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Hauck II Regime Possibilities

CrunchGriz

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It has struck me that posters here seem to have listed two possible outcomes of the second Bobby Hauck tenure at the helm of the Griz:

1. The Griz cannot possibly attain the record he had during his first run (because the Big Sky has somehow become much better overall and/or Bobby doesn't have the same juice he did before), and will fail to make the playoffs with any regularity; or

2. The Griz will rise to the same level they attained from 2003-2009; leaders of the pack and deep playoff runs, but not necessarily any national championships (because, on both counts, Bobby is just Bobby).

There is a third possibility, no matter how remote you might think it: The Griz get even better this time around than Bobby's first rodeo. How could this happen? Experience and exposure to other coaching schemes and methods, and Montana's woeful player facilities are now a thing of the past. When Bobby said in the presser than he is a better coach now than he was when he was here before, I think he truly believes that, and the Big Sky's performance in the playoffs since he left has been pretty spotty (Eastern a couple of times, winning once, and Weber this year are the only really decent performances), which lends credence to his assertion that the Big Sky is pretty much the same. It has not suddenly turned into the SEC in his absence. Bobby has a pretty good handle on what it takes to win in the FCS. By the time he got his guys in the system, his teams were rolling (as noted by the 31-1 record in the Sky his last four seasons, with the Griz in three of the four seasons making it at least to the semifinals).

This may be deep maroon glasses doing the writing for me, but it is a distinct possibility, despite the protestations of Hauck-haters and fans of that team over the mountains (oops, I was redundant).

Bobby knows.
 
Could that first scenario possibly be related to Montana's program not being as strong in the last few seasons as it was in the seasons prior to Hauck's first arrival, and having less overall momentum to succeed? It might not even be a conference problem or a Hauck problem, but a UM problem.
 
CrunchGriz said:
It has struck me that posters here seem to have listed two possible outcomes of the second Bobby Hauck tenure at the helm of the Griz:

1. The Griz cannot possibly attain the record he had during his first run (because the Big Sky has somehow become much better overall and/or Bobby doesn't have the same juice he did before), and will fail to make the playoffs with any regularity; or

2. The Griz will rise to the same level they attained from 2003-2009; leaders of the pack and deep playoff runs, but not necessarily any national championships (because, on both counts, Bobby is just Bobby).

There is a third possibility, no matter how remote you might think it: The Griz get even better this time around than Bobby's first rodeo. How could this happen? Experience and exposure to other coaching schemes and methods, and Montana's woeful player facilities are now a thing of the past. When Bobby said in the presser than he is a better coach now than he was when he was here before, I think he truly believes that, and the Big Sky's performance in the playoffs since he left has been pretty spotty (Eastern a couple of times, winning once, and Weber this year are the only really decent performances), which lends credence to his assertion that the Big Sky is pretty much the same. It has not suddenly turned into the SEC in his absence. Bobby has a pretty good handle on what it takes to win in the FCS. By the time he got his guys in the system, his teams were rolling (as noted by the 31-1 record in the Sky his last four seasons, with the Griz in three of the four seasons making it at least to the semifinals).

This may be deep maroon glasses doing the writing for me, but it is a distinct possibility, despite the protestations of Hauck-haters and fans of that team over the mountains (oops, I was redundant).

Bobby knows.


I like possibility #3. Going to take some time to fill the cupboards with "his guys", however he is a good enough coach to not lean on that excuse like our previous HC. I think he will be able to coach up the guys in the room to be competitive now.
 
CrunchGriz said:
It has struck me that posters here seem to have listed two possible outcomes of the second Bobby Hauck tenure at the helm of the Griz:

1. The Griz cannot possibly attain the record he had during his first run (because the Big Sky has somehow become much better overall and/or Bobby doesn't have the same juice he did before), and will fail to make the playoffs with any regularity; or

2. The Griz will rise to the same level they attained from 2003-2009; leaders of the pack and deep playoff runs, but not necessarily any national championships (because, on both counts, Bobby is just Bobby).

There is a third possibility, no matter how remote you might think it: The Griz get even better this time around than Bobby's first rodeo. How could this happen? Experience and exposure to other coaching schemes and methods, and Montana's woeful player facilities are now a thing of the past. When Bobby said in the presser than he is a better coach now than he was when he was here before, I think he truly believes that, and the Big Sky's performance in the playoffs since he left has been pretty spotty (Eastern a couple of times, winning once, and Weber this year are the only really decent performances), which lends credence to his assertion that the Big Sky is pretty much the same. It has not suddenly turned into the SEC in his absence. Bobby has a pretty good handle on what it takes to win in the FCS. By the time he got his guys in the system, his teams were rolling (as noted by the 31-1 record in the Sky his last four seasons, with the Griz in three of the four seasons making it at least to the semifinals).

This may be deep maroon glasses doing the writing for me, but it is a distinct possibility, despite the protestations of Hauck-haters and fans of that team over the mountains (oops, I was redundant).

Bobby knows.

First, let me just say that you have excellent writing skills, Crunch, both in style and substance.

I love the idea of scenario 3 and tend to think that, in addition to the coaching experience Hauck has gained and the new facilities, there are some external factors that might come into play. Having raised his kids nearly to adulthood (requires endless patience and compromise), turning 50 (creates a strong awareness of one's mortality and legacy), and coming back to a town he loves knowing that there are some who don't want him here (big motivation to prove them wrong). Those are all defining factors in a person's life and, in my opinion, will add to his tenacity and drive to dominate.
 
GGNez said:
CrunchGriz said:
It has struck me that posters here seem to have listed two possible outcomes of the second Bobby Hauck tenure at the helm of the Griz:

1. The Griz cannot possibly attain the record he had during his first run (because the Big Sky has somehow become much better overall and/or Bobby doesn't have the same juice he did before), and will fail to make the playoffs with any regularity; or

2. The Griz will rise to the same level they attained from 2003-2009; leaders of the pack and deep playoff runs, but not necessarily any national championships (because, on both counts, Bobby is just Bobby).

There is a third possibility, no matter how remote you might think it: The Griz get even better this time around than Bobby's first rodeo. How could this happen? Experience and exposure to other coaching schemes and methods, and Montana's woeful player facilities are now a thing of the past. When Bobby said in the presser than he is a better coach now than he was when he was here before, I think he truly believes that, and the Big Sky's performance in the playoffs since he left has been pretty spotty (Eastern a couple of times, winning once, and Weber this year are the only really decent performances), which lends credence to his assertion that the Big Sky is pretty much the same. It has not suddenly turned into the SEC in his absence. Bobby has a pretty good handle on what it takes to win in the FCS. By the time he got his guys in the system, his teams were rolling (as noted by the 31-1 record in the Sky his last four seasons, with the Griz in three of the four seasons making it at least to the semifinals).

This may be deep maroon glasses doing the writing for me, but it is a distinct possibility, despite the protestations of Hauck-haters and fans of that team over the mountains (oops, I was redundant).

Bobby knows.

First, let me just say that you have excellent writing skills, Crunch, both in style and substance.

I love the idea of scenario 3 and tend to think that, in addition to the coaching experience Hauck has gained and the new facilities, there are some external factors that might come into play. Having raised his kids nearly to adulthood (requires endless patience and compromise), turning 50 (creates a strong awareness of one's mortality and legacy), and coming back to a town he loves knowing that there are some who don't want him here (big motivation to prove them wrong). Those are all defining factors in a person's life and, in my opinion, will add to his tenacity and drive to dominate.

You wouldn't like my writing skills GG. I've been criticized on here several times for em. I do like yours though and mostly I like your ideas. You seem to have a very level head and understanding of Montana football and I bet discussing football in general with you would be a lot of fun. I also think Crunch's 3rd scenario is going to be closer to reality then the others. I think Bobby 2.0 will be a version that will not only bring us back to dominance of the Sky but finally win him a couple of them titles that were so elusive his first go around.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
GGNez said:
CrunchGriz said:
It has struck me that posters here seem to have listed two possible outcomes of the second Bobby Hauck tenure at the helm of the Griz:

1. The Griz cannot possibly attain the record he had during his first run (because the Big Sky has somehow become much better overall and/or Bobby doesn't have the same juice he did before), and will fail to make the playoffs with any regularity; or

2. The Griz will rise to the same level they attained from 2003-2009; leaders of the pack and deep playoff runs, but not necessarily any national championships (because, on both counts, Bobby is just Bobby).

There is a third possibility, no matter how remote you might think it: The Griz get even better this time around than Bobby's first rodeo. How could this happen? Experience and exposure to other coaching schemes and methods, and Montana's woeful player facilities are now a thing of the past. When Bobby said in the presser than he is a better coach now than he was when he was here before, I think he truly believes that, and the Big Sky's performance in the playoffs since he left has been pretty spotty (Eastern a couple of times, winning once, and Weber this year are the only really decent performances), which lends credence to his assertion that the Big Sky is pretty much the same. It has not suddenly turned into the SEC in his absence. Bobby has a pretty good handle on what it takes to win in the FCS. By the time he got his guys in the system, his teams were rolling (as noted by the 31-1 record in the Sky his last four seasons, with the Griz in three of the four seasons making it at least to the semifinals).

This may be deep maroon glasses doing the writing for me, but it is a distinct possibility, despite the protestations of Hauck-haters and fans of that team over the mountains (oops, I was redundant).

Bobby knows.

First, let me just say that you have excellent writing skills, Crunch, both in style and substance.

I love the idea of scenario 3 and tend to think that, in addition to the coaching experience Hauck has gained and the new facilities, there are some external factors that might come into play. Having raised his kids nearly to adulthood (requires endless patience and compromise), turning 50 (creates a strong awareness of one's mortality and legacy), and coming back to a town he loves knowing that there are some who don't want him here (big motivation to prove them wrong). Those are all defining factors in a person's life and, in my opinion, will add to his tenacity and drive to dominate.

You wouldn't like my writing skills GG. I've been criticized on here several times for em. I do like yours though and mostly I like your ideas. You seem to have a very level head and understanding of Montana football and I bet discussing football in general with you would be a lot of fun. I also think Crunch's 3rd scenario is going to be closer to reality then the others. I think Bobby 2.0 will be a version that will not only bring us back to dominance of the Sky but finally win him a couple of them titles that were so elusive his first go around.

jeaze get a room already :-P :-P
 
alabamagrizzly said:
GGNez said:
CrunchGriz said:
It has struck me that posters here seem to have listed two possible outcomes of the second Bobby Hauck tenure at the helm of the Griz:

1. The Griz cannot possibly attain the record he had during his first run (because the Big Sky has somehow become much better overall and/or Bobby doesn't have the same juice he did before), and will fail to make the playoffs with any regularity; or

2. The Griz will rise to the same level they attained from 2003-2009; leaders of the pack and deep playoff runs, but not necessarily any national championships (because, on both counts, Bobby is just Bobby).

There is a third possibility, no matter how remote you might think it: The Griz get even better this time around than Bobby's first rodeo. How could this happen? Experience and exposure to other coaching schemes and methods, and Montana's woeful player facilities are now a thing of the past. When Bobby said in the presser than he is a better coach now than he was when he was here before, I think he truly believes that, and the Big Sky's performance in the playoffs since he left has been pretty spotty (Eastern a couple of times, winning once, and Weber this year are the only really decent performances), which lends credence to his assertion that the Big Sky is pretty much the same. It has not suddenly turned into the SEC in his absence. Bobby has a pretty good handle on what it takes to win in the FCS. By the time he got his guys in the system, his teams were rolling (as noted by the 31-1 record in the Sky his last four seasons, with the Griz in three of the four seasons making it at least to the semifinals).

This may be deep maroon glasses doing the writing for me, but it is a distinct possibility, despite the protestations of Hauck-haters and fans of that team over the mountains (oops, I was redundant).

Bobby knows.

First, let me just say that you have excellent writing skills, Crunch, both in style and substance.

I love the idea of scenario 3 and tend to think that, in addition to the coaching experience Hauck has gained and the new facilities, there are some external factors that might come into play. Having raised his kids nearly to adulthood (requires endless patience and compromise), turning 50 (creates a strong awareness of one's mortality and legacy), and coming back to a town he loves knowing that there are some who don't want him here (big motivation to prove them wrong). Those are all defining factors in a person's life and, in my opinion, will add to his tenacity and drive to dominate.

You wouldn't like my writing skills GG. I've been criticized on here several times for em. I do like yours though and mostly I like your ideas. You seem to have a very level head and understanding of Montana football and I bet discussing football in general with you would be a lot of fun. I also think Crunch's 3rd scenario is going to be closer to reality then the others. I think Bobby 2.0 will be a version that will not only bring us back to dominance of the Sky but finally win him a couple of them titles that were so elusive his first go around.

Well, what you claim to lack in writing skills, you make up for in charm, Alabama. Thank you for your kind words. Your Bill Kelly quote is remarkably appropriate and adds to what I was trying to say about Hauck and the personal matters that make him just like the rest of us.

I'd definitely love a championship title or two in the coming years. I hope you're right!
 
GGNez said:
alabamagrizzly said:
GGNez said:
CrunchGriz said:
It has struck me that posters here seem to have listed two possible outcomes of the second Bobby Hauck tenure at the helm of the Griz:

1. The Griz cannot possibly attain the record he had during his first run (because the Big Sky has somehow become much better overall and/or Bobby doesn't have the same juice he did before), and will fail to make the playoffs with any regularity; or

2. The Griz will rise to the same level they attained from 2003-2009; leaders of the pack and deep playoff runs, but not necessarily any national championships (because, on both counts, Bobby is just Bobby).

There is a third possibility, no matter how remote you might think it: The Griz get even better this time around than Bobby's first rodeo. How could this happen? Experience and exposure to other coaching schemes and methods, and Montana's woeful player facilities are now a thing of the past. When Bobby said in the presser than he is a better coach now than he was when he was here before, I think he truly believes that, and the Big Sky's performance in the playoffs since he left has been pretty spotty (Eastern a couple of times, winning once, and Weber this year are the only really decent performances), which lends credence to his assertion that the Big Sky is pretty much the same. It has not suddenly turned into the SEC in his absence. Bobby has a pretty good handle on what it takes to win in the FCS. By the time he got his guys in the system, his teams were rolling (as noted by the 31-1 record in the Sky his last four seasons, with the Griz in three of the four seasons making it at least to the semifinals).

This may be deep maroon glasses doing the writing for me, but it is a distinct possibility, despite the protestations of Hauck-haters and fans of that team over the mountains (oops, I was redundant).

Bobby knows.

First, let me just say that you have excellent writing skills, Crunch, both in style and substance.

I love the idea of scenario 3 and tend to think that, in addition to the coaching experience Hauck has gained and the new facilities, there are some external factors that might come into play. Having raised his kids nearly to adulthood (requires endless patience and compromise), turning 50 (creates a strong awareness of one's mortality and legacy), and coming back to a town he loves knowing that there are some who don't want him here (big motivation to prove them wrong). Those are all defining factors in a person's life and, in my opinion, will add to his tenacity and drive to dominate.

You wouldn't like my writing skills GG. I've been criticized on here several times for em. I do like yours though and mostly I like your ideas. You seem to have a very level head and understanding of Montana football and I bet discussing football in general with you would be a lot of fun. I also think Crunch's 3rd scenario is going to be closer to reality then the others. I think Bobby 2.0 will be a version that will not only bring us back to dominance of the Sky but finally win him a couple of them titles that were so elusive his first go around.

Well, what you claim to lack in writing skills, you make up for in charm, Alabama. Thank you for your kind words. Your Bill Kelly quote is remarkably appropriate and adds to what I was trying to say about Hauck and the personal matters that make him just like the rest of us.

I'd definitely love a championship title or two in the coming years. I hope you're right!

Well all of my writing skills teachers in school agreed on it also so maybe they were on to something :D Thanks for noticing the quote too. The moment I read it, I knew it had to be shared on here repeatedly. Many posters are pretty hard on these kids and coaches and forget they are people just like us, trying to do what they think is best. Speaking of quotes, I really dig yours. You still have to have the right attitude with it though which I'm figuring you have. That mental approach in the wrong hands can be very dangerous. As far as thinking Hauck can win championships, my opinion can't always be trusted. I think/hope he will but I thought/hoped Stitt would win some too. For the record, I have openly confessed to constantly wearing my maroon colored glasses also.
 
Stop_HammerTime69 said:
Could that first scenario possibly be related to Montana's program not being as strong in the last few seasons as it was in the seasons prior to Hauck's first arrival, and having less overall momentum to succeed? It might not even be a conference problem or a Hauck problem, but a UM problem.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner. Spot on. Hopefully though, we can start to right this ship.
 
THAT is pure bullshit! Bobby can accomplish exactly WHAT HE SETS OUT TO!!! He made his priorities very clear (1.) graduate! (2.) beat your rival! (3.) win the BSC! (4.) win the NC! I CAN SEE only time until Bobby accomplishes all of this! Bobby is not a short fix he is the REAL DEAL!! The only difference between then and now is the Griz have slipped a cog or two . Everyone else is the same. Bobby will repair that small glitch and it's BACK TO NORMAL! Go Griz! We have only ,just began!
 
alabamagrizzly said:
GGNez said:
alabamagrizzly said:
GGNez said:
First, let me just say that you have excellent writing skills, Crunch, both in style and substance.

I love the idea of scenario 3 and tend to think that, in addition to the coaching experience Hauck has gained and the new facilities, there are some external factors that might come into play. Having raised his kids nearly to adulthood (requires endless patience and compromise), turning 50 (creates a strong awareness of one's mortality and legacy), and coming back to a town he loves knowing that there are some who don't want him here (big motivation to prove them wrong). Those are all defining factors in a person's life and, in my opinion, will add to his tenacity and drive to dominate.

You wouldn't like my writing skills GG. I've been criticized on here several times for em. I do like yours though and mostly I like your ideas. You seem to have a very level head and understanding of Montana football and I bet discussing football in general with you would be a lot of fun. I also think Crunch's 3rd scenario is going to be closer to reality then the others. I think Bobby 2.0 will be a version that will not only bring us back to dominance of the Sky but finally win him a couple of them titles that were so elusive his first go around.

Well, what you claim to lack in writing skills, you make up for in charm, Alabama. Thank you for your kind words. Your Bill Kelly quote is remarkably appropriate and adds to what I was trying to say about Hauck and the personal matters that make him just like the rest of us.

I'd definitely love a championship title or two in the coming years. I hope you're right!

Well all of my writing skills teachers in school agreed on it also so maybe they were on to something :D Thanks for noticing the quote too. The moment I read it, I knew it had to be shared on here repeatedly. Many posters are pretty hard on these kids and coaches and forget they are people just like us, trying to do what they think is best. Speaking of quotes, I really dig yours. You still have to have the right attitude with it though which I'm figuring you have. That mental approach in the wrong hands can be very dangerous. As far as thinking Hauck can win championships, my opinion can't always be trusted. I think/hope he will but I thought/hoped Stitt would win some too. For the record, I have openly confessed to constantly wearing my maroon colored glasses also.

Most definitely my quote is meant in the most positive light. Once you are no longer personally affected by petty drama, you can act deliberately instead of reacting emotionally (something I recently stated that Hauck will be much better at this round) and have less chance of being baited by taunts and negativity. It also allows you to be genuinely kind and generous because you're no longer weighed down by negativity. We should all strive to be unfuckwithable, IMO. As for the maroon colored glasses, I think that's the epitome of a true fan with one caveat: keep the maroon colored glass clean and scratch-free so that you can still see right from wrong. I'm sure yours are crystal clear.
 
This is to request that, when posting about Coach Hauck, posters end every sentence with at least five exclamation points!!!!

D'oh!
 
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