How things like this can change a conference

[BadlandsGrizFan]

This was in the Dallas Morning News this morning and I thought it was interesting to look at and compare to what happened here at Montana.....

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesports/2016/06/29/carlton-texas-gaining-big-12-supremacy-reaping-benefits-baylor-departures?_ga=1.23179327.421729585.1441286740

I think its easy to forget how much success we were having with Phlugrad before our debacle.....it absolutely helped the rest of the Big Sky catch up for a couple years....

I do however believe Stitt has us on the right track as far as caliber of recruits and our program def is full speed ahead with all our new facility upgrades and the talent that is on the field....

Dont want to start an argument, just thought this article was interesting and thought some may enjoy and we can certainly relate to whats happened. Things are looking up for Texas again :thumb:

 

[get'em_griz]

This was in the Dallas Morning News this morning and I thought it was interesting to look at and compare to what happened here at Montana.....

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesports/2016/06/29/carlton-texas-gaining-big-12-supremacy-reaping-benefits-baylor-departures?_ga=1.23179327.421729585.1441286740

I think its easy to forget how much success we were having with Phlugrad before our debacle.....it absolutely helped the rest of the Big Sky catch up for a couple years....

I do however believe Stitt has us on the right track as far as caliber of recruits and our program def is full speed ahead with all our new facility upgrades and the talent that is on the field....

Dont want to start an argument, just thought this article was interesting and thought some may enjoy and we can certainly relate to whats happened. Things are looking up for Texas again :thumb:

I agree that we are back on track to being on top the Big Sky once again, but I think the issues Montana saw caused UM to fall back to the pack more than it did to help the rest of the Big Sky catch up. The only program to really take advantage over our struggles was EWU. When we had the success all those years on the national stage, we were the only team in the Big Sky to make any noise in the playoffs virtually every year. Since then, no Big Sky program has made a deep playoff run sans EWU's semifinal runs in 2012 and 2013. Montana is the only other team to make a semifinal appearance since then (2011).

Semifinal runs:
2013 - EWU
2012 - EWU
2011 - UM
2010 - EWU (National Champs)
2009 - UM (Runner Up)
2008 - UM (Runner Up)
2006 - UM
2004 - UM (Runner Up)
2001 - UM (National Champs)
2000 - UM (Runner Up)

 

[Grizbeer]

I think there is a parallel to UM's trend in Texas, but it isn't Baylor, it is UT - fans/boosters dissatisfied with not winning a NC every year, new coaches, and suddenly THE conference power is no longer. Note the slide started with Pflugrad, who had a roster with as much NFL talent as the Griz have had, coming off back to back national Championships, and couldn't win a BSC title or make the playoffs in 2010.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

I think there is a parallel to UM's trend in Texas, but it isn't Baylor, it is UT - fans/boosters dissatisfied with not winning a NC every year, new coaches, and suddenly THE conference power is no longer. Note the slide started with Pflugrad, who had a roster with as much NFL talent as the Griz have had, coming off back to back national Championships, and couldn't win a BSC title or make the playoffs in 2010.

But he made the Semi-finals in his second year. I don't know what happened his first year, but if memory serves me correctly, he had some of the same first-year-learing-to-be-head-coach problems that Stitt had last season.

As far as Texas goes, they made a very bad hire to replace Mack, just like we did in giving the old man three years. It takes a long time to recover from a bad coaching hire. Texas is definitely on the way back, and had a great recruiting year this year. We'll know after this season whether we also made a bad hire.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I think there is a parallel to UM's trend in Texas, but it isn't Baylor, it is UT - fans/boosters dissatisfied with not winning a NC every year, new coaches, and suddenly THE conference power is no longer. Note the slide started with Pflugrad, who had a roster with as much NFL talent as the Griz have had, coming off back to back national Championships, and couldn't win a BSC title or make the playoffs in 2010.

But he made the Semi-finals in his second year. I don't know what happened his first year, but if memory serves me correctly, he had some of the same first-year-learing-to-be-head-coach problems that Stitt had last season.

As far as Texas goes, they made a very bad hire to replace Mack, just like we did in giving the old man three years. It takes a long time to recover from a bad coaching hire. Texas is definitely on the way back, and had a great recruiting year this year. We'll know after this season whether we also made a bad hire.

You think Charlie Strong was a bad hire...and you think Stitt was a bad hire.....is there a coaching hire that you have liked???

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

I think there is a parallel to UM's trend in Texas, but it isn't Baylor, it is UT - fans/boosters dissatisfied with not winning a NC every year, new coaches, and suddenly THE conference power is no longer. Note the slide started with Pflugrad, who had a roster with as much NFL talent as the Griz have had, coming off back to back national Championships, and couldn't win a BSC title or make the playoffs in 2010.

But he made the Semi-finals in his second year. I don't know what happened his first year, but if memory serves me correctly, he had some of the same first-year-learing-to-be-head-coach problems that Stitt had last season.

As far as Texas goes, they made a very bad hire to replace Mack, just like we did in giving the old man three years. It takes a long time to recover from a bad coaching hire. Texas is definitely on the way back, and had a great recruiting year this year. We'll know after this season whether we also made a bad hire.

You think Charlie Strong was a bad hire...and you think Stitt was a bad hire.....is there a coaching hire that you have liked???

Charlie Strong??? Are you kidding me??? He has been a disaster for Texas.

 

[PhxGriz]

I think there is a parallel to UM's trend in Texas, but it isn't Baylor, it is UT - fans/boosters dissatisfied with not winning a NC every year, new coaches, and suddenly THE conference power is no longer. Note the slide started with Pflugrad, who had a roster with as much NFL talent as the Griz have had, coming off back to back national Championships, and couldn't win a BSC title or make the playoffs in 2010.

Didn't Justin Roper happen? Selle got hurt early and Roper took over.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I think there is a parallel to UM's trend in Texas, but it isn't Baylor, it is UT - fans/boosters dissatisfied with not winning a NC every year, new coaches, and suddenly THE conference power is no longer. Note the slide started with Pflugrad, who had a roster with as much NFL talent as the Griz have had, coming off back to back national Championships, and couldn't win a BSC title or make the playoffs in 2010.

But he made the Semi-finals in his second year. I don't know what happened his first year, but if memory serves me correctly, he had some of the same first-year-learing-to-be-head-coach problems that Stitt had last season.

As far as Texas goes, they made a very bad hire to replace Mack, just like we did in giving the old man three years. It takes a long time to recover from a bad coaching hire. Texas is definitely on the way back, and had a great recruiting year this year. We'll know after this season whether we also made a bad hire.

You think Charlie Strong was a bad hire...and you think Stitt was a bad hire.....is there a coaching hire that you have liked???

Charlie Strong??? Are you kidding me??? He has been a disaster for Texas.

Sure he has....if you judge him strictly on his win/loss record.

 

[Lakerhater]

But he made the Semi-finals in his second year. I don't know what happened his first year, but if memory serves me correctly, he had some of the same first-year-learing-to-be-head-coach problems that Stitt had last season.

As far as Texas goes, they made a very bad hire to replace Mack, just like we did in giving the old man three years. It takes a long time to recover from a bad coaching hire. Texas is definitely on the way back, and had a great recruiting year this year. We'll know after this season whether we also made a bad hire.

You think Charlie Strong was a bad hire...and you think Stitt was a bad hire.....is there a coaching hire that you have liked???

Charlie Strong??? Are you kidding me??? He has been a disaster for Texas.

Sure he has....if you judge him strictly on his win/loss record.

Wins and losses aren't everything......reports out of Austin reveal that Strong had players escorting Girls Scouts as they ventured door to door selling cookies.

 

[TxGriz]

I think there is a parallel to UM's trend in Texas, but it isn't Baylor, it is UT - fans/boosters dissatisfied with not winning a NC every year, new coaches, and suddenly THE conference power is no longer. Note the slide started with Pflugrad, who had a roster with as much NFL talent as the Griz have had, coming off back to back national Championships, and couldn't win a BSC title or make the playoffs in 2010.

But he made the Semi-finals in his second year. I don't know what happened his first year, but if memory serves me correctly, he had some of the same first-year-learing-to-be-head-coach problems that Stitt had last season.

As far as Texas goes, they made a very bad hire to replace Mack, just like we did in giving the old man three years. It takes a long time to recover from a bad coaching hire. Texas is definitely on the way back, and had a great recruiting year this year. We'll know after this season whether we also made a bad hire.

You think Charlie Strong was a bad hire...and you think Stitt was a bad hire.....is there a coaching hire that you have liked???

Charlie Strong??? Are you kidding me??? He has been a disaster for Texas.

The disaster at Texas was the lack of discipline to the point where it devolved into a country club atmosphere under Mack. The Texas OU game was a glimpse of what Charlie has done to reverse that culture there. Charlie has excelled in turning around the lack of discipline. The jury is still out on his ability to coach, but he had to overcome a lot just to be able to get to a point where he could do that.

 

[Allezchat]

But he made the Semi-finals in his second year. I don't know what happened his first year, but if memory serves me correctly, he had some of the same first-year-learing-to-be-head-coach problems that Stitt had last season.

As far as Texas goes, they made a very bad hire to replace Mack, just like we did in giving the old man three years. It takes a long time to recover from a bad coaching hire. Texas is definitely on the way back, and had a great recruiting year this year. We'll know after this season whether we also made a bad hire.

You think Charlie Strong was a bad hire...and you think Stitt was a bad hire.....is there a coaching hire that you have liked???

Charlie Strong??? Are you kidding me??? He has been a disaster for Texas.

The disaster at Texas was the lack of discipline to the point where it devolved into a country club atmosphere under Mack. The Texas OU game was a glimpse of what Charlie has done to reverse that culture there. Charlie has excelled in turning around the lack of discipline. The jury is still out on his ability to coach, but he had to overcome a lot just to be able to get to a point where he could do that.

This. He took over a bunch of entitled athletes that knew they could get away with anything.

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[BadlandsGrizFan]

But he made the Semi-finals in his second year. I don't know what happened his first year, but if memory serves me correctly, he had some of the same first-year-learing-to-be-head-coach problems that Stitt had last season.

As far as Texas goes, they made a very bad hire to replace Mack, just like we did in giving the old man three years. It takes a long time to recover from a bad coaching hire. Texas is definitely on the way back, and had a great recruiting year this year. We'll know after this season whether we also made a bad hire.

You think Charlie Strong was a bad hire...and you think Stitt was a bad hire.....is there a coaching hire that you have liked???

Charlie Strong??? Are you kidding me??? He has been a disaster for Texas.

The disaster at Texas was the lack of discipline to the point where it devolved into a country club atmosphere under Mack. The Texas OU game was a glimpse of what Charlie has done to reverse that culture there. Charlie has excelled in turning around the lack of discipline. The jury is still out on his ability to coach, but he had to overcome a lot just to be able to get to a point where he could do that.

Thank god...unlike Atl1 someone gets it. Charlie has pretty much gotten rid of all the cancer in the program...and in my opinion theyre on their way up again.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

But he made the Semi-finals in his second year. I don't know what happened his first year, but if memory serves me correctly, he had some of the same first-year-learing-to-be-head-coach problems that Stitt had last season.

As far as Texas goes, they made a very bad hire to replace Mack, just like we did in giving the old man three years. It takes a long time to recover from a bad coaching hire. Texas is definitely on the way back, and had a great recruiting year this year. We'll know after this season whether we also made a bad hire.

You think Charlie Strong was a bad hire...and you think Stitt was a bad hire.....is there a coaching hire that you have liked???

Charlie Strong??? Are you kidding me??? He has been a disaster for Texas.

Sure he has....if you judge him strictly on his win/loss record.

Should we judge him on the number of participation trophies he has won?

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

But he made the Semi-finals in his second year. I don't know what happened his first year, but if memory serves me correctly, he had some of the same first-year-learing-to-be-head-coach problems that Stitt had last season.

As far as Texas goes, they made a very bad hire to replace Mack, just like we did in giving the old man three years. It takes a long time to recover from a bad coaching hire. Texas is definitely on the way back, and had a great recruiting year this year. We'll know after this season whether we also made a bad hire.

You think Charlie Strong was a bad hire...and you think Stitt was a bad hire.....is there a coaching hire that you have liked???

Charlie Strong??? Are you kidding me??? He has been a disaster for Texas.

The disaster at Texas was the lack of discipline to the point where it devolved into a country club atmosphere under Mack. The Texas OU game was a glimpse of what Charlie has done to reverse that culture there. Charlie has excelled in turning around the lack of discipline. The jury is still out on his ability to coach, but he had to overcome a lot just to be able to get to a point where he could do that.

Sounds like someone we know...... Mick Delaney

 

[EverettGriz]

I think there is a parallel to UM's trend in Texas, but it isn't Baylor, it is UT - fans/boosters dissatisfied with not winning a NC every year, new coaches, and suddenly THE conference power is no longer. Note the slide started with Pflugrad, who had a roster with as much NFL talent as the Griz have had, coming off back to back national Championships, and couldn't win a BSC title or make the playoffs in 2010.

Good post, Beer.