HookedonGriz said:Dang, that’s a tough one. I’ll bee very surprised if he gets to keep his GA role. In the days of Uber and friends willing to help, don’t drive drunk my man.
maroonandsilver said:You don't embarrass Travis. Good by Jordan.
EverettGriz said:HookedonGriz said:Dang, that’s a tough one. I’ll bee very surprised if he gets to keep his GA role. In the days of Uber and friends willing to help, don’t drive drunk my man.
This.
Look, I love JG. But you CANT make such bad decisions, especially with as easy as this one is to avoid, as Hooked points out.
PlayerRep said:maroonandsilver said:You don't embarrass Travis. Good by Jordan.
You may be right. However, Gregory is just a GA, and not a coach, and I suppose that could cut either way. I.e. he might be expendable. He's still fairly young. I read Haslam's comments as fairly neutral or even slightly promising. If the arrest was not for a clear dui, and the aggravated part is for not blowing, I suppose the charge may get dropped or plead down. The coach may not care. But it's probably good news for Gregory, as of now, that he's not already terminated. Doesn't look like he's suspended either.
Looks like UM is gathering more facts, and thinking about this. As they should.
It's obviously UM and the coach's decision, but I hope Gregory comes out okay. In this day and age, I guess I am fine either way. Personally, I think we all make mistakes. I am on the forgiving side. Also, believe in gathering all of the facts. Many/some dui's go away. My understanding is that refusal to blow (and I don't have any facts) will almost always lead to an arrest.
cclarkblues said:PlayerRep said:maroonandsilver said:You don't embarrass Travis. Good by Jordan.
You may be right. However, Gregory is just a GA, and not a coach, and I suppose that could cut either way. I.e. he might be expendable. He's still fairly young. I read Haslam's comments as fairly neutral or even slightly promising. If the arrest was not for a clear dui, and the aggravated part is for not blowing, I suppose the charge may get dropped or plead down. The coach may not care. But it's probably good news for Gregory, as of now, that he's not already terminated. Doesn't look like he's suspended either.
Looks like UM is gathering more facts, and thinking about this. As they should.
It's obviously UM and the coach's decision, but I hope Gregory comes out okay. In this day and age, I guess I am fine either way. Personally, I think we all make mistakes. I am on the forgiving side. Also, believe in gathering all of the facts. Many/some dui's go away. My understanding is that refusal to blow (and I don't have any facts) will almost always lead to an arrest.
Assuming that this is the case, is it better for a person to blow or not to blow if you are unsure if you can pass?
PlayerRep said:cclarkblues said:PlayerRep said:maroonandsilver said:You don't embarrass Travis. Good by Jordan.
You may be right. However, Gregory is just a GA, and not a coach, and I suppose that could cut either way. I.e. he might be expendable. He's still fairly young. I read Haslam's comments as fairly neutral or even slightly promising. If the arrest was not for a clear dui, and the aggravated part is for not blowing, I suppose the charge may get dropped or plead down. The coach may not care. But it's probably good news for Gregory, as of now, that he's not already terminated. Doesn't look like he's suspended either.
Looks like UM is gathering more facts, and thinking about this. As they should.
It's obviously UM and the coach's decision, but I hope Gregory comes out okay. In this day and age, I guess I am fine either way. Personally, I think we all make mistakes. I am on the forgiving side. Also, believe in gathering all of the facts. Many/some dui's go away. My understanding is that refusal to blow (and I don't have any facts) will almost always lead to an arrest.
Assuming that this is the case, is it better for a person to blow or not to blow if you are unsure if you can pass?
I am not a criminal or dui lawyer, so really don't know. The last time I talked to a dui lawyer, which was a while ago, I was told the following. If someone was okay with losing the driver's license and then fighting to get it back sooner than later (which is not easy), then: don't blow if you think you're close to the line. Because you can fight the charge, with a lawyer, easier if you don't have a blow that is over the line. If you know you are way under, then blowing avoids losing the driver's license. Never asked about blowing if way over. If you don't blow, you lose your license, for a fairly long time. Avoid saying much and don't say anything stupid. Don't act stupid at the station, as you're are being videoed. Don't say or co anything that would be evidence of being drunk. Don't know about the field test. I assume if you refuse, that could lead to immediate arrest. Those tests are pretty hard. Not sure how some people would do one them sober. Think that police can now get a call-in (or something) warrant to force some type of test. Don't know it that's blood test, or blow, or both. Don't know how much that is used. Think the rules change if one has had prior dui's, or at least 2. The blow machine at the station is considered more reliable and less subject to attack in court (as being unreliable). Think the handhelds can be attacked more easily in proceedings, but not necessarily easily.
Take this all with a big bag of salt. I really don't know. Perhaps some others on the board can provide better information, or a link, or point out mistakes. If you want get venture capital, sell your valuable company, or take your company public, let me know. Ha.
PlayerRep said:maroonandsilver said:You don't embarrass Travis. Good by Jordan.
You may be right. However, Gregory is just a GA, and not a coach, and I suppose that could cut either way. I.e. he might be expendable. He's still fairly young. I read Haslam's comments as fairly neutral or even slightly promising. If the arrest was not for a clear dui, and the aggravated part is for not blowing, I suppose the charge may get dropped or plead down. The coach may not care. But it's probably good news for Gregory, as of now, that he's not already terminated. Doesn't look like he's suspended either.
Looks like UM is gathering more facts, and thinking about this. As they should.
It's obviously UM and the coach's decision, but I hope Gregory comes out okay. In this day and age, I guess I am fine either way. Personally, I think we all make mistakes. I am on the forgiving side. Also, believe in gathering all of the facts. Many/some dui's go away. My understanding is that refusal to blow (and I don't have any facts) will almost always lead to an arrest.
cclarkblues said:PlayerRep said:cclarkblues said:PlayerRep said:You may be right. However, Gregory is just a GA, and not a coach, and I suppose that could cut either way. I.e. he might be expendable. He's still fairly young. I read Haslam's comments as fairly neutral or even slightly promising. If the arrest was not for a clear dui, and the aggravated part is for not blowing, I suppose the charge may get dropped or plead down. The coach may not care. But it's probably good news for Gregory, as of now, that he's not already terminated. Doesn't look like he's suspended either.
Looks like UM is gathering more facts, and thinking about this. As they should.
It's obviously UM and the coach's decision, but I hope Gregory comes out okay. In this day and age, I guess I am fine either way. Personally, I think we all make mistakes. I am on the forgiving side. Also, believe in gathering all of the facts. Many/some dui's go away. My understanding is that refusal to blow (and I don't have any facts) will almost always lead to an arrest.
Assuming that this is the case, is it better for a person to blow or not to blow if you are unsure if you can pass?
I am not a criminal or dui lawyer, so really don't know. The last time I talked to a dui lawyer, which was a while ago, I was told the following. If someone was okay with losing the driver's license and then fighting to get it back sooner than later (which is not easy), then: don't blow if you think you're close to the line. Because you can fight the charge, with a lawyer, easier if you don't have a blow that is over the line. If you know you are way under, then blowing avoids losing the driver's license. Never asked about blowing if way over. If you don't blow, you lose your license, for a fairly long time. Avoid saying much and don't say anything stupid. Don't act stupid at the station, as you're are being videoed. Don't say or co anything that would be evidence of being drunk. Don't know about the field test. I assume if you refuse, that could lead to immediate arrest. Those tests are pretty hard. Not sure how some people would do one them sober. Think that police can now get a call-in (or something) warrant to force some type of test. Don't know it that's blood test, or blow, or both. Don't know how much that is used. Think the rules change if one has had prior dui's, or at least 2. The blow machine at the station is considered more reliable and less subject to attack in court (as being unreliable). Think the handhelds can be attacked more easily in proceedings, but not necessarily easily.
Take this all with a big bag of salt. I really don't know. Perhaps some others on the board can provide better information, or a link, or point out mistakes. If you want get venture capital, sell your valuable company, or take your company public, let me know. Ha.
Thanks PR. Thankfully it isn't a factor in my life anymore, but Someone was watching out for me when I was younger.
AZGrizFan said:cclarkblues said:PlayerRep said:cclarkblues said:Assuming that this is the case, is it better for a person to blow or not to blow if you are unsure if you can pass?
I am not a criminal or dui lawyer, so really don't know. The last time I talked to a dui lawyer, which was a while ago, I was told the following. If someone was okay with losing the driver's license and then fighting to get it back sooner than later (which is not easy), then: don't blow if you think you're close to the line. Because you can fight the charge, with a lawyer, easier if you don't have a blow that is over the line. If you know you are way under, then blowing avoids losing the driver's license. Never asked about blowing if way over. If you don't blow, you lose your license, for a fairly long time. Avoid saying much and don't say anything stupid. Don't act stupid at the station, as you're are being videoed. Don't say or co anything that would be evidence of being drunk. Don't know about the field test. I assume if you refuse, that could lead to immediate arrest. Those tests are pretty hard. Not sure how some people would do one them sober. Think that police can now get a call-in (or something) warrant to force some type of test. Don't know it that's blood test, or blow, or both. Don't know how much that is used. Think the rules change if one has had prior dui's, or at least 2. The blow machine at the station is considered more reliable and less subject to attack in court (as being unreliable). Think the handhelds can be attacked more easily in proceedings, but not necessarily easily.
Take this all with a big bag of salt. I really don't know. Perhaps some others on the board can provide better information, or a link, or point out mistakes. If you want get venture capital, sell your valuable company, or take your company public, let me know. Ha.
Thanks PR. Thankfully it isn't a factor in my life anymore, but Someone was watching out for me when I was younger.
Amen to that.
Then again, in my day the cop would stop you, then just follow you home to make sure you got home alright. Different world today.
AZGrizFan said:PlayerRep said:maroonandsilver said:You don't embarrass Travis. Good by Jordan.
You may be right. However, Gregory is just a GA, and not a coach, and I suppose that could cut either way. I.e. he might be expendable. He's still fairly young. I read Haslam's comments as fairly neutral or even slightly promising. If the arrest was not for a clear dui, and the aggravated part is for not blowing, I suppose the charge may get dropped or plead down. The coach may not care. But it's probably good news for Gregory, as of now, that he's not already terminated. Doesn't look like he's suspended either.
Looks like UM is gathering more facts, and thinking about this. As they should.
It's obviously UM and the coach's decision, but I hope Gregory comes out okay. In this day and age, I guess I am fine either way. Personally, I think we all make mistakes. I am on the forgiving side. Also, believe in gathering all of the facts. Many/some dui's go away. My understanding is that refusal to blow (and I don't have any facts) will almost always lead to an arrest.
Agreed. He made a mistake. It's not like he waded into a bar and opened fire. Let him learn from it and move on. No need to destroy his career because of it.