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Football and School Don't Go Together: UCLA QB

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" Look, football and school don't go together. They just don't. Trying to do both is like trying to do two full-time jobs. There are guys who have no business being in school, but they're here because this is the path to the NFL. There's no other way. Then there's the other side that says raise the SAT eligibility requirements. OK, raise the SAT requirement at Alabama and see what kind of team they have. You lose athletes and then the product on the field suffers." Josh Rosen, UCLA QB.

This quote is multiple questions into the Q&A.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2722587-josh-rosen-qa-ucla-qb-on-injuries-ncaa-and-post-nfl-goal-to-own-the-world
 
These comments were debated all day today on every sports radio station on XM.

I have always respected anyone who chose to be a "student athlete" because I do believe it is like having two full time jobs, esp football. It's very impressive that the UM athlete overall GPA is now somewhere around 3.

I do, however, feel it is the only way for many people to qualify for college. The lower SAT schools provide that, and, for a small percentage, to continue on to professional sports. Also, again mostly with the high profile sports, if a player is in the 99% that do not continue on, the local, personal recognition and free education they receive gives them an advantage to succeed in many other professional opportunities after school. With that said, in the instances where the schools are making a bundle of money from a particular program, I feel there should also be some method of compensation for the players. Maybe some form of 401K they are vetted for after graduation.
It's an important and complicated subject I think.
 
I think that is the heart of the issue. I agree with him. As alumni and fans we are asking much much more of the student athlete than we ever do of the general student population and we expect them to excel in both the role of the student and of the athlete. At the very least there should be some livable stipend given with scholarships and to non-scholarship athletes so they can perform these dual roles to the best of their ability.
 
I'm fine with a small stipend for athletes. But I know many students who work 40+ a week to put themselves through college. It sucks for them too, but if you want it badly enough....
 
I agree. I had to work when I was in school. The difference is that I got paid for the work I did. Under the current system we are essentially asking the student athlete to not only go to school and play athletics but also to hold down a job just to get a little spending money?! That is more than anyone should bare.
 
How about having the NFL fund some of those stipends. I mean they have benefited from having players "developed" at no cost to them. I believe that's the biggest reason behind their age limit. They don't want to spend the $ to develop a player for 3-4 years who isn't actually playing. Yes I know only a small percentage make it to the NFL but it could be good PR for the league.
 
I think the media/whatever is blowing this way out of proportion and being overly critical of him.

Being a full time student athlete is tough. I did it for a while in college, and I wasn't nearly at the level that guys like Rosen are. You put in 18 hours a day into keeping the books right, training, rehab, and meetings. Then, at the end of the day, the only thing that they care about is your end performance. And you're criticized over it.

Guys like Rosen are under a lot of pressure and stress. This is a senior QB with NFL scouts watching him. He was given a chance to give his opinion, and he gave it in a really measured and honest fashion.

If I was Josh, I wouldn't give a shit what those overpaid "analysts" think about me.


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He could chose not to play football...


Either way 90 % of Students aren't born with a silver spoon... so all have hard times and hard decisions to make.

PS I agree with his statement.
 
Gaeilge1 said:
I think that is the heart of the issue. I agree with him. As alumni and fans we are asking much much more of the student athlete than we ever do of the general student population and we expect them to excel in both the role of the student and of the athlete. At the very least there should be some livable stipend given with scholarships and to non-scholarship athletes so they can perform these dual roles to the best of their ability.
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Plus, the media wants to publicize and capitalize off of extra little or big mistake they make, and some on the internet want them to be absolutely perfect citizens.

Yes, they have two jobs, and that eats up most of their time and distracts from the fun and learning side of college. Yes, they get the press and positive benefits of playing. Yes, they must maintain reasonable academics. Yes, some get a schollie or partial. Yes, they get nothing of financial value as the school makes a bundle of money off them, whether tickets, tv or apparrel. But, because it is a "privilege" to play football, they must also be damn near perfect and certainly not make any big mistakes.

Sorry, but I think the players are getting screwed, at least in some respects.

Because of their long hours, and the money and prestige they earn for the school, I think they should get one "free" misdemeanor a year. Joke. Just kidding. Ha. LOL.
 
He's right, IMO. I did it a couple of years as well. BB, working on campus and classes - but could not maintain the grades. College athletics take so much time - then there's working for some spending $ - and oh ya, homework and classes. Coach begged me to stay but I couldn't do it, would have failed classes. I do not know how these guys do it and maintain the grades.
 
My daughter went to a Div. 3 school (no athletic scholarships), was a chemistry major with a 3.00+ GPA, worked around 20 hours a week, was a track and field athlete, was president of her sorority, graduated in four years and received a full-tuition scholarship to grad school. If you want it enough, you can do it.
 
EverettGriz said:
I'm fine with a small stipend for athletes. But I know many students who work 40+ a week to put themselves through college. It sucks for them too, but if you want it badly enough....
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+1

This has been the case now since...ever, and has always been doable for those who really want it. Some work, some work out (practice), for others, some of both. People get that it's hard, and there is a reward.

A stipend seems completely reasonable to me, though. Help them out a little bit more. That also is doable. :twocents:
 
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