact outcomes is just disingenuous, in my opinion.

Do you lose games sometimes mitigating risk in the end game? Yes. But you also lose hands with pocket aces.

We would agree on the Hauck thing, but that's already in the rearview after the Idaho game. Along with the scouts on the players, formations, and tendencies, opposing teams know what Hauck is going to do when it comes to playing with the lead. That informs the opposing defensive coaches and how they lineup to play them from there on.

The criticism of the play calling is not to suggest that minimizing the chances for error isn't sound, it is under normal circumstances. The circumstances aren't normal. That's the point. In this case, you're playing one of the two best offenses in the conference, top ten within the FCS. Going away from what got you that twenty and then thirteen-point lead and thinking you'd just try to eat some clock and put it on the backs of the defense makes little sense. Idaho let #14 get behind them early in the first drive of the quarter. It was absolutely the right thing to do, go for the throat. You have to put teams like Idaho away to beat them most days. A thirteen-point lead is far from having th margin needed to "put them away." They didn't make a lot of fancy adjustments on defense, they just decided to handle their offense differently than they had until the three or four-minutes-to-go mark of the first half. The Griz defense played pretty well, but can you count on that always being the case given what you've seen this season? Or do you just keep the pedal to the metal? My point has been to trust what you see, and let the guys ball out. Trust them. Prevent offense and playing not to lose isn't always the best option.

This makes a lot of sense. "Going away from what got you that twenty and then thirteen-point lead and thinking you'd just try to eat some clock and put it on the backs of the defense makes little sense." Playing like that is playing to win, not playing to lose.

 

[mtgriz]

It’s the play originating from the 7 yard line that makes it predictable. Not the quarter or the time on the clock. It worked because of execution.

To what do you attribute their inability to “execute” pretty much the entire 2nd half?

Just an educated guess, but I’d say some combination of fatigue, lack of focus, trying to do more than your 1/11th, overconfidence, opponent’s improved execution of their game plan, and yes, less imaginative play calling.

 

[AZGrizFan]

To what do you attribute their inability to “execute” pretty much the entire 2nd half?

Poor execution. Only 19 plays, I think. One was a kneel down. 5 were at end of game when we were running the clock (and forcing timeouts) and making sure there wasn't a TO. On a couple of plays, the blocking broke down and we got sacked or lost yardage. Don't know, but someone wondered not having Walker hurt. Adjustments by Idaho. Better D execution by Idaho.

Q:“To what do you attribute their inability to execute…”
A: “Poor execution”.

thank you your honor. No further questions. :lol: :lol: