GRIZ/unc game thread

[mtgrizrule]

Just got home. I was right and wrong regarding my pregame thoughts. I was so wrong thinking the whole game would be a rough physical ugly game. They were physical, but fun game to be attending. I was right this would be a closer game than many would like. As soon as I walked into the gym, I seen a few guys wearing game pass badges. They looked pretty official. I watched them interact, and figured they were NBA scouts. As it turned out, I was right. Cherry sure picked a great game to almost be himself again. They also seen Jamar's complete offensive game.

1st of all, for anyone thinking UNC is a bad team, they are better than their record indicates. They have a couple of very athletic forwards (Huskisson and Barden). Unruh and Svihovec can fill it up, even when being defended well. They made a lot of very tightly contested shots, after hitting some open ones in the 1st half. UNC will be a tough out come the end of the year. Barden is not even close to 6'5" closer to 6'3". He has mad hops, and jumps quicker than anyone I have seen in the BSC in the last decade. At least he did tonight. UNC is a very capable BSC team, and will finish anywhere from 3rd to 6th. Like the GRIZ, their bigs needs to step it up more.

Speaking of the GRIZ, the 1st 12 minutes were very ugly, which did not surprise me. The lazy passes really surprised me though. UNC took advantage of the GRIZ slow start. The GRIZ found their game the last 8 minutes of the 1st half, Cherry, Kareem, and Weisner all had nice 1st halfs. Kareem took the game game over to close the 1st half. The NBA scouts had to like him scoring 12 in the last 4 to 5 minutes of the 1st half, with confidence. The last few minutes of the 1st half was fun. Each team answered one another blow for blow. UNC hit that 3 with 7 seconds left in the half, with Will right in the shooters grill. The GRIZ inbounded it, Cherry took it the length of the court for hoop and harm to close out the half!!! I loved it Will and Jamar both made big statements to close out the half.

After a track meet 1st half, I expected both teams to cool down. Again, both teams proved my thinking wrong, and I am happy they did. Overall, that was on the best played offensively executed BSC games I have seen in a long time. It goes to show how a well officiated game can make for a much better game. They only had one real bad call, calling Hutchison for a foul on a clean 2nd half block.

The 2nd half was a continuation of the 1st half, near perfect offensive execution by both teams, and a lot of tough shots hit by each team. The key move of the game does not show up on the stat sheet, but was huge in the outcome. When Tinkle decided to put Gregory on Unruh, suddenly Unruh was shut down. Gregory just would not let him see the ball when it was not in his hands. Gregory has become a shutdown defender to go with Cherry, Henderson, and Deshields. Dare I say, all our guards are great to exceptional defenders. I wish we would have seen Gregory sooner. Not sure, but guessing Wayne was playing it safe with his injury. Jordan told me after the game, he has a deep bruise, but will just get better. He says there is some slight pain, but nothing to worry about.

It was great to see Cherry, Jamar, and Ward all have great offensive games finally. Weisner was phenomenal in the 1st half on offese, and kept the GRIZ in the game until Jamar had enough of this being a close game. Will was balling big time. His shot looked better. He was creating for teammates well. He took the ball to the hole with confidence, to make things happen. He played great defense, not his or anyone's fault when your opponent hits tough shot after tough shot.

I was disappointed in our rebounding, just when it looked like we were turning the corner on the boards. I think some of us need to lay off Hutchison, he got some timely rebounds, made an impact with paint defense. He and Andy Martin, are becoming solid paint defenders, when the officials let them play. Speaking of officials, they gave an officiating clinic today, which is rare in the Big Sky Conference. They called an even game and consistent on both sides. They let the nit picky stuff go and let both teams play, and it reflected in a great fun game. I honestly seen one really bad call, and that was it.

Overall, not only am I happy the GRIZ won, but happy I seen a well played game by both teams. If BSC basketball can be played that way more often, maybe more people would give this conference some credit or show up for some games. Speaking of which, UNC fans, now that Denver Broncos are done, spend your money and get to the games. You have a fun team, with a bright future.

As for GRIZ fans, get to Dahlberg to watch one of the better shooting teams in the nation. Our shooting is for real, and we have a lot of shooters. The replay has just started on Altitude.

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

Mtgrizrule - thanks again for your great and thorough report!

 

[mtgrizrule]

I am glad I am watching the replay. Let me rephrase my assessment on Will. His 1st half was average. His 2nd half was where he balled and took control of this game. 1st half, Will gets an B-, 2nd half- A. Overall, B+ -to A-

 

[jon]

Was at the game as well and agree with most of what mtgriz said. My game thoughts are here - http://www.bigskybball.com/2013/01/montana-beats-northern-colorado-in.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It sure is fun watching Cherry and Jamar play....

 

[mtgrizrule]

Great summary Jon. Did not see you there. I meant to mention the GRIZ are in great position. Not only are they unbeaten, but have done so with the 2 most grueling conference road trips completed. The NAU/SAC, and UND/UNC road trips have to be 2 of the most grueling in any conference.

 

[BelierPeaux]

Yay for a Griz win! It's hard to be upset that it was close when both teams shot 50% or higher from the field. Thanks for all the updates. I've been too darn busy to post lately. Can't wait for the next few games!

 

[bearly visible]

And yes, I will enjoy a Griz victory. Just expected a little more separation from one of the best teams in the league vs one in the bottom half. Why is that so difficult to understand?

Pretty simple, the gap from top to bottom is not as big as you believe, especially a Griz team with a below average front court playing on the road.

I guess that's the difference between you and I. I don't think they're below average.

Got called a tool, huh? You should know that trying to talk basketball with fans who have no clue about the game, and who look at any and every critical comment as meaning you are a hater is futile. Why bother. You made some great points, and were slammed for making them. Join the club. The facts are that all of these close wins against Big Sky nobodies who are ranked near the bottom of the national rankings for Division I basketball teams proves nothing. If the Griz get into the NCAA tournament this season, they will be destroyed. I am a big Griz fan, as I presume you are. But if we have trouble, road or not, in soundly beating teams like NAU and N. Colorado, then we are slightly better than them, which still puts us well behind most other Division I teams in the nation. We have the guards to compete, but our bigs are terrible. This will be the kiss of death against a real team, like it was against BYU.

Most of the guys like to count the wins and are happy with that. I want us to rise to the level of Gonzaga, where we can truly compete with national caliber teams. I stand by my assertion that we have not beaten one quality team this season.

 

[Spanky]

bearly....you are correct. Most UM people are happy with the mediocrity of the Big Sky Conference. We have been in this conference for so long playing bottom dweller teams, they don't know the difference. Last night, the Griz playing in a high school gym with 300 people watching was tragic. We have a good team, well coached that would improve without doubt if we were in a good conference.

 

[Potomac Griz]

bearly....you are correct. Most UM people are happy with the mediocrity of the Big Sky Conference. We have been in this conference for so long playing bottom dweller teams, they don't know the difference. Last night, the Griz playing in a high school gym with 300 people watching was tragic. We have a good team, well coached that would improve without doubt if we were in a good conference.

Actually, he's not right. He just throws out stuff like how us BB fans are allegedly happy with the Big Sky, how we think we are better than <insert whatever top 25 team here> and all of that, so he has a point to argue with. The problem is, no one is saying what he claims we are saying. Just read the thread about the Big Sky Conference and you'll see that the large majority of us Griz BB fans are not pleased with how shitty the conference is.

Then he'll go on a rant using made up statistics, inaccurate statements, and flat out lies to try to prove his point that he knows so much about college basketball and has been a fan of the Griz for 82034 years (almost as many years as usernames he's had here).

Fact is, last year Growler/Wolfman/bearly visibile/Bear Pause/etc etc.. didn't even know where the Griz were playing when they played @UND. He ranted about how the Griz lost at home to UND.... Some knowledgeable fan good ol' Stevie is huh? :lol:

 

[Spanky]

Potomac....easy to understand why anyone wouldn't know the location of North Colorado. The facts are that he was correct regarding his points made of the Big Sky Conference. So are you. It is unfortunate that we are in the conference, but nothing will be done about it until we get a president thats worth a damn and an AD with a vision to develop UM athletics. In the meantime, the Griz will toil in the Big Sky against mostly unknown opponents and the fans will continue to be excited when we win.

 

[bearly visible]

bearly....you are correct. Most UM people are happy with the mediocrity of the Big Sky Conference. We have been in this conference for so long playing bottom dweller teams, they don't know the difference. Last night, the Griz playing in a high school gym with 300 people watching was tragic. We have a good team, well coached that would improve without doubt if we were in a good conference.

Actually, he's not right. He just throws out stuff like how us BB fans are allegedly happy with the Big Sky, how we think we are better than <insert whatever top 25 team here> and all of that, so he has a point to argue with. The problem is, no one is saying what he claims we are saying. Just read the thread about the Big Sky Conference and you'll see that the large majority of us Griz BB fans are not pleased with how shitty the conference is.

Then he'll go on a rant using made up statistics, inaccurate statements, and flat out lies to try to prove his point that he knows so much about college basketball and has been a fan of the Griz for 82034 years (almost as many years as usernames he's had here).

Fact is, last year Growler/Wolfman/bearly visibile/Bear Pause/etc etc.. didn't even know where the Griz were playing when they played @UND. He ranted about how the Griz lost at home to UND.... Some knowledgeable fan good ol' Stevie is huh? :lol:

My name is not Stevie. Stop misquoting me to try to make yourself look more intelligent than we know you are. By the way, I am done posting to you. You are a pathetic loser, and I will not waste keystrokes on a homer loser incapable of an intelligent discussion without childish taunts and misquotes. Go back to grade school. It is more your level.

For your information, I do not live live in Montana, which is why I mistakenly thought that game was a home game. Excuse me for making a mistake, but keep focusing on that if it makes you feel more intelligent.

 

[bearly visible]

Potomac....easy to understand why anyone wouldn't know the location of North Colorado. The facts are that he was correct regarding his points made of the Big Sky Conference. So are you. It is unfortunate that we are in the conference, but nothing will be done about it until we get a president thats worth a damn and an AD with a vision to develop UM athletics. In the meantime, the Griz will toil in the Big Sky against mostly unknown opponents and the fans will continue to be excited when we win.

You and I are on the same page. The current Big Sky conference is a shell of what it used to be. I guess too many of these fans are too young to remember the great rivalries UM had against Nevada, Weber, Idaho State, Gonzaga, and Idaho, when the Big Sky was competitive from top to bottom. In those days, the Big Sky was ranked in the middle of conferences nationally. Now, we are near the bottom.

But I don't want to burst the bubble of these Johnny Come Lately types who think that at 4-0 record against some of the worst teams in the nation is something to brag about.

I wonder what the poster with the screen name Citay has to say about this, since he seems to have been around in the 1970s and 1980s. How about it, Citay?

 

[GrizWhiz]

Potomac....easy to understand why anyone wouldn't know the location of North Colorado. The facts are that he was correct regarding his points made of the Big Sky Conference. So are you. It is unfortunate that we are in the conference, but nothing will be done about it until we get a president thats worth a damn and an AD with a vision to develop UM athletics. In the meantime, the Griz will toil in the Big Sky against mostly unknown opponents and the fans will continue to be excited when we win.

You and I are on the same page. The current Big Sky conference is a shell of what it used to be. I guess too many of these fans are too young to remember the great rivalries UM had against Nevada, Weber, Idaho State, Gonzaga, and Idaho, when the Big Sky was competitive from top to bottom. In those days, the Big Sky was ranked in the middle of conferences nationally. Now, we are near the bottom.

But I don't want to burst the bubble of these Johnny Come Lately types who think that at 4-0 record against some of the worst teams in the nation is something to brag about.

I wonder what the poster with the screen name Citay has to say about this, since he seems to have been around in the 1970s and 1980s. How about it, Citay?

Correction (Again)....6-0 against some of the worst teams in the nation......the Big Sky is extraordinarily weak the year, but if it wasn't, you'd find something else to cry about Mr. Dill ! :thumb:

 

[Potomac Griz]

Potomac....easy to understand why anyone wouldn't know the location of North Colorado. The facts are that he was correct regarding his points made of the Big Sky Conference. So are you. It is unfortunate that we are in the conference, but nothing will be done about it until we get a president thats worth a damn and an AD with a vision to develop UM athletics. In the meantime, the Griz will toil in the Big Sky against mostly unknown opponents and the fans will continue to be excited when we win.

Actually it wasn't a matter of him not knowing where UND (not UNC) was, it was that he was ranting about how the Griz lost at home to UND when they actually had played on the road @UND. So much for him following Griz basketball closely huh? He doesn't even know whether it's a home or road game and yet he still rants about it like he knows what he's talking about :lol:

And yes, he's correct about the Big Sky being weak... the thing is no one is saying the Big Sky isn't weak. He's arguing a point that no one is arguing with him about, and then making claims about other people's opinions which are flat out untrue...just so he can argue with it. It's really pathetic how Stevie keeps coming back to these forums, pulling the same bullshit and then pretending he's not Growler

 

[Potomac Griz]

bearly....you are correct. Most UM people are happy with the mediocrity of the Big Sky Conference. We have been in this conference for so long playing bottom dweller teams, they don't know the difference. Last night, the Griz playing in a high school gym with 300 people watching was tragic. We have a good team, well coached that would improve without doubt if we were in a good conference.

Actually, he's not right. He just throws out stuff like how us BB fans are allegedly happy with the Big Sky, how we think we are better than <insert whatever top 25 team here> and all of that, so he has a point to argue with. The problem is, no one is saying what he claims we are saying. Just read the thread about the Big Sky Conference and you'll see that the large majority of us Griz BB fans are not pleased with how shitty the conference is.

Then he'll go on a rant using made up statistics, inaccurate statements, and flat out lies to try to prove his point that he knows so much about college basketball and has been a fan of the Griz for 82034 years (almost as many years as usernames he's had here).

Fact is, last year Growler/Wolfman/bearly visibile/Bear Pause/etc etc.. didn't even know where the Griz were playing when they played @UND. He ranted about how the Griz lost at home to UND.... Some knowledgeable fan good ol' Stevie is huh? :lol:

My name is not Stevie. Stop misquoting me to try to make yourself look more intelligent than we know you are. By the way, I am done posting to you. You are a pathetic loser, and I will not waste keystrokes on a homer loser incapable of an intelligent discussion without childish taunts and misquotes. Go back to grade school. It is more your level.

Aww, I've upset lil Stevie Dill His cover is blown and he thought he was being so clever with username #82374.

For your information, I do not live live in Montana, which is why I mistakenly thought that game was a home game. Excuse me for making a mistake, but keep focusing on that if it makes you feel more intelligent.

You follow Griz basketball so closely and are such an expert on it, yet you don't even know whether it's a home game or road game? If I lived in Tokyo and followed the Griz I can guarantee you I'd know whether they are at home or on the road... and if I didn't I sure as hell wouldn't rant about it without knowing the facts first. But then again... I'm not like you, and I typically like to have the facts first before making a post You on the other hand just like to spew your usual drivel with absolutely no factual information to back it up, and make up your own "facts" to support your argument. Then when someone calls you on it, get butthurt. That sound about right?

So how long do you plan on keeping this username anyway? A couple weeks? When can we look forward to your new username? I got a suggestion for you, since you are going with the whole "invisible" theme...

How about "Crouching Stevie Hidden Hand". :thumb:

 

[Grizbacker1]

bearly....you are correct. Most UM people are happy with the mediocrity of the Big Sky Conference. We have been in this conference for so long playing bottom dweller teams, they don't know the difference. Last night, the Griz playing in a high school gym with 300 people watching was tragic. We have a good team, well coached that would improve without doubt if we were in a good conference.

Actually, he's not right. He just throws out stuff like how us BB fans are allegedly happy with the Big Sky, how we think we are better than <insert whatever top 25 team here> and all of that, so he has a point to argue with. The problem is, no one is saying what he claims we are saying. Just read the thread about the Big Sky Conference and you'll see that the large majority of us Griz BB fans are not pleased with how shitty the conference is.

Then he'll go on a rant using made up statistics, inaccurate statements, and flat out lies to try to prove his point that he knows so much about college basketball and has been a fan of the Griz for 82034 years (almost as many years as usernames he's had here).

Fact is, last year Growler/Wolfman/bearly visibile/Bear Pause/etc etc.. didn't even know where the Griz were playing when they played @UND. He ranted about how the Griz lost at home to UND.... Some knowledgeable fan good ol' Stevie is huh? :lol:

My name is not Stevie. Stop misquoting me to try to make yourself look more intelligent than we know you are. By the way, I am done posting to you. You are a pathetic loser, and I will not waste keystrokes on a homer loser incapable of an intelligent discussion without childish taunts and misquotes. Go back to grade school. It is more your level.

For your information, I do not live live in Montana, which is why I mistakenly thought that game was a home game. Excuse me for making a mistake, but keep focusing on that if it makes you feel more intelligent.

yeah right STEPHAN, which as big a pussy as you are should be Stephanie. Pickle Boy Dill and his 5' 6" in shoes with lifts, now that is funny. now run along and rent a bartender who can help you up on a stool while you piss away money in the keno machine :loser:

 

[becker2117]

bearly....you are correct. Most UM people are happy with the mediocrity of the Big Sky Conference. We have been in this conference for so long playing bottom dweller teams, they don't know the difference. Last night, the Griz playing in a high school gym with 300 people watching was tragic. We have a good team, well coached that would improve without doubt if we were in a good conference.

Actually, he's not right. He just throws out stuff like how us BB fans are allegedly happy with the Big Sky, how we think we are better than <insert whatever top 25 team here> and all of that, so he has a point to argue with. The problem is, no one is saying what he claims we are saying. Just read the thread about the Big Sky Conference and you'll see that the large majority of us Griz BB fans are not pleased with how shitty the conference is.

Then he'll go on a rant using made up statistics, inaccurate statements, and flat out lies to try to prove his point that he knows so much about college basketball and has been a fan of the Griz for 82034 years (almost as many years as usernames he's had here).

Fact is, last year Growler/Wolfman/bearly visibile/Bear Pause/etc etc.. didn't even know where the Griz were playing when they played @UND. He ranted about how the Griz lost at home to UND.... Some knowledgeable fan good ol' Stevie is huh? :lol:

My name is not Stevie. Stop misquoting me to try to make yourself look more intelligent than we know you are. By the way, I am done posting to you. You are a pathetic loser, and I will not waste keystrokes on a homer loser incapable of an intelligent discussion without childish taunts and misquotes. Go back to grade school. It is more your level.

For your information, I do not live live in Montana, which is why I mistakenly thought that game was a home game. Excuse me for making a mistake, but keep focusing on that if it makes you feel more intelligent.

yeah right STEPHAN, which as big a pussy as you are should be Stephanie. Pickle Boy Dill and his 5' 6" in shoes with lifts, now that is funny. now run along and rent a bartender who can help you up on a stool while you piss away money in the keno machine :loser:

Isnt it CLASSIC! haha he claims not to be stevie, yet we have been reading his posting style for so long and its SO easy to pick up on. He says all the same little insults and sayings, and uses it all in the same context. Like the "childish taunts, homer loser incapable of an intelligent discussion...go back to grade school." that that is just from one post...i would say good effort growler, but..i guess it wasnt that good of an effort!

 

[mtgrizrule]

I think you all are talking about stephanie. Dill picks his ass because he is one giant hemmorrhoid.
He is the egriz hemmorrhoid being he is a pain in the ass.

 

[Potomac Griz]

He can't even deny that he's Growler anymore on this new username.

See this comment from him earlier in this thread:

For your information, I do not live live in Montana, which is why I mistakenly thought that game was a home game. Excuse me for making a mistake, but keep focusing on that if it makes you feel more intelligent.

And then see this post from Growler1 (Little Stevie Dill) last year where he was confused (shocking) about whether the Griz were at home or on the road against UND:

Griz vs UND last year

I got news for ya. If we can't beat NORTH DAKOTA at home, it could be a very long season. As I stated last season, our lack of quality inside players will kill us. Selvig in NOT an inside player, and can not rebound. He is strictly a one-dimentional 3-point shooter. Take that away from him with good defense, and is disappears out there.

He can't even keep his usernames straight I guess we shouldn't expect him to know whether the Griz are at home or on the road...