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Griz running back discussion.

Griz Addict said:
SaskGriz said:
So you want us to fundamentally change our offensive scheme? Why?
I was saying what I prefer. I didn't say anything about changing anything. But, how does relying on 1-2 rbs change our offensive scheme? That makes little to zero sense.
It may very well be little to zero sense but we average 38 attempts a game so far this season. Johnson gets 9, our feature back would get 20 and the other two, and everybody else would get the other 9 between them.

At the moment; Johnson gets 9, Ostmo 8, Harris 8, Knight 5. Keep in mind those 38 attempts also includes mop up time, when we are killing the clock off with Brown, Britt, Childs, and Janacaro. So in reality it's probably more like 31-32 meaningful carries a game. Johnson and one back get 29 of those and two of our three headed system get a carry a piece? I see that as a fundamental change.
 
With teams running RPO, which are now many teams, the ratio of runs to passes is significantly altered by the defense put up against the O and how the QB makes the reads. A D loading the box, or one attacking through the box, is going to cause more passes.
 
My wife and I are wine tasting in the Willamette valley. Our server right now is Ostmo's stepbrother. He noticed my Dartmouth baseball shirt. An Ostmo played baseball at Dartmouth a few year’s ago.
 
mthoopsfan said:
With teams running RPO, which are now many teams, the ratio of runs to passes is significantly altered by the defense put up against the O and how the QB makes the reads. A D loading the box, or one attacking through the box, is going to cause more passes.

Ummmm...that is true for every offensive scheme, not just RPO.
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
With teams running RPO, which are now many teams, the ratio of runs to passes is significantly altered by the defense put up against the O and how the QB makes the reads. A D loading the box, or one attacking through the box, is going to cause more passes.

Ummmm...that is true for every offensive scheme, not just RPO.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
With teams running RPO, which are now many teams, the ratio of runs to passes is significantly altered by the defense put up against the O and how the QB makes the reads. A D loading the box, or one attacking through the box, is going to cause more passes.

Ummmm...that is true for every offensive scheme, not just RPO.

No, that's not correct. Every offensive scheme isn't set up for the QB to read whether to hand the ball off (or keep the ball) or pass, on every RPO play, like the RP is. In many offensive schemes, a play called as a run is going to be a run, not matter what the defense, or particular players, do on the play. And, I just repeated what Hauck said in answer to a question. I'd like to give your comment a C+, but it's an F.
 
mthoopsfan said:
UncleP said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Are you so football illiterate that you don't realize what Soldier said is incorrect?

Indeed I am. I know nothing about the game.

I’m curious. Is your wife enjoying the quality time with you tasting wine in Oregon while you bang away at your phone on a football fan board?
 
mthoopsfan said:
My wife and I are wine tasting in the Willamette valley. Our server right now is Ostmo's stepbrother. He noticed my Dartmouth baseball shirt. An Ostmo played baseball at Dartmouth a few year’s ago.
Small world. Enjoy the wine tasting!
 
UncleP said:
mthoopsfan said:
Are you so football illiterate that you don't realize what Soldier said is incorrect?

Indeed I am. I know nothing about the game.

I’m curious. Is your wife enjoying the quality time with you tasting wine in Oregon while you bang away at your phone on a football fan board?

My post took the same time as it took her to have a sip of wine, and talk to the Ostmo kid. Does it take you a long time to make a simple post?
 
mthoopsfan said:
UncleP said:
Indeed I am. I know nothing about the game.

I’m curious. Is your wife enjoying the quality time with you tasting wine in Oregon while you bang away at your phone on a football fan board?

My post took the same time as it took her to have a sip of wine, and talk to the Ostmo kid. Does it take you a long time to make a simple post?
Penn 23, Dartmouth 17 in 2 OTs at Dartmouth. Simple post. Fast, too.
 
mthoopsfan said:
SoldierGriz said:
Ummmm...that is true for every offensive scheme, not just RPO.

No, that's not correct. Every offensive scheme isn't set up for the QB to read whether to hand the ball off (or keep the ball) or pass, on every RPO play, like the RP is. In many offensive schemes, a play called as a run is going to be a run, not matter what the defense, or particular players, do on the play. And, I just repeated what Hauck said in answer to a question. I'd like to give your comment a C+, but it's an F.

It has never been more obvious you never played the game. Disenroll from this today as your submission is un-gradable.

Every offensive scheme known to mankind will pass the ball more when the defense loads the box. Period. In fact, many d-coordinators will force this action when they don't believe the QB has the skills or the skill players to throw the ball effectively. The RPO has nothing to do with it.

So sad to see you go downhill so quickly. You had a good ride, but the game is simply too much for you at this point. Find something new...maybe jigsaw puzzles while being fed your pudding.
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
No, that's not correct. Every offensive scheme isn't set up for the QB to read whether to hand the ball off (or keep the ball) or pass, on every RPO play, like the RP is. In many offensive schemes, a play called as a run is going to be a run, not matter what the defense, or particular players, do on the play. And, I just repeated what Hauck said in answer to a question. I'd like to give your comment a C+, but it's an F.

It has never been more obvious you never played the game. Disenroll from this today as your submission is un-gradable.

Every offensive scheme known to mankind will pass the ball more when the defense loads the box. Period. In fact, many d-coordinators will force this action when they don't believe the QB has the skills or the skill players to throw the ball effectively. The RPO has nothing to do with it.

So sad to see you go downhill so quickly. You had a good ride, but the game is simply too much for you at this point. Find something new...maybe jigsaw puzzles while being fed your pudding.

You don't even know how RPO works. Too funny. A RPO QB reads a few individual defensive players/moves, not whether the box is loaded. Those reads may or may not be related to loading the box. A QB can make reads to pass even if the box isn't loaded. Reads often key off of how pass defenders start to defend the play, and which direction they react.

"Every offensive scheme known to mankind will pass the ball more when the defense loads the box." So, you think teams like NDSU and Air Force only pass when an opponent loads the box against them? What is wrong with you?

Again, feel free to consult Bobby. He certainly doesn't agree with you on this one.

Are you capable of making a comment without a bunch of insults? That's a tell that you know you don't know what you are talking about, in my view.
 
mthoopsfan said:
SoldierGriz said:
It has never been more obvious you never played the game. Disenroll from this today as your submission is un-gradable.

Every offensive scheme known to mankind will pass the ball more when the defense loads the box. Period. In fact, many d-coordinators will force this action when they don't believe the QB has the skills or the skill players to throw the ball effectively. The RPO has nothing to do with it.

So sad to see you go downhill so quickly. You had a good ride, but the game is simply too much for you at this point. Find something new...maybe jigsaw puzzles while being fed your pudding.

You don't even know how RPO works. Too funny. A RPO QB reads a few individual defensive players/moves, not whether the box is loaded. Those reads may or may not be related to loading the box. A QB can make reads to pass even if the box isn't loaded. Reads often key off of how pass defenders start to defend the play, and which direction they react.

"Every offensive scheme known to mankind will pass the ball more when the defense loads the box." So, you think teams like NDSU and Air Force only pass when an opponent loads the box against them? What is wrong with you?

Again, feel free to consult Bobby. He certainly doesn't agree with you on this one.

Are you capable of making a comment without a bunch of insults? That's a tell that you know you don't know what you are talking about, in my view.

Wrong again. GRADE OF F FOR YOUR SUBMISSIONS TO THIS THREAD.

Even in the RPO designs QBs are either allowed to change the play or look to the sideline for a play change from the Coaches. It's called an audible.

I realize those were not a thing when you were watching George Blanda.

Please stop posting. You have no idea what you are talking about. Worst poster on eGriz by a mile.

Stick to your real passion...defending grown men dealing coke to kids in Montana. It's what you're good at.

Also, you have some pudding on your cheek...call your nurse.
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
You don't even know how RPO works. Too funny. A RPO QB reads a few individual defensive players/moves, not whether the box is loaded. Those reads may or may not be related to loading the box. A QB can make reads to pass even if the box isn't loaded. Reads often key off of how pass defenders start to defend the play, and which direction they react.

"Every offensive scheme known to mankind will pass the ball more when the defense loads the box." So, you think teams like NDSU and Air Force only pass when an opponent loads the box against them? What is wrong with you?

Again, feel free to consult Bobby. He certainly doesn't agree with you on this one.

Are you capable of making a comment without a bunch of insults? That's a tell that you know you don't know what you are talking about, in my view.

Wrong again. GRADE OF F FOR YOUR SUBMISSIONS TO THIS THREAD.

Even in the RPO designs QBs are either allowed to change the play or look to the sideline for a play change from the Coaches. It's called an audible.

I realize those were not a thing when you were watching George Blanda.

Please stop posting. You have no idea what you are talking about. Worst poster on eGriz by a mile.

Stick to your real passion...defending grown men dealing coke to kids in Montana. It's what you're good at.

Also, you have some pudding on your cheek...call your nurse.

You really goofed this one up. You don't even know how RPO works. As the play starts, the QB usually reads a linebacker or a d-back, and then decides to pass or do run play based on the read. The read dictates whether it's a pass or run. A coach or QB changing the play ahead of time, is not the RPO. Feel free to get any credible poster to agree with you on this one.

You are one of the worst posters on egriz, because you act like you know what you're talking about, and half of the time you don't have a clue. You've lost all of your credibility, if you ever had any.
 
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