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How much did the trial cost JJ and his family?

ben dover

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This had to have cost him and his family a bunch of money. I have no idea if it cost $20,000 or $50,000+.
 
Hammer said:
I bet it is in the hundreds of thousands.[/quote

My best guess would be around 150,000.00. Yes, it is purely a guess and I haven't done a trial since 1991, but I think I'm pretty close. I did run the same question past a couple of my poker buddies who do strictly criminal work and they both estimated 250,000.00...but they live and work in Seattle, so I think their guesses reflected that reality.
 
grizfan95 said:
Hammer said:
I bet it is in the hundreds of thousands.

I've heard numbers that confirm your statement.

money well spent tho. I heard the parents had to cash in their retirements and mortgage their house. Something any parent would do for their son without a moments notice. Hopefully they are able to recoup some of it.
 
Hammer said:
grizfan95 said:
Hammer said:
I bet it is in the hundreds of thousands.

I've heard numbers that confirm your statement.

money well spent tho. I heard the parents had to cash in their retirements and mortgage their house. Something any parent would do for their son without a moments notice. Hopefully they are able to recoup some of it.
I, as well as most of you, would do the same but...HOLY SH*T!!!!! I don't even want to think about it.
 
Somewhere in the neighborhood of $150-200K for attorney work product. Probably another $20K+ in costs expenses. I would assume that Paoli charges around $200.00 per hour and this trial could have easily had 800 to 1000 man hours in it. You can always figure that costs/expenses will run another 10-15%.
 
Gaeilge1 said:
Somewhere in the neighborhood of $150-200K for attorney work product. Probably another $20K+ in costs expenses. I would assume that Paoli charges around $200.00 per hour and this trial could have easily had 800 to 1000 man hours in it. You can always figure that costs/expenses will run another 10-15%.

and Pabst also
 
Ok I know we hashed through the NCAA violation of contributing while JJ is a player. After his eligibility is used up can egriz organize a drive for the cause? Five bucks a person out in front of WaGriz would bring in $100k or so (just counting 20,000 of JJ's closest friends!). Of course many would give substantially. Anyway we need a guru to get this in motion when it won't be a violation.
 
Interesting thought Buttegrizzle. Would a collection made for an unnamed cause given directly to the Paoli law firm run afoul of NCAA regulations if it occurred prior to JJ's eligibility running it's course?

I don't know the answer but I would suspect that the action would be frowned upon by the NCAA.
While they would not be able to d anything to JJ, they might well be able to sanction the University.
 
I heard from a semi-reliable source, is was just south of $500k. A year of legal resources will cost you an arm and a leg.
 
Which is an interesting question. Take for instance the case of: http://billingsgazette.com/news/national/casey-anthony-speaks-at-bankruptcy-hearing/article_30ea8226-2903-5e41-b917-9759d62542ae.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now I can understand attorney's fees, that's all a contracted service. But why in Hell does someone that is acquitted of a charge (July 2011, in this instance) having to pay out $ 145,660 for the Orange County Sheriff's Office for their investigative work? As well as $ 61,505 for the Florida Department of Law Enforcement for Court costs? If the prosecutor's office in a case can't prove evidentially enough for a conviction it isn't right that the accused, upon being acquitted, should have to face the costs of the Sheriff's Office investigation as well as Court costs; that should be upon their own heads, not upon the person acquitted of the charges.
The only time that an accused should have to submit to paying investigative and Court costs is upon conviction, proven without a doubt; and only then.

If this is standard operating procedure it is no different than the inquisitors back in the Middle Ages accusing anyone on the street of heresy and submitting them to torture and execution on a mere whim and dividing the spoils afterwards between the executioner, the crown and the Church; as has happened many a time in the historical context that eventually led to war, The Thirty Years War perchance. And I'd be loath to consider the time period between May 7, 1915 through to May 7, 1945, the second Thirty Years War, as the attendant question follows:

Has there been no update in the practise of Law and civilization since then?
 
WyomingGrizFan said:
Which is an interesting question. Take for instance the case of: http://billingsgazette.com/news/national/casey-anthony-speaks-at-bankruptcy-hearing/article_30ea8226-2903-5e41-b917-9759d62542ae.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now I can understand attorney's fees, that's all a contracted service. But why in Hell does someone that is acquitted of a charge (July 2011, in this instance) having to pay out $ 145,660 for the Orange County Sheriff's Office for their investigative work? As well as $ 61,505 for the Florida Department of Law Enforcement for Court costs? If the prosecutor's office in a case can't prove evidentially enough for a conviction it isn't right that the accused, upon being acquitted, should have to face the costs of the Sheriff's Office investigation as well as Court costs; that should be upon their own heads, not upon the person acquitted of the charges.The only time that an accused should have to submit to paying investigative and Court costs is upon conviction, proven without a doubt; and only then.
If this is standard operating procedure it is no different than the inquisitors back in the Middle Ages accusing anyone on the street of heresy and submitting them to torture and execution on a mere whim and dividing the spoils afterwards between the executioner, the crown and the Church; as has happened many a time in the historical context that eventually led to war, The Thirty Years War perchance. And along with that my refusal in considering the period between May 7, 1915 through to May 7, 1945, the second Thirty Years War, as the attendant question follows:

Has there been no update in the practise of Law and civilization since then?
Exactly! :clap:
 
$250,000 per hour for each hour the jury deliberated. Unbelievable, for a case that left the rails after the judge modified the restraining order to apply to both people. Should have never gone to trial. Insane.
 
TxGriz said:
$250,000 per hour for each hour the jury deliberated. Unbelievable, for a case that left the rails after the judge modified the restraining order to apply to both people. Should have never gone to trial. Insane.
DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!
 
I think cases like this are exactly why Prepaid Legal plans are beneficial. I know it would have still cost a lot of money. I do know some legal plans do have criminal defense included with so many hours. The law firms are also A rated. I am sure there is someone on EGRIZ with more insight on Prepaid Legal that can give us an idea if it would have helped or not.

I would not wish any parent(s) go through what JJ's family just went through.
 
Sportin' Life said:
If it was such a slam dunk case, Johnson should have saved all the money and gotten a public defender for free.
Is that what you would do if your life hang in the balance?
 
RobGriz said:
Sportin' Life said:
If it was such a slam dunk case, Johnson should have saved all the money and gotten a public defender for free.
Is that what you would do if your life hang in the balance?

Somehow, after an extremely enjoyable undergraduate life, and hell a good and pleasurable life well into my thirties .... that situation hasn't come up.

But seriously, yes. There is no way I would put my parents out for that kind of scratch, even if they could afford it. But in my younger years, it really wasn't any kind of option for me.
 
Sportin' Life said:
RobGriz said:
Sportin' Life said:
If it was such a slam dunk case, Johnson should have saved all the money and gotten a public defender for free.
Is that what you would do if your life hang in the balance?

Somehow, after an extremely enjoyable undergraduate life, and hell a good and pleasurable life well into my thirties .... that situation hasn't come up.

But seriously, yes. There is no way I would put my parents out for that kind of scratch, even if they could afford it. But in my younger years, it really wasn't any kind of option for me.

That would be noble of any son or daughter. However, I think this would be a time where the parents would not give a rats ass what you tell them. They would do everything possible to increase the chances of their child's innocence. Most parents would, do exactly what the Johnson's did. I am sure JJ will be apologizing to them the rest of his life, and will bust ass to pay them back. I doubt they will ask for it back though.
 
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