Here's Some Info on Morrison in the Correct Forum

[TDMT]

His player efficiency rating, which measures a player's overall contributions per minute, is 7.29 (the average PER is 15.00), which ranks Morrison last in the NBA by far among all players averaging 30 or more minutes. The NBA's only starter with a lower PER is defensive specialist Jason Collins of New Jersey, while Morrison is a disaster on defense. So, while harsh, it is fair to call Adam Morrison the worst regular in the NBA according to the stats -- at least so far this season.

I don't have anything against Morrison, just tired of the Zag threads in the Griz Basketball Forum.

So, there you go.

 

[Grizbacker1]

His player efficiency rating, which measures a player's overall contributions per minute, is 7.29 (the average PER is 15.00), which ranks Morrison last in the NBA by far among all players averaging 30 or more minutes. The NBA's only starter with a lower PER is defensive specialist Jason Collins of New Jersey, while Morrison is a disaster on defense. So, while harsh, it is fair to call Adam Morrison the worst regular in the NBA according to the stats -- at least so far this season.

I don't have anything against Morrison, just tired of the Zag threads in the Griz Basketball Forum.

So, there you go.

It appears Morrison has gone from demanding the ball be passed to him, to praying they don't pass it to him. I think he will break out of his slump, but he is stinking up Arenas around the NBA right now.

 

[TDMT]

Here are some other interesting items on Morrison (I should give credit to David Thorpe of espn.com for all of this stuff on Morrison) I haven't been paying too much attention to the NBA yet (usually don't until closer to playoff time) but I didn't know he'd not been playing that well. I've only seen some headlines in the Spokesman Review when he's had a good game...

according to 82games.com, an astounding 90 percent of Morrison's shots have been jumpers.

If Morrison is a disaster as an offensive rebounder, the best word to describe his defense is pathetic. Both his effort and his effectiveness are truly subpar.

Morrison has blocked a total of three shots this year. Boykins has blocked two, even though he is 15 inches smaller and sometimes guards the same players Morrison does.

It's Morrison's lack of hustle that concerns me most. Offensive rebounds, blocks and steals are often considered "hustle" stats. Morrison has a combined total of 20, just three more than his backup in Charlotte, Matt Carroll, who is like Morrison just an average athlete. But Carroll has played only 207 minutes, less than one-third Morrison's total.

Morrison is just as ineffective off the ball, not making an effort at anticipating where the ball is going to or which player is going to make a cut or screen.

he does not spend much energy blocking out, fighting for position or making a strong play for a 50/50 ball. He gets rebounds only when they come right to him.

I would not write that when he is on the floor defensively for Charlotte, they are faced with a five-on-four disadvantage. But it's close.

 

[Grizbacker1]

Here are some other interesting items on Morrison (I should give credit to David Thorpe of espn.com for all of this stuff on Morrison) I haven't been paying too much attention to the NBA yet (usually don't until closer to playoff time) but I didn't know he'd not been playing that well. I've only seen some headlines in the Spokesman Review when he's had a good game...

according to 82games.com, an astounding 90 percent of Morrison's shots have been jumpers.

If Morrison is a disaster as an offensive rebounder, the best word to describe his defense is pathetic. Both his effort and his effectiveness are truly subpar.

Morrison has blocked a total of three shots this year. Boykins has blocked two, even though he is 15 inches smaller and sometimes guards the same players Morrison does.

It's Morrison's lack of hustle that concerns me most. Offensive rebounds, blocks and steals are often considered "hustle" stats. Morrison has a combined total of 20, just three more than his backup in Charlotte, Matt Carroll, who is like Morrison just an average athlete. But Carroll has played only 207 minutes, less than one-third Morrison's total.

Morrison is just as ineffective off the ball, not making an effort at anticipating where the ball is going to or which player is going to make a cut or screen.

he does not spend much energy blocking out, fighting for position or making a strong play for a 50/50 ball. He gets rebounds only when they come right to him.

I would not write that when he is on the floor defensively for Charlotte, they are faced with a five-on-four disadvantage. But it's close.

Morrison did have 22 and 7 tonight though

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I don't know if I could handle going from unknown to NBA lottery pick in three years. In terms of "Spotlight Maturity", AMMO's still a youngster. A lot of lottery picks have been in the spotlight since high school; probably makes it a bit less shocking when they get to the NBA. Not saying he's playing well, just that I understand his bad games a bit more than the others'.

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

I don't know if I could handle going from unknown to NBA lottery pick in three years.

Didn't 7' 0" Michael Olowokandi happen to be a lottery pick in 1998, the first one overall? I think he led his college team, Pacific, to the NCAA Tournament his junior year, averaging only 10.9 points a game but then his senior year he broke out for 22.2 points average a game. Drafted by the Los Angeles Clippers.

He's now in his ninth year playing for,..,hum, don't tell me now.... Oh, now I know, yeah, the Boston Celtics. Career average is like 8.54 points a game.
6' 3" Steve Nash is averaging 19.3 points a game with 11.6 assists for the 18 - 6 (at present) Phoenix Suns; drafted 15th overall out of Santa Clara back in 1996.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I don't know if I could handle going from unknown to NBA lottery pick in three years.

Didn't 7' 0" Michael Olowokandi happen to be a lottery pick in 1998, the first one overall? I think he led his college team, Pacific, to the NCAA Tournament his junior year, averaging only 10.9 points a game but then his senior year he broke out for 22.2 points average a game. Drafted by the Los Angeles Clippers.

He's now in his ninth year playing for,..,hum, don't tell me now.... Oh, now I know, yeah, the Boston Celtics. Career average is like 8.54 points a game.
6' 3" Steve Nash is averaging 19.3 points a game with 11.6 assists for the 18 - 6 (at present) Phoenix Suns; drafted 15th overall out of Santa Clara back in 1996.

I can't seem to follow your logic here....it seems like you've presented two disparate examples, no?

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

It says that not all 'Lottery Picks' are all that great, including a Shawn Bradley by the Philadelphia 76ers a couple years ago as well; but still Adam Morrison is proving to be better than what a lot of naysayers in their condemnations have seemed to overlook; the trials & tribulations that he has had to gone through in his life to get this far stand in testimony to a grit that I find admirable. It wasn't but last year that a large amount of discourse on this board was more than negative about the Gonzaga forward. He might not be lighting up the NBA like a Michael Jordan but I feel he is holding his own a lot better than a number of past lottery picks. And the teams that do make their picks later in the draft sometimes find players that aren't considered lottery picks a hell of a lot better than what the media makes out. I'am all for Adam Morrison having a successful career. Comprende?

I guess it takes an understanding of a slight glimmer of the history of the NBA but that is like a redundant statement having to repeat myself. 2 + 2 = 4

 

[CDAGRIZ]

It says that not all 'Lottery Picks' are all that great, including a Shawn Bradley by the Philadelphia 76ers a couple years ago as well; but still Adam Morrison is proving to be better than what a lot of naysayers in their condemnations have seemed to overlook; the trials & tribulations that he has had to gone through in his life to get this far stand in testimony to a grit that I find admirable. It wasn't but last year that a large amount of discourse on this board was more than negative about the Gonzaga forward. He might not be lighting up the NBA like a Michael Jordan but I feel he is holding his own a lot better than a number of past lottery picks. And the teams that do make their picks later in the draft sometimes find players that aren't considered lottery picks a hell of a lot better than what the media makes out. I'am all for Adam Morrison having a successful career. Comprende?

I guess it takes an understanding of a slight glimmer of the history of the NBA but that is like a redundant statement having to repeat myself. 2 + 2 = 4

I just couldn't tell if, by quoting me and posting what you did, you were offering support or counterevidence to my claim that it's hard to go from unknown to high draft pick in a short amount of time. I guess by highlighting Olowakandi and Nash you illustrated that not all lottery picks turn out to be great players, but some that weren't lottery picks do.

I guess I was supposed to make the connection between your examples and my statement about the difficulty of the transition myself: Because not all high picks turn out to be good, it shows that going from unknown to lottery pick is hard.

Of course this conclusion is only possible to make if one assumes that the shortcomings of the mentioned players (Olowakandi; Bradley) stem from the difficulty of making the above transition. The problem I had was that I had no way of knowing if you were making that assumption without you telling me. But now that your second post cleared it up, I think we're on the same page.

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

Thanx for your understanding there 'CDAGRIZ.' I should have probably clarified my position in my earlier postings. I know from other threads that some individuals might not support AMMO (I guess that is a 'nickname' for Adam Morrison that I'am not that familiar with at present) & go about a 'fault-finding' expose about his shortcomings but I don't find much that calls for serious consideration enough to harp about. I don't see him trying to solicit a 'sympathy vote' and he deals with what he has the best he can, seemingly, and in turn allows his natural born abilities to come to the fore. Some persons may say he has 'character issues' but I see a competitive individual that has that inner fire, so to speak, that should be recognized. I would find it very much to my liking if a player from the northwest has a successful career in the NBA.

Sounds like your into Gonzaga basketball somewhat. I hear that their women's basketball program has gotten a committment from a 'Top 100' type player from Kent, Washington. Ranked #64.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=209&p=8&c=1&nid=2448103

Maybe in coming seasons Gonzaga & the LG can have a couple good games against each other. UM winning of course.