Fullbacks...

[fanofzoo]

If there are no holes for the fullback to run through, how exactly would adding one help?

Nailed it.

Play poker much, conference is coming, got to keep some cards.

 

[daGrizJ]

Zone Read - Spread offences have a hard time running outside the tackles. Things like sweeps and pitches where you pull a guard or tackle (like the older Redskin counter-trey) are proactive calls, where as the zone-read is reactive (obviously). Fullbacks don't really help the run game when you are going out of the gun, but I agree it would be nice to see some fullback lead, under center short yardage packages.

Sneed pulled the ball beautifully on one play I remember, and kept for a pretty decent gain. If we've got such a good running QB, I'm surprised we haven't seen more zone read. Anyone have any insights into why we haven't?

Almost no one on this board is willing to admit that the offense the Griz are running this year is damn similar to what we have run the last few years (mostly due to O-line weakness and Sneed's quick passing/running ability). There is no place for a fullback in this 4-5 WR/single back sets/pass to set up the run/spread hurry up. (47 passes?) Get over it, there will most likely be no "Hauck" power run game. For me, that's a good thing because it shows me he has adapted and improved as a coach.

Sneed, it seems to me, needs a bit more coaching in the zone read. Many of the zone read plays their DEs appeared to be breaking to the inside zone but he gave the ball to the RB anyhow. The several times he kept it (and didn't fumble) there seemed to be room to run to the outside. Along with keeping his eyes down field, I'm thinking this will be a coaching focus.

I like this team. I think there is enough total talent (Olson..WOW) to win 7-9 games this year.

Also, WIU runs the Fly Sweep. Expect it several times this weekend.

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

Zone Read - Spread offences have a hard time running outside the tackles. Things like sweeps and pitches where you pull a guard or tackle (like the older Redskin counter-trey) are proactive calls, where as the zone-read is reactive (obviously). Fullbacks don't really help the run game when you are going out of the gun, but I agree it would be nice to see some fullback lead, under center short yardage packages.

Sneed pulled the ball beautifully on one play I remember, and kept for a pretty decent gain. If we've got such a good running QB, I'm surprised we haven't seen more zone read. Anyone have any insights into why we haven't?

Almost no one on this board is willing to admit that the offense the Griz are running this year is damn similar to what we have run the last few years (mostly due to O-line weakness and Sneed's quick passing/running ability). There is no place for a fullback in this 4-5 WR/single back sets/pass to set up the run/spread hurry up. (47 passes?) Get over it, there will most likely be no "Hauck" power run game. For me, that's a good thing because it shows me he has adapted and improved as a coach.

Sneed, it seems to me, needs a bit more coaching in the zone read. Many of the zone read plays their DEs appeared to be breaking to the inside zone but he gave the ball to the RB anyhow. The several times he kept it (and didn't fumble) there seemed to be room to run to the outside. Along with keeping his eyes down field, I'm thinking this will be a coaching focus.

I like this team. I think there is enough total talent (Olson..WOW) to win 7-9 games this year.

Also, WIU runs the Fly Sweep. Expect it several times this weekend.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but one thing to keep in mind is just because there is "Zone-Read" action by the QB doesn't actually mean the play is an actual zone-read option for the QB. Those could have easily just been inside zone running plays (straight call to hand off to the RB).

 

[George Ferguson]

The Griz don't have a single FB listed on the regular season roster that runs in the weekly game notes, which is different than the roster on gogriz.com. In the game notes roster, Le'Texier is listed as a TE, Janacaro TE and VIka LB

 

[grizzliesthetics]

Zone Read - Spread offences have a hard time running outside the tackles. Things like sweeps and pitches where you pull a guard or tackle (like the older Redskin counter-trey) are proactive calls, where as the zone-read is reactive (obviously). Fullbacks don't really help the run game when you are going out of the gun, but I agree it would be nice to see some fullback lead, under center short yardage packages.

Out of the shotgun spread team are now using the the fullback as a "sniffer" locating behind the guard. There are some advantages to this:

1) FB is in superior position for kickouts.
2) FB is in superior position for leading back on counter plays
3) FB sneaks into pass routes and is nearly impossible to see and key
4) FB is so hard to see, the deception on dives, wedges and traps is outstanding. Its a sneak attack.

 

[SaskGriz]

Zone Read - Spread offences have a hard time running outside the tackles. Things like sweeps and pitches where you pull a guard or tackle (like the older Redskin counter-trey) are proactive calls, where as the zone-read is reactive (obviously). Fullbacks don't really help the run game when you are going out of the gun, but I agree it would be nice to see some fullback lead, under center short yardage packages.

Out of the shotgun spread team are now using the the fullback as a "sniffer" locating behind the guard. There are some advantages to this:

1) FB is in superior position for kickouts.
2) FB is in superior position for leading back on counter plays
3) FB sneaks into pass routes and is nearly impossible to see and key
4) FB is so hard to see, the deception on dives, wedges and traps is outstanding. Its a sneak attack.

Interesting, thanks.

 

[zoo guy]

Get it back outside. Get that old "Grizzly screen" going, with some pullin O-line.