Griz vs Badgers

[mtgrizrule]

I don't know much about your guards. Who will be guarding Jordan Taylor?

More than likely, Big Sky Defensive POY, Will Cherry.

With a good dose of Stockton beatin' on him maybe.

Stockton certainly will not back down either, and is strong enough, with the mindset to shove back too. :thumb:

 

[BelierPeaux]

I don't know much about your guards. Who will be guarding Jordan Taylor?

More than likely, Big Sky Defensive POY, Will Cherry.

Not so sure about that. Art has been blanketing the opposing teams best player quite a few times this year. Would not be surprised if Will was it, either.

 

[badger007]

I'll ask this in the most polite way possible, but is there a proper way to judge the quality of your program?

Jeff Sagarin has the Big Sky ranked 25th and the Big Ten ranked 1st.

Also, it is puzzling to see a 25-point loss to Oregon State and one point win over University of Great Falls. Were there any circumstances to those games other than it being early in the season?

Even Weber State seemed to have some trouble when going up against quality teams in their non-conference slate. They played St. Mary's, BYU and Cal (all tournament teams) and lost by a combined 65 points in those three games.

I'll take a shot: Has Wisconsin ever had a close game with one of the hyphenated UW+ Green Bay or Milw schools? I was at the University of GF game , behind our bench, and will say that this game is kind of the annual preseason scrimmage game we have every year. This year the entire team went into that game expecting the usual 40 point blowout and got shocked. The Griz ran into a really athletic fired up bunch , perhaps UGF's best team ever. Great Falls came in and they thought they were going to pull off an Appalachian State vs Michigan. They almost did.
The Griz team of the last 2 months, with the lineup and roles established is a different team and playing very well. I know our schedule sucks but the Long Beach State was a good win for us and we have improved steadily since then.

We absolutely have had close games against state schools like UW-GB and UW-Milwaukee. Hell, we even lost to UW-GB 88-84 (OT) in 2009! If I were to play devils advocate, though, UW-GB and UW-Milwaukee are both Division I programs that compete in the Horizon League, opposed to UGF. Milwaukee typically has had a very solid squad and have boasted two very good coaches recently (Bruce Pearl and Rob Jeter). They've had just one losing season since 2001-2002 and have several 20-win seasons in that span.

Regardless, I understand that was an early season game and teams are still finding their niche. Just found it a little puzzling, which is why I asked about the circumstances other than it being an early season game.

 

[Ashamed]

When do times come out? I thought it was usually a couple hours after the selection show finished.

 

[GrizMusician]

One thing is for sure... the Badger fans that have joined us eGriz seem to be knowledgeable & love to talk sports.

Welcome Badger fans! I wish more opposing fans were as civil as you! It gives me great respect for you & your program. :thumb:

 

[mtgrizrule]

I'll ask this in the most polite way possible, but is there a proper way to judge the quality of your program?

Jeff Sagarin has the Big Sky ranked 25th and the Big Ten ranked 1st.

Also, it is puzzling to see a 25-point loss to Oregon State and one point win over University of Great Falls. Were there any circumstances to those games other than it being early in the season?

Even Weber State seemed to have some trouble when going up against quality teams in their non-conference slate. They played St. Mary's, BYU and Cal (all tournament teams) and lost by a combined 65 points in those three games.

I'll take a shot: Has Wisconsin ever had a close game with one of the hyphenated UW+ Green Bay or Milw schools? I was at the University of GF game , behind our bench, and will say that this game is kind of the annual preseason scrimmage game we have every year. This year the entire team went into that game expecting the usual 40 point blowout and got shocked. The Griz ran into a really athletic fired up bunch , perhaps UGF's best team ever. Great Falls came in and they thought they were going to pull off an Appalachian State vs Michigan. They almost did.
The Griz team of the last 2 months, with the lineup and roles established is a different team and playing very well. I know our schedule sucks but the Long Beach State was a good win for us and we have improved steadily since then.

We absolutely have had close games against state schools like UW-GB and UW-Milwaukee. Hell, we even lost to UW-GB 88-84 (OT) in 2009! If I were to play devils advocate, though, UW-GB and UW-Milwaukee are both Division I programs that compete in the Horizon League, opposed to UGF. Milwaukee typically has had a very solid squad and have boasted two very good coaches recently (Bruce Pearl and Rob Jeter). They've had just one losing season since 2001-2002 and have several 20-win seasons in that span.

Regardless, I understand that was an early season game and teams are still finding their niche. Just found it a little puzzling, which is why I asked about the circumstances other than it being an early season game.

At the time the GRIZ almost lost to UGF, they were still trying to find an identity, especially on offense. The prior 2 years we had a huge inside presence, in Brian Qvale. The GRIZ also were a horrible perimeter shooting team all last season, and early this season. They had no confidence or continuity from the perimeter. Since then, the perimeter game has become the strength of the offense.

A very different team on offense, and defense then, than now.

 

[BuckyMeetsMonte]

One thing is for sure... the Badger fans that have joined us eGriz seem to be knowledgeable & love to talk sports.

Welcome Badger fans! I wish more opposing fans were as civil as you! It gives me great respect for you & your program. :thumb:

Admirable comments, the feeling is mutual. I've been most impressed with the overall basketball IQ of most of the posters on this board. Now enough with the hug-fest... bring it on Grizzlies! J/k

 

[Grizzaholic]

I was curious if anyone could break down a comparison with Damian Lillard to Jordan Taylor. Lillard put up 21, 19 and 29 points in the three games this season against the Griz. We seemed to have "no answer" for slowing down Lillard on the last game. Is Jordan Taylor a dominant player that is capable of putting up near 30 points with no one finding a solution on stopping him?

 

[Ashamed]

Games at Noon 15 MST.

 

[Tokyogriz]

10 bold predictions about the NCAA tourney
By Myron Medcalf

1...
2....etc

5 - The Badgers will go home early: I’m picking Montana over Wisconsin in the 13/4 matchup in the East Region. Wisconsin’s offense has stalled multiple times in recent weeks. Even though the Badgers are capable of neutralizing any offense, they’ve had problems capitalizing due to their own inconsistent offense. Montana will be ready. The Grizzlies beat their Big Sky rivals Weber state by 19 points in the conference’s tournament title game, their 14th consecutive victory. Plus, Will Cherry (16.0 ppg) can match Jordan Taylor. Grizzlies will advance.

From ESPN
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketba" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... aa-tourney

Write this down.

 

[wiscmont]

Looks like the game is earlier than expected if ESPN has the updated times. I think it's going to be around noon MST,

 

[wiscmont]

I was curious if anyone could break down a comparison with Damian Lillard to Jordan Taylor. Lillard put up 21, 19 and 29 points in the three games this season against the Griz. We seemed to have "no answer" for slowing down Lillard on the last game. Is Jordan Taylor a dominant player that is capable of putting up near 30 points with no one finding a solution on stopping him?

Lillard is much quicker than Taylor. Taylor is a very good player. Lillard is better. Taylor plays a more physical style, He can go off at anytime for 30, yes.

 

[badger007]

I was curious if anyone could break down a comparison with Damian Lillard to Jordan Taylor. Lillard put up 21, 19 and 29 points in the three games this season against the Griz. We seemed to have "no answer" for slowing down Lillard on the last game. Is Jordan Taylor a dominant player that is capable of putting up near 30 points with no one finding a solution on stopping him?

As a starter for Wisconsin (two years), Jordan Taylor put up 20+ points in 15 games (includes two games of 30+ points) as a junior and has put up two games of 25+ just twice this season. He is more than capable of putting up big numbers. It's much more difficult for him to do that this season with all the attention he garners. From what it looked like this season, opposing coaches have one guy on Taylor and have that player stick to Taylor like glue, no matter what.

 

[PlayerRep]

I have no doubt that Taylor is a very good point guard. However, I think we may have to wait until the game is over to decide who was the best guard on the court during the game.

Lillard of Weber is also very good, the second leading scorer in the nation, and apparently may be the top point guard taken in the upcoming NBA draft. In the Weber-Montana game two weeks ago, Cherry of UM was the best guard in the game, not Lillard. In the championship game last week, Lillard had a very good game and 29 points, but one could argue that Jamar of UM was the best guard in the game. Lillard had his 29 points in 11-23 shooting, 7 assists and 3 turnovers. Jamar had 23 points in 9-12 shooting (5-8 from 3 range), 7 assists and 2 turnovers. Lillard also had a bunch of rebounds. Jamar was the tourney MVP.

By the way, Taylor's assist to turnover ratio is 15th in the nation.

 

[badgerfan43]

I was curious if anyone could break down a comparison with Damian Lillard to Jordan Taylor. Lillard put up 21, 19 and 29 points in the three games this season against the Griz. We seemed to have "no answer" for slowing down Lillard on the last game. Is Jordan Taylor a dominant player that is capable of putting up near 30 points with no one finding a solution on stopping him?

Another badger fan here, looking forward to a great game thursday!

As for Taylor, yes he can take over a game, although he hasn't truly done it this year although he did drop 27 on Minnesota. See for yourself what he can do (Both of these games were last year, btw):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX0r_DSfMEA&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHBufi4j0us[/youtube]

 

[GrizzlyBear]

Should be a good game go Griz!

 

[formerlybis]

10 bold predictions about the NCAA tourney
By Myron Medcalf

You didn't have to go any farther. Myron is (or at least was) the beat writer for the Minnesota Gophers -- Minnesotans (& especially the hapless Gophers) are notoriously jealous of all things sports-wise that Wisconsin has, including both pro & college sports. I live in the Twin Cities -- they cannot be objective toward Wisconsin because of their intense hatred. I'm not saying Montana won't beat Wisconsin, just saying you shouldn't necessarily hang your hat on this guy's very colored opinion.

 

[BigAppleBucky]

The Freddie Owens shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_xe1h11zNE

Forever our hero. That was Devin Harris, now on the Utah Jazz who fed him the ball on that 3 that capped a huge, improbable comeback (CBS had switched away from the game) at the NCAAs against Tulsa.

You beat me to it. Great memory for Badger fans. That shot topped off a 13 point 3 minute comeback win. I wonder if Bo and Freddie will have time to do dinner together.

Freddie was one of those frustrating guys that would take suicide drives and wild shots, but just often enough they'd turn into great plays that won games.

Hope he's being successful in Montana.

 

[BelierPeaux]

I'll ask this in the most polite way possible, but is there a proper way to judge the quality of your program?

Jeff Sagarin has the Big Sky ranked 25th and the Big Ten ranked 1st.

Also, it is puzzling to see a 25-point loss to Oregon State and one point win over University of Great Falls. Were there any circumstances to those games other than it being early in the season?

Even Weber State seemed to have some trouble when going up against quality teams in their non-conference slate. They played St. Mary's, BYU and Cal (all tournament teams) and lost by a combined 65 points in those three games.

I'll take a shot: Has Wisconsin ever had a close game with one of the hyphenated UW+ Green Bay or Milw schools? I was at the University of GF game , behind our bench, and will say that this game is kind of the annual preseason scrimmage game we have every year. This year the entire team went into that game expecting the usual 40 point blowout and got shocked. The Griz ran into a really athletic fired up bunch , perhaps UGF's best team ever. Great Falls came in and they thought they were going to pull off an Appalachian State vs Michigan. They almost did.
The Griz team of the last 2 months, with the lineup and roles established is a different team and playing very well. I know our schedule sucks but the Long Beach State was a good win for us and we have improved steadily since then.

We absolutely have had close games against state schools like UW-GB and UW-Milwaukee. Hell, we even lost to UW-GB 88-84 (OT) in 2009! If I were to play devils advocate, though, UW-GB and UW-Milwaukee are both Division I programs that compete in the Horizon League, opposed to UGF. Milwaukee typically has had a very solid squad and have boasted two very good coaches recently (Bruce Pearl and Rob Jeter). They've had just one losing season since 2001-2002 and have several 20-win seasons in that span.

Regardless, I understand that was an early season game and teams are still finding their niche. Just found it a little puzzling, which is why I asked about the circumstances other than it being an early season game.

At the time the GRIZ almost lost to UGF, they were still trying to find an identity, especially on offense. The prior 2 years we had a huge inside presence, in Brian Qvale. The GRIZ also were a horrible perimeter shooting team all last season, and early this season. They had no confidence or continuity from the perimeter. Since then, the perimeter game has become the strength of the offense.

A very different team on offense, and defense then, than now.

Exactly. This team was trying to figure out what life without Qvale meant. It can be tough when you don't have a big, bulky 7 footer in the lane to fall back on. Heh. I give a lot of credit to the coaches and the team for figuring out and accepting their roles to get this team on the hot streak they are currently enjoying.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

I see Jamar guarding Taylor on defense.