Frank Thomas' 500th, Craig Biggio's 3000th

[MidNiteRambler]

I know most of you attribute any baseball milestone to steroid use, but Frank Thomas hit his 500th career home run and Craig Biggio got his 3,000th career hit yesterday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2920433

Anybody want to dispute the legitimacy of these two guys? I'd love to hear it.

 

[Havregriz]

I know most of you attribute any baseball milestone to steroid use, but Frank Thomas hit his 500th career home run and Craig Biggio got his 3,000th career hit yesterday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2920433

Anybody want to dispute the legitimacy of these two guys? I'd love to hear it.

It is too bad the action of many has even tainted the record of a few. Does anyone really trust any of the MLB marks???? For that matter does anyone even care?

 

[sid2000]

I would have to say that many people do still care about MLB records. There now, unfortunately, are many records and stats being questioned because of steroids, but this is a sport where you get into the HOF almost 100% on the numbers you put up, not anything else is really considered by the voters. This has, and always will be a numbers game, so I would say that people definitely still care.

I'm so happy for Biggio, I've been a lifelong fan of him and the Astros. The man is definitely a class-act and a Hall of Famer.

 

[jagur1]

I would have to say that many people do still care about MLB records. There now, unfortunately, are many records and stats being questioned because of steroids, but this is a sport where you get into the HOF almost 100% on the numbers you put up, not anything else is really considered by the voters. This has, and always will be a numbers game, so I would say that people definitely still care.

I'm so happy for Biggio, I've been a lifelong fan of him and the Astros. The man is definitely a class-act and a Hall of Famer.

Well I guess if Don Sutton is a HOF then Biggio is. But he doesn't belong in the inner room with the likes of Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Babe Ruth, ect...

 

[MidNiteRambler]

I would have to say that many people do still care about MLB records. There now, unfortunately, are many records and stats being questioned because of steroids, but this is a sport where you get into the HOF almost 100% on the numbers you put up, not anything else is really considered by the voters. This has, and always will be a numbers game, so I would say that people definitely still care.

I'm so happy for Biggio, I've been a lifelong fan of him and the Astros. The man is definitely a class-act and a Hall of Famer.

Well I guess if Don Sutton is a HOF then Biggio is. But he doesn't belong in the inner room with the likes of Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Babe Ruth, ect...

Williams and Ruth didn't get 3,000 hits.

 

[jagur1]

I would have to say that many people do still care about MLB records. There now, unfortunately, are many records and stats being questioned because of steroids, but this is a sport where you get into the HOF almost 100% on the numbers you put up, not anything else is really considered by the voters. This has, and always will be a numbers game, so I would say that people definitely still care.

I'm so happy for Biggio, I've been a lifelong fan of him and the Astros. The man is definitely a class-act and a Hall of Famer.

Well I guess if Don Sutton is a HOF then Biggio is. But he doesn't belong in the inner room with the likes of Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Babe Ruth, ect...

Williams and Ruth didn't get 3,000 hits.

NO! but, they did a heck of a lot more with the hits they got then Biggio, plus Biggio didn't get pitched around 100 times a season either. (or side note become a Ace fighter pilot in 2 wars, once as a jet fighter and once as propelor jockey)

 

[MidNiteRambler]

I totally agree with you (although I doubt Ruth got pitched around the way Bonds does). I'm just saying that these marks still matter and should be celebrated, that's all. only 27 players have got 3,000 hits and 21 got 500 hrs. Thats out of the thousands that have played in the Majors.

 

[jagur1]

I totally agree with you (although I doubt Ruth got pitched around the way Bonds does). I'm just saying that these marks still matter and should be celebrated, that's all. only 27 players have got 3,000 hits and 21 got 500 hrs. Thats out of the thousands that have played in the Majors.

I agree on all counts.
(it's not manly to pitch around someone. I also don't think it's fair that the Armor Barry wears to the plate is better than the armor our troops have on Humvees in Iraq)

 

[grizfan_#2]

teddy ballgame fought in a war during the prime of his career! and no one else has hit over .400 since. biggio is ligit but frank thomas might be a little questionable. i doubt that he has but he might of. you never know these days.

 

[The Real World]

I think the impressive thing about Biggio is that he compiled all of those hits while also taking a beating on his body. He is going to probably retire as the most hit batsman in baseball history plus those years as a catcher and in centerfield (playing center in that park in Houston is no treat for sure) probably didnt help things either.

I think Biggio goes into the Hall in first year or so of his eligibility. Not too sure about Thomas though because by the time he is eligible, there could possiby be a lot more members of the 500 home run club, further dilluting that accomplishment.