DUI.......Anyone?

[Growler1]

Growler, post a link to an ARTICLE written about the University of Montana football program in a negative light from a national media outlet. I.E. a newspaper or magazine that reaches over 500,000 readers or the website of that outlet. And, to be clear, I said article of a national media outlet because you said "articles even being written by the national sports media about the off-field problems with Montana colleges". The Huffington Post is not a national media outlet, nor was that an article, it was a blog. The ticker on Espn. com is not an article. TMZ and Deadspin are not articles, and not national sports media outlets, they are blogs. I'll bet you I can find a video of a guy scratching his ass in front of 100 football players, coaches and athletic trainers on a hot day in Missoula, MT before you can post that article. Want to try?

We might know that some dumbass like you would try to spin this. You better be careful, or you'll surpass your butt-hole buddy Playa Rep for being the biggest apologist for the criminal element in both of these football programs. At least the rest of us know where you stand. Pathetic. You are no Griz fan that anyone I am associated with would include in our fan base.

I guess they don't have national media up in that Po-dunk town you live in. Next time I take a dump, i'll name it after you. Peace brother!

 

[argh!]

So he is suppossed to not defend himself if attacked by someone? That is what it sounds like on how it went down? If that turns out it is the case then heck yeah he should be reinstated.

Far different than rolling your truck and almost hitting a house PLASTERED out of your mind.

I didn't think you kittens would allow yourselves to use the Jimmy Wilson Defense! :roll:

Well its different, JW is a thug, Trammel is just a tough mofo :thumb:

Wilson isn't a thug. Why do you have to be such a jerk? Or are you always a jerk?

shit, i just agreed with a greenie post. holy crap.

 

[reed rothchild]

Growler, post a link to an ARTICLE written about the University of Montana football program in a negative light from a national media outlet. I.E. a newspaper or magazine that reaches over 500,000 readers or the website of that outlet. And, to be clear, I said article of a national media outlet because you said "articles even being written by the national sports media about the off-field problems with Montana colleges". The Huffington Post is not a national media outlet, nor was that an article, it was a blog. The ticker on Espn. com is not an article. TMZ and Deadspin are not articles, and not national sports media outlets, they are blogs. I'll bet you I can find a video of a guy scratching his ass in front of 100 football players, coaches and athletic trainers on a hot day in Missoula, MT before you can post that article. Want to try?

I don't have a dog in this race, but you do realize that Huffingtonpost.com gets 15.6 million hits a day, right? To declare that the blogosphere is not a viable news medium is a pretty clueless statement. To state that ESPN.com is not a sports news medium is equally naive.

 

[PlayerRep]

Growler, post a link to an ARTICLE written about the University of Montana football program in a negative light from a national media outlet. I.E. a newspaper or magazine that reaches over 500,000 readers or the website of that outlet. And, to be clear, I said article of a national media outlet because you said "articles even being written by the national sports media about the off-field problems with Montana colleges". The Huffington Post is not a national media outlet, nor was that an article, it was a blog. The ticker on Espn. com is not an article. TMZ and Deadspin are not articles, and not national sports media outlets, they are blogs. I'll bet you I can find a video of a guy scratching his ass in front of 100 football players, coaches and athletic trainers on a hot day in Missoula, MT before you can post that article. Want to try?

I don't have a dog in this race, but you do realize that Huffingtonpost.com gets 15.6 million hits a day, right? To declare that the blogosphere is not a viable news medium is a pretty clueless statement. To state that ESPN.com is not a sports news medium is equally naive.

HavGriz' point was whether there were "articles". Consider sticking to that point, instead of changing the discussion. Hits don't mean anyone is looking at the UM non-artice. In any event, HuffPost doesn't have much credibility with alot of people, especially in sports. ESPN obviously does have cred in sports. I think HavGriz is in the media business, so I'd enjoy seeing you or anyone debating him on the media.

 

[rgrizfan]

Growler, post a link to an ARTICLE written about the University of Montana football program in a negative light from a national media outlet. I.E. a newspaper or magazine that reaches over 500,000 readers or the website of that outlet. And, to be clear, I said article of a national media outlet because you said "articles even being written by the national sports media about the off-field problems with Montana colleges". The Huffington Post is not a national media outlet, nor was that an article, it was a blog. The ticker on Espn. com is not an article. TMZ and Deadspin are not articles, and not national sports media outlets, they are blogs. I'll bet you I can find a video of a guy scratching his ass in front of 100 football players, coaches and athletic trainers on a hot day in Missoula, MT before you can post that article. Want to try?

I don't have a dog in this race, but you do realize that Huffingtonpost.com gets 15.6 million hits a day, right? To declare that the blogosphere is not a viable news medium is a pretty clueless statement. To state that ESPN.com is not a sports news medium is equally naive.

The Huff is a joke...when did they report Joe-Pa died? A day early...Just one example!!!

 

[hawaiiangriz]

I just think it's hilarious how some people (Cat AND Griz fans) want players thrown off teams for making mistakes that I'm sure, A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ON THIS FRIGGIN BOARD HAVE DONE THEMSELVES, BUT JUST DIDN'T GET CAUGHT!

Really assholes? You people that want players thrown off teams for this type of stuff (sex crimes TOTALLY excluded), just amaze me. You gonna sit there and tell me you have NEVER drove when you probably shouldn't have??? Or are you the Virgin Mary?

LOOK IN THE MIRROR before you condemn all other people would ya you douche bags. I agree that driving drunk is wrong, but who among us has NEVER done it? The big guy upstairs once said, 'Let he without sin, cast the first stone'! Sounds to me like there are tons of Cat fans AND Griz fans living in glass houses....

Feel free to now crucify me which I am sure you will..........

 

[PlayerRep]

Hawaii, I'm liking alot of your posts these days. I like someone who takes a stand in support of UM, or athletes, or something--instead of criticizing everything. Keep em coming.

 

[Growler1]

Growler, post a link to an ARTICLE written about the University of Montana football program in a negative light from a national media outlet. I.E. a newspaper or magazine that reaches over 500,000 readers or the website of that outlet. And, to be clear, I said article of a national media outlet because you said "articles even being written by the national sports media about the off-field problems with Montana colleges". The Huffington Post is not a national media outlet, nor was that an article, it was a blog. The ticker on Espn. com is not an article. TMZ and Deadspin are not articles, and not national sports media outlets, they are blogs. I'll bet you I can find a video of a guy scratching his ass in front of 100 football players, coaches and athletic trainers on a hot day in Missoula, MT before you can post that article. Want to try?

I don't have a dog in this race, but you do realize that Huffingtonpost.com gets 15.6 million hits a day, right? To declare that the blogosphere is not a viable news medium is a pretty clueless statement. To state that ESPN.com is not a sports news medium is equally naive.

HavGriz' point was whether there were "articles". Consider sticking to that point, instead of changing the discussion. Hits don't mean anyone is looking at the UM non-artice. In any event, HuffPost doesn't have much credibility with alot of people, especially in sports. ESPN obviously does have cred in sports. I think HavGriz is in the media business, so I'd enjoy seeing you or anyone debating him on the media.

And you are supposedly an attorney, and I would love to see you debate this with any ethical attorney.

Playa Rep Spin-Job #895

 

[Growler1]

Hawaii, I'm liking alot of your posts these days. I like someone who takes a stand in support of UM, or athletes, or something--instead of criticizing everything. Keep em coming.[/quot


I'm sure he will sleep better tonight knowing that you approve of him. We all just wait and hope for your stamp of approval. But alas, it rarely comes to most. :lol:

 

[hawaiiangriz]

I shall sleep soundly tonight WITHOUT the help of Ambien just so you know..... :lol:

 

[George Ferguson]

Not that I need to respond to Growler because he did NOTHING to back up his claim that there have been ARTICLES written, but I'll do it anyway. First, as I stated before, all I asked for was for him to support his claim that "articles even being written by the national sports media about the off-field problems with Montana colleges". His words not mine. No actual articles have been on ESPN.COM. Posts on the ticker ARE NOT ARTICLES. And neither is the huffington post. I'm well aware of how popular the huff post and many blogs like it are and how much they are read. And I read the entire COLUMN about the Griz that was posted there. That's the difference. Growler claims legitimate articles are being written about the University of Montana football team by NATIONAL sports media, and all I'm doing is refuting that. An OPINION blog is NOT a news article, no matter how many people read it. Is it a powerful medium? perhaps. But it's still an opinion column/blog, just like ones that have appeared on deadspin, TMZ and one written by Pat Forde of ESPN. That was my whole point. As far as I know, ESPN.COM, Sports Illustrated, the USA Today, The New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Sporting News, the Chicago Tribune or the Miami Herald to name a few have yet to print an actual story chronicling the troubles at UM, and my decision to point that out and refute Growler's claim to the contrary has no bearing on how I personally feel about UM football player's recent legal problems.

 

[hawaiiangriz]

I agree - jeez now I'm agreeing with havgriz AND growler. Both have valid points, although when it comes to this topic, I have to go with havgriz. Anyone can find anything THEY WISH to find on ANY topic if they look hard enough....UM is absolutely no different than no other school when it comes to the issues we are facing right now. Trust me - I can name several instances where BIG TIME schools absolutely buried stories like we are facing right now, especially the sex crimes. DUI's happen at EVERY SINGLE COLLEGE. If you think they don't, you are kidding yourselves - those issues are just better handled at say, BYU or Notre Dame... Think our athletes, or MSU's, are the only ones that drink or get into fights? Are you stupid? :shock:

 

[garizzalies]

the last several posts = blame the media, glass houses, everyone else does it, and if they had the internet back in the day...

how have you guys failed to get or comprehend the privilege vs. right speech? these arguements only apply to some joe schmoe off the street. athletes get so much attention because they represent UM. its kinda like quid pro quo. they get to play football and their school is free, and in return, they don't break the law for 4 years. how fricken hard is that?

 

[Growler1]

Not that I need to respond to Growler because he did NOTHING to back up his claim that there have been ARTICLES written, but I'll do it anyway. First, as I stated before, all I asked for was for him to support his claim that "articles even being written by the national sports media about the off-field problems with Montana colleges". His words not mine. No actual articles have been on ESPN.COM. Posts on the ticker ARE NOT ARTICLES. And neither is the huffington post. I'm well aware of how popular the huff post and many blogs like it are and how much they are read. And I read the entire COLUMN about the Griz that was posted there. That's the difference. Growler claims legitimate articles are being written about the University of Montana football team by NATIONAL sports media, and all I'm doing is refuting that. An OPINION blog is NOT a news article, no matter how many people read it. Is it a powerful medium? perhaps. But it's still an opinion column/blog, just like ones that have appeared on deadspin, TMZ and one written by Pat Forde of ESPN. That was my whole point. As far as I know, ESPN.COM, Sports Illustrated, the USA Today, The New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Sporting News, the Chicago Tribune or the Miami Herald to name a few have yet to print an actual story chronicling the troubles at UM, and my decision to point that out and refute Growler's claim to the contrary has no bearing on how I personally feel about UM football player's recent legal problems.

You are trying way too hard to discredit my post, and, when you do that, it is very obvious that you are spinning your argument by focusing on minutia and technicalities rather that addressing the major point of my post, which is that frequent transgressions of our football players are creating a poor image of our football programs at UM and MSU. Since you don't freakin get it, i'll try to dumb-it down for you.

The national media, which includes TV, talk radio, as well as print, picked up on the continued criminal problems of both Montana universities, and either wrote about it, discussed it in a TV segment, or discussed it in live radio sports talk. This unwanted negative publicity caused considerable negative focus on our two state schools, created a thug-program image of us in areas of the country where they know nothing about our programs, and caused several of my friends from back East to phone me the ask what is going on with Montana's football team? Now, if you don't believe that the continued actions by athletes at these two schools have cast a negative light on our state, and its two football programs, you are truly beyond reason, in denial, and drinking Kool-Aid laced with confectioners 10X!

Now, spin this!

 

[AllWeatherFan]

But the good news is that the national media hasn't picked up on Growly.

 

[Growler1]

But the good news is that the national media hasn't picked up on Growly.

Wrong, CNN did a segment on one of my companies in the early 90s. I have also had an interview written about me in a national publication on entrepreneurship. Next.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

It was a feature story on humility.

 

[Growler1]

It was a feature story on humility.

You wouldn't understand about accomplishment. Humility is for wannabees. I am proud of what I have accomplished. I did it without inheriting a dime, or getting financial help from anyone. It was the American dream of having a good idea, taking risk, working my arse off, and watching it grow into something big. I have also been humbled by having a company that I started go bankrupt. This is what Obama is trying to squelch in this country, and why we are in such bad shape as a nation.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

 

[George Ferguson]

Damn, i hate keeping this going but the statements from you Growler just get more outrageous. SO, while I know you want do it, I can't help myself, so here goes. Can you please provide links to clips from the national television segments that have been done on UM's rogue football program? I must have missed those on ESPN, ESPN News, CNN, Real Sports with Bryant Gumble and all the other national tv outlets that ran these so-called segments.