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mtgrizrule

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Every year under Hauck the offense very seldom utilizes quick hitting and short routes, such as slants, ins, outs, drags? It doesn't matter who the OC is.

These routes on a consistent basis helps the OL, reduces qb pressure and utilizes playmakers more often.

Is this a Hauck issue or are our OCs really not aware of the impact of these simple effective routes?

We utilize these simple routes maybe 1 or 2 times per game.

Not using these routes allows defenses to unleash the pressure consistently.

I want to see these things become a consistent part of the offense.

Thoughts?
 
I think it’s more about “the brand” of football that coaches Hauck brings in. Every OC Hauck has had we all know well. They’re all Hauck guys.

It’s not like he’s ever brought in a young new OC that he isn’t highly familiar or have history with. I just don’t love the brand of football that Haucks guys bring. The Roseys and Pease of the world don’t want to adapt to the modern game it seems
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
I think it’s more about “the brand” of football that coaches Hauck brings in. Every OC Hauck has had we all know well. They’re all Hauck guys.

It’s not like he’s ever brought in a young new OC that he isn’t highly familiar or have history with. I just don’t love the brand of football that Haucks guys bring. The Roseys and Pease of the world don’t want to adapt to the modern game it seems

How should they adapt to the modern game?
 
mthoopsfan said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
I think it’s more about “the brand” of football that coaches Hauck brings in. Every OC Hauck has had we all know well. They’re all Hauck guys.

It’s not like he’s ever brought in a young new OC that he isn’t highly familiar or have history with. I just don’t love the brand of football that Haucks guys bring. The Roseys and Pease of the world don’t want to adapt to the modern game it seems

How should they adapt to the modern game?

I don’t know that they need to adapt with scheme, as much as play calling. Pro style or spread option are not new to the game by any means and almost everyone runs RPO with a decent QB. Run 3, 4 and 5 wide sets if you have the right players. I believe the Griz do. They use their TE’s. Just not enough. Heavy WR/HB/TE screens are not being tried enough to get the ball in the hands of the Griz play-makers quickly. No huddle and quick tempo may help a bit, but the offense isn’t potent enough currently to do that. The defense ends up on the field too much. In a nutshell. Too vanilla and trying run plays that are not effective - over and over and over. I also would have tried McD more yesterday. Just my two cents, but what the heck do I know. About as much as anyone else complaining on the board I suspect.
 
I think the offensive scheme should follow my Four Keys (trademarked). They are as follows:

1. Have every one of the blockers block to make sure those who are attempting to tackle anyone in the backfield are not able to;

2. If it’s a run, make sure the RB knows that he should try to not get tackled;

3. If it’s a pass, make sure that the receiver(s) are wide open. This is critical for a good passing game; and

4. When we run a play, run or pass, we should focus on getting the ball into the opposing team’s end zone.

I think if we would follow my Four Keys (trademarked), we will be more successful on offense.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
I think the offensive scheme should follow my Four Keys (trademarked). They are as follows:

1. Have every one of the blockers block to make sure those who are attempting to tackle anyone in the backfield are not able to;

2. If it’s a run, make sure the RB knows that he should try to not get tackled;

3. If it’s a pass, make sure that the receiver(s) are wide open. This is critical for a good passing game; and

4. When we run a play, run or pass, we should focus on getting the ball into the opposing team’s end zone.

I think if we would follow my Four Keys (trademarked), we will be more successful on offense.

You, sir, are a genius. Truly. You should make an appointment with Bobby to share these new and innovative concepts with him. I am positive he will be impressed.
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I think the offensive scheme should follow my Four Keys (trademarked). They are as follows:

1. Have every one of the blockers block to make sure those who are attempting to tackle anyone in the backfield are not able to;

2. If it’s a run, make sure the RB knows that he should try to not get tackled;

3. If it’s a pass, make sure that the receiver(s) are wide open. This is critical for a good passing game; and

4. When we run a play, run or pass, we should focus on getting the ball into the opposing team’s end zone.

I think if we would follow my Four Keys (trademarked), we will be more successful on offense.

You, sir, are a genius. Truly. You should make an appointment with Bobby to share these new and innovative concepts with him. I am positive he will be impressed.

Thanks. Wait until you read my Four Defensive Keys™️:

1. When you want to tackle someone in the backfield, be sure not to let people from the other team block you;

2. If it’s a run, make sure to tackle the runner (he might not be following the original Four Keys);

3. If it’s a pass, stay right with the receivers and intercept/knock down any ball thrown in your general direction; and

4. When the other team runs a play, run or pass, we have to focus on not letting them get the ball into our end zone.

My book should be out next summer.
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I think the offensive scheme should follow my Four Keys (trademarked). They are as follows:

1. Have every one of the blockers block to make sure those who are attempting to tackle anyone in the backfield are not able to;

2. If it’s a run, make sure the RB knows that he should try to not get tackled;

3. If it’s a pass, make sure that the receiver(s) are wide open. This is critical for a good passing game; and

4. When we run a play, run or pass, we should focus on getting the ball into the opposing team’s end zone.

I think if we would follow my Four Keys (trademarked), we will be more successful on offense.

You, sir, are a genius. Truly. You should make an appointment with Bobby to share these new and innovative concepts with him. I am positive he will be impressed.

CDA has forgotten the fifth key. And it's heartbreaking for those of us who have watched his development from afar.

5. Costco, always Costco.
 
bgbigdog said:
Da Boyz Mom said:
You, sir, are a genius. Truly. You should make an appointment with Bobby to share these new and innovative concepts with him. I am positive he will be impressed.

CDA has forgotten the fifth key. And it's heartbreaking for those of us who have watched his development from afar.

5. Costco, always Costco.

It’s drafted into the Epilogue along with other tips for coaches who have trouble getting players to “buy-in” to The Keys.
 
mtgrizrule said:
Great, another derailed thread.
Apparently nobody cares to talk X's and O's.

Rule, have you considered the possibility that maybe the plays you want to see might not be there?
 
CDAGRIZ said:
I think the offensive scheme should follow my Four Keys (trademarked). They are as follows:

1. Have every one of the blockers block to make sure those who are attempting to tackle anyone in the backfield are not able to;

2. If it’s a run, make sure the RB knows that he should try to not get tackled;

3. If it’s a pass, make sure that the receiver(s) are wide open. This is critical for a good passing game; and

4. When we run a play, run or pass, we should focus on getting the ball into the opposing team’s end zone.

I think if we would follow my Four Keys (trademarked), we will be more successful on offense.

You forgot...
Never get less than twelve hours sleep.
Never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city.
And never go near a lady who has a tattoo of a dagger on her body.
 
Griz2k said:
CDAGRIZ said:
I think the offensive scheme should follow my Four Keys (trademarked). They are as follows:

1. Have every one of the blockers block to make sure those who are attempting to tackle anyone in the backfield are not able to;

2. If it’s a run, make sure the RB knows that he should try to not get tackled;

3. If it’s a pass, make sure that the receiver(s) are wide open. This is critical for a good passing game; and

4. When we run a play, run or pass, we should focus on getting the ball into the opposing team’s end zone.

I think if we would follow my Four Keys (trademarked), we will be more successful on offense.

You forgot...
Never get less than twelve hours sleep.
Never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city.
And never go near a lady who has a tattoo of a dagger on her body.

These fundamentals are already in the Epilogue of the book. I have a whole pierced tongue section at the end. I’m calling it an epilogue instead of glossary (or the like) because I feel that my knowledge tells a story.
 
mtgrizrule said:
Great, another derailed thread.
Apparently nobody cares to talk X's and O's.

You have a tendency to overvalue the worthiness of your threads.

We’ve had this discussion on here many times. Hell, I submitted this very question to the GFP two weeks ago. Bottom line is, most of us agree it’s an issue; none of us know what the answer is.

Relax and enjoy the levity this board brings.
 
EverettGriz said:
mtgrizrule said:
Great, another derailed thread.
Apparently nobody cares to talk X's and O's.

You have a tendency to overvalue the worthiness of your threads.

We’ve had this discussion on here many times. Hell, I submitted this very question to the GFP two weeks ago. Bottom line is, most of us agree it’s an issue; none of us know what the answer is.

Relax and enjoy the levity this board brings.

According to a number of posters, some of whom are just cat trolls, we are apparently supposed to be livid and "not going to take it anymore". Although I'm still trying to figure out how a whole bunch of nameless fans on a message board whining and yelling has any effect whatsoever on what the coaching staff does or does not do. It seems some anonymous message board posters have an overinflated sense of their own importance and influence.
 
mthoopsfan said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
I think it’s more about “the brand” of football that coaches Hauck brings in. Every OC Hauck has had we all know well. They’re all Hauck guys.

It’s not like he’s ever brought in a young new OC that he isn’t highly familiar or have history with. I just don’t love the brand of football that Haucks guys bring. The Roseys and Pease of the world don’t want to adapt to the modern game it seems

How should they adapt to the modern game?

Run more efficient offenses that is based off of and proven with the millions of data points available to college offensive coordinators.

Give your best player the ball frequently and certainly more than 4 times
 

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