DUI.......Anyone?

[PlayerRep]

I have to congratulate UM on this one, looks like the admin is finally pulling their Head out of their A%%

At UM, vice president Jim Foley said Maus has been been suspended indefinitely from the football team, pending resolution of the court proceedings. He said athletic officials also will implement the Student Athlete Code of Conduct, and any related sanctions.

Of course seems kind of wierd that some no-name walk-on gets this treatments when a certain back-up linebacker did the exact same thing coming down the rattle snake and they were more than happy to let the "legal system run its course." Sorry, maybe I am being too cynical. Perhaps the UM admin has grown-up a little bit and should be applauded for taking an appropriate position on this situation.

Just for PR, yes this should result in at least a one game suspension (for the DUI) and perhaps a second or third for lying to the officer. The DUI is a mistake many young people make, the second is clearly a character issue that needs some serious consequences to put this young man back on the right path.

Well, said LB didn't obstruct justice by giving a false name to the police, either. Contrary to what many of you (particularly cat fans) believe, there ARE degrees for these types of issues.

I think the punishment -- like nearly every punishment I've seen from either school -- is appropriate.

Didn't Stuber get at least a two-game suspension (or was it 3), as well as other considerable internal discipline. I assume he wasn't a walk-on. If what's being said in this thread is all true about Maus (and I don't have any info myself), then he will be lucky to get only a two-game suspension.

I don't agree with the Cat who says the other stuff is a character issue, altho it does make the incident more serious. Hey Doeb, are you ready to admit, yet, that Kemp/Johnson were never charged with assault of a police officer? Talk about a character issue. In my view, you lack character for refusing to admit, after being asked multiple times, to admit that you were wrong and unfairly hammering these two kids.

 

[rgrizfan]

This kind of behavior is what UM is looking for.

My best guess is he will be rewarded for this incident and it will be chalked up to "kids being kids". O'Day is probably trying to get Maus to autograph his beer can collection.


One other thing, why are parents so quick to rush down and bail their kids out of jail? I would have let mine sit there for a week or so after an incident like this.

This from the poster who brags about drinking and driving frequently. Note the phase in his avatar.

Where is this "phase" in my avatar bragging about drinking and driving? I love how some of you douchebags have little to know reading comprehension and I challenge you to post where I have ever said it was acceptable.

My stance is that I just dont care if people do it or not and that far more sober people kill people every year than people under the influence.....so I just dont get the knee jerk PC reaction to the whole drinking and driving thing.

Would you care if a drunk driver killed your child???

 

[PlayerRep]

Does Trammel still have his scholarship? Interesting concept of being dismissed from the team, but keeping the scholarship (at least for awhile). Dismissed does play better in the press and on the internet, but being dismissed with the possibility of being reinstated isn't really being dismissed in my book. Not big deal either way to me, i.e. on what it's called.

Yeah, sort of like having a charge reduced doesn't mean that the act was not committed. You condemn Ash, but take pride in getting charges reduced. Hypocrite.

Nope, saying a player was not "dismissed" seems to indicate the player would have lost his scholarship. I didn't condemn Ash at all. I just asked whether Trammel still had his scholarship. I don't care one way or another about Trammel's situation. You really aren't a good reader, are you? In fact, you are a bad reader.

Actually, having charges dropped and reduced does indicate the charged act was not committed. Of course, there are exceptions to this. It certainly means that the prosecutor can't prove the initial charge or charges.

Bringing charges doesn't mean the charged act or acts were committed either. In fact, it's common that the initial charges were not committed.

Spin-Doctor post # 705

I'm a bad reader!!! Oh my gawd, I won't sleep for weeks!

Not only do you have a reading problem, you aren't even smart enough to keep your mouth shut or have a better response that that.

 

[Screamin_Eagle174]

If that many players are getting caught, I wonder how many are DUI and not getting caught.

How many are on any teams' roster? Answer that and you've got your total (as long as it's not Oral Roberts or BYU. Those players only drink at home....).

Question....why should we care about the ones that are not getting caught?

Because they're setting a bad example that the less savvy/coordinated players are following.

 

[Tokyogriz]

zzzzzz

 

[getgrizzy]

Didn't Stuber get at least a two-game suspension (or was it 3), as well as other considerable internal discipline.

stuberg was suspended for two games (western state and cal poly) in 2010. he got off light considering he wasn't ticketed for doing damage to property or leaving the scene of an accident. other than the dui all he got was a failure to report. he was also involved in a videotaped assault on campus a few years ago and was kicked off the helena high football team his senior year. sounds like a real class act.

 

[GRZFTBL]

This kind of behavior is what UM is looking for.

My best guess is he will be rewarded for this incident and it will be chalked up to "kids being kids". O'Day is probably trying to get Maus to autograph his beer can collection.


One other thing, why are parents so quick to rush down and bail their kids out of jail? I would have let mine sit there for a week or so after an incident like this.

This from the poster who brags about drinking and driving frequently. Note the phase in his avatar.

Where is this "phase" in my avatar bragging about drinking and driving? I love how some of you douchebags have little to know reading comprehension and I challenge you to post where I have ever said it was acceptable.

My stance is that I just dont care if people do it or not and that far more sober people kill people every year than people under the influence.....so I just dont get the knee jerk PC reaction to the whole drinking and driving thing.

Would you care if a drunk driver killed your child???

 

[Griz 'n]

It's a lot easier to suspend indefinitely in the off season than when you have a game coming up next
weekend. . .

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

This kind of behavior is what UM is looking for.

My best guess is he will be rewarded for this incident and it will be chalked up to "kids being kids". O'Day is probably trying to get Maus to autograph his beer can collection.


One other thing, why are parents so quick to rush down and bail their kids out of jail? I would have let mine sit there for a week or so after an incident like this.

This from the poster who brags about drinking and driving frequently. Note the phase in his avatar.

Where is this "phase" in my avatar bragging about drinking and driving? I love how some of you douchebags have little to know reading comprehension and I challenge you to post where I have ever said it was acceptable.

My stance is that I just dont care if people do it or not and that far more sober people kill people every year than people under the influence.....so I just dont get the knee jerk PC reaction to the whole drinking and driving thing.

Would you care if a drunk driver killed your child???

I would be upset that he was dead but the blame would lie on me for not protecting him and him for not getting out of the way. This need to blame somebody for an accident is really out of control.

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[WILD_CAT]

It's a lot easier to suspend indefinitely in the off season than when you have a game coming up next
weekend. . .

Funny how that works isn't it?

 

[WaGriz4life]

It's a lot easier to suspend indefinitely in the off season than when you have a game coming up next
weekend. . .

Funny how that works isn't it?

How it works at MSU too. I will bet that Trammell ends up suiting up for the Bobcats next year. He will be reinstated in the Fall and given a "2nd chance" by Pastor Ash

 

[doebrmn]

Hey PR,

Go back and read my posts. I quoted your source so if it is wrong that is your problem, not mine. Bottom line, the player put his hands on the policie officer which is an assault. If the CA decides not to charge it, so be it, but it doesn't change the fact. Being that I wasn't involved, I can only surmise that they wrote it as resisting arrest (misdemeanor) so they wouldn't have to arrest him for felony assault due to the fact it was a police officer. And again, doesn't change the fact that from day one I told you it would be plead down to a disorderly conduct (which it was) and UM came out looking like pathetic losers for the way they handled the situation.

But don't worry, the NCAA is currently doing its own investigation of how UM has handled these situations so we can let it be the final arbiter on the matter.

 

[wbtfg]

It's a lot easier to suspend indefinitely in the off season than when you have a game coming up next
weekend. . .

Funny how that works isn't it?

How it works at MSU too. I will bet that Trammell ends up suiting up for the Bobcats next year. He will be reinstated in the Fall and given a "2nd chance" by Pastor Ash

I agree with everyone. It seems there should be a standard operating procedure. The time of year (mid-season/off-season) should play no part in how punishments are handled.

Does this set a precident that all DUI's from this point forward at UM are automatic suspension from the team until things are worked out in the courts?

Similarily, are all MSU football players who get into fights now kicked off the team unless the court of law proves self defense?

 

[EverettGriz]

looking like pathetic losers

Ohhh, someone's looking like a pathetic loser, all right!! :lol:



And no, the NCAA is not conducting an investigation. But thanks for the playing the "I'm-a-cat-fan-and-we-can't-beat-the-GRIZ-so-I-have-to-pray-for-an-NCAA-investigation Game!!! We have some nice parting gifts for you....

 

[WaGriz4life]

I think Trammell being "kicked off the team" is debateable. To me kicked off the team means scholarship yanked and he'll never be seen at another Bobcat Football practice or game again. Some have indicated he will still be on scholarship and other MSU players on twitter indicated that Trammell will have a chance to be reinstated.

 

[doebrmn]

Might need to check your facts there.................

 

[wbtfg]

I think Trammell being "kicked off the team" is debateable. To me kicked off the team means scholarship yanked and he'll never be seen at another Bobcat Football practice or game again. Some have indicated he will still be on scholarship and other MSU players on twitter indicated that Trammell will have a chance to be reinstated.

Totally agree. I am not sure whether or not Trammell is still on scholarship, or whether or not, if reinstated, he will be on scholarship next year. Those are all good questions.

I'd be pretty disappointed if MSU reinstates Trammell after publically stating he has been dismissed from the team. To me it shows either MSU AD is wishy washy, OR that they jumped the gun before having all pertinent information. Either way would be embarassing for the Athletic Dept.

That said, I don't think this was ever Ash's decision. I think it immediately went to Peter Fields. So those praising or cursing Ash should probably redirect their comments towards Peter Fields.

 

[WaGriz4life]

Might need to check your facts there.................

enlighten us on these "facts"

 

[getgrizzy]

Might need to check your facts there.................

enlighten us on these "facts"

if we were the subject of an ncaa investigation, it'd be all over the media. don't m.s.u. -- make siht up.

 

[WaGriz4life]

Might need to check your facts there.................

enlighten us on these "facts"

if we were the subject of an ncaa investigation, it'd be all over the media. don't m.s.u. -- make siht up.

What are you talking about? I've been talking about Trammell not being kicked off MSU's team.