Delaney wants 2-3 more years, or more

[Blgs Griz Fan]

PR, I agree MD is not the interim HC but he should be treated as so. I believe his original contract was interim and he was given a contract extension. If he is no longer interim and the HC job was given to him, is the University in violation of state practices for hiring State employees? Does that not mandate advertising the position availability and accepting applications? Maybe RE's administration has violated state hiring laws?
I still say have feelers out for the HC position to become available at the end of the season and encourage interested parties to apply including MD and any of the assistants currently on staff that may have interest.

 

[Spanky]

When the time comes, do you think Engstrom/Haslam will take the easy way out and hire an existing assistant? Maybe they will conduct a traditional UM back room national search?

 

[getgrizzy]

all he has to do is finish 10-2 or better this year and win a playoff game or two and all will forgiven. the conference is down and our non-league schedule is weak other than possibly appy.

 

[Griz66]

Interesting discussion and a very interesdting season coming up. I do hope we do well but the schedule is not exactly a cake walk. HC is much more than a great recruiter plus we should remember that UM is a pretty easy place to recruit--past records, tremedous stadium with great crowd support etc. Delaney is no doubt a great person but HC needs to be much more than that and just becasue you are a good position coach does not make you a good HC--track record speaks for itself and track record is none too great plus his age to me is a huge factor--we need a young up and comer with great enthusiasm and a real motivator and disciplinarian. Also must remember that salary offering is going to preclude us from getting the real cream of the crop up and comer. If I remember right Pease was a finalist when Pflu was hired and look where he is now and his salary is dramatically more than UM could ever even think of paying. Let's wait and see how the season turns out and hope that regardless of the final record that Delaney will do what is right for he future

 

[garizzalies]

maybe so, but I don't care what kids are on the field returning a kick when they are coached to be 20 yards off the line....cough, cough....Southern Utah

Do you really think Mick called that play?

I really think that the head coach is ultimately responsible for what his assistant coach calls.

I agree, but that's doesn't mean the head coach made the call. I assume you understand the difference between making a dumb call, and having someone on your staff who made a dumb call? You do see the difference, don't you?

you gotta be f***ing kidding me? To make that statement, you either weren't at the SUU game or have dementia. Wait a minute, aren't you the jackass that's always telling people to STFU because they don't know shit about FB?
The punt wasn't just some random call that slipped passed the HC. It clearly was a strategic scheme they had been working on all week in practice. In fact, the call everyone rails on wasn't the only time they ran it in that game. Earlier in the game, Peter Winner muffed a ball inside the 10 that he shouldn't even have been attempting to field. I don't think most griz fans understand the total stupidity of the SUU punt "scheme." It goes well beyond vacating the line of scrimmage (multiple times). Think about it: the whole strategy was to set up a PUNT return by Peter-fricken-win. It was destined to fail, and it did fail, TWICE! It's dumb enuf to call that play once. To call it twice, you need your head examined. By calling it earlier, the SUU staff had a chance to adjust. The proof was in the pudding: when the punter saw the formation a second time he looked like a kid on x-mas morning. I guess we should be happy they didn't call it a 3rd time.

 

[garizzalies]

I assume you understand the difference between making a dumb call, and having someone on your staff who made a dumb call? You do see the difference, don't you?

Yes, the differnce is: it is even worse to let your staff make a dumb call. Because then the HC looks doubly dumb: once for the dumb call itself and twice for letting it get called.

 

[PlayerRep]

Do you really think Mick called that play?

I really think that the head coach is ultimately responsible for what his assistant coach calls.

I agree, but that's doesn't mean the head coach made the call. I assume you understand the difference between making a dumb call, and having someone on your staff who made a dumb call? You do see the difference, don't you?

you gotta be f***ing kidding me? To make that statement, you either weren't at the SUU game or have dementia. Wait a minute, aren't you the jackass that's always telling people to STFU because they don't know shit about FB?
The punt wasn't just some random call that slipped passed the HC. It clearly was a strategic scheme they had been working on all week in practice. In fact, the call everyone rails on wasn't the only time they ran it in that game. Earlier in the game, Peter Winner muffed a ball inside the 10 that he shouldn't even have been attempting to field. I don't think most griz fans understand the total stupidity of the SUU punt "scheme." It goes well beyond vacating the line of scrimmage (multiple times). Think about it: the whole strategy was to set up a PUNT return by Peter-fricken-win. It was destined to fail, and it did fail, TWICE! It's dumb enuf to call that play once. To call it twice, you need your head examined. By calling it earlier, the SUU staff had a chance to adjust. The proof was in the pudding: when the punter saw the formation a second time he looked like a kid on x-mas morning. I guess we should be happy they didn't call it a 3rd time.

This still doesn't mean the head coach made the call. It's my understanding that the head coach is fairly hands off in allowing his assistants to make calls. My guess is that the ST coach made the call.

 

[PlayerRep]

I assume you understand the difference between making a dumb call, and having someone on your staff who made a dumb call? You do see the difference, don't you?

Yes, the differnce is: it is even worse to let your staff make a dumb call. Because then the HC looks doubly dumb: once for the dumb call itself and twice for letting it get called.

Nope, if a head coach believes in giving latitude to his assistants (which many coaches have as a general philosophy), then there are going to be some bad calls (because no one makes perfect calls all the time). Of course, that doesn't mean that the head coach shouldn't override certain calls.

 

[garizzalies]

you did it again. You keep using the singular version of "call." The play was called multiple times. That's the whole point: it was no accident.

 

[PlayerRep]

you did it again. You keep using the singular version of "call." The play was called multiple times. That's the whole point: it was no accident.

In your parlance, does "multiple times" mean twice?

So what, that still doesn't mean that the head coach made the call. That is what was being discussed earlier. Who made the call? Nothing else; nothing more. I know you want to have a different discussion, but that's just not the case.

 

[garizzalies]

"So what?" Wow. Never thought i'd see that from you. Is this the first argument you've ever lost? Hey Chris/egriz, do i get some kind of award?

The whole point of this thread is Delaney's [possible lack of] coaching ability--"that is what was being discussed." The bottom line is he allowed the call (twice). to me, that's even dumber than calling it himself.

I really hope he learned from the bone-headed mistakes he made last year, and that those mistakes were really just him being a "rookie" coach, but i am very skeptical of that because Mick's mistakes seem way dumber to me than say BH's globe of death or Pflu's 3-qbs at the same time play.

 

[narly]

Do you really think Mick called that play?

I really think that the head coach is ultimately responsible for what his assistant coach calls.

I agree, but that's doesn't mean the head coach made the call. I assume you understand the difference between making a dumb call, and having someone on your staff who made a dumb call? You do see the difference, don't you?

you gotta be f***ing kidding me? To make that statement, you either weren't at the SUU game or have dementia. Wait a minute, aren't you the jackass that's always telling people to STFU because they don't know shit about FB?
The punt wasn't just some random call that slipped passed the HC. It clearly was a strategic scheme they had been working on all week in practice. In fact, the call everyone rails on wasn't the only time they ran it in that game. Earlier in the game, Peter Winner muffed a ball inside the 10 that he shouldn't even have been attempting to field. I don't think most griz fans understand the total stupidity of the SUU punt "scheme." It goes well beyond vacating the line of scrimmage (multiple times). Think about it: the whole strategy was to set up a PUNT return by Peter-fricken-win. It was destined to fail, and it did fail, TWICE! It's dumb enuf to call that play once. To call it twice, you need your head examined. By calling it earlier, the SUU staff had a chance to adjust. The proof was in the pudding: when the punter saw the formation a second time he looked like a kid on x-mas morning. I guess we should be happy they didn't call it a 3rd time.

+1

Player Rep is never going to admit to anything wrong with the very individuals whom he spends 90% of his time trying to suck up to.

 

[MrTitleist]

Welcome back, Growler. Hope you enjoyed your very temporary stay.

 

[Rockmeister]

Bobby probably won't have a job at UNLV after this year. Here's UNLV's Schedule:

08/29/13 at Minnesota TV Minneapolis, MN 4:00 PM PT (L)
09/07/13 vs. Arizona LAS VEGAS TBA (L)
09/14/13 vs. Central Michigan LAS VEGAS TBA (W)
09/21/13 vs. Western Illinois LAS VEGAS TBA (W)
09/28/13 at New Mexico * Albuquerque, NM TBA (W)
10/12/13 vs. Hawai'i * LAS VEGAS TBA (L)
10/19/13 at Fresno State * Fresno, CA TBA (L)
10/26/13 at Nevada, Reno * Reno, NV TBA (L)
11/02/13 vs. San Jose State * LAS VEGAS TBA (L)
11/09/13 vs. Utah State * LAS VEGAS TBA (W)
11/21/13 at Air Force * TV Colorado Springs, CO 6:30 PM PT (L)
11/30/13 vs. San Diego State * LAS VEGAS TBA (L)

If Bobby wins five of those games he's still out. I only count four wins, and a couple of those are iffy. Only a bowl appearance will save his job. I know there's lots of Bobby haters on this sight, but I wouldn't mind seeing him on the side lines again.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

If Bobby loses to the Leathernecks, that'll be his last game at UNLV.

 

[Rockmeister]

He lost to NAU last year and still exists there. My brother's a season ticket holder down there and the stupid boosters do nothing but compare them to the basketball team. idiots.

 

[tnt]

"So what?" Wow. Never thought i'd see that from you. Is this the first argument you've ever lost? Hey Chris/egriz, do i get some kind of award?

The whole point of this thread is Delaney's [possible lack of] coaching ability--"that is what was being discussed." The bottom line is he allowed the call (twice). to me, that's even dumber than calling it himself.

I really hope he learned from the bone-headed mistakes he made last year, and that those mistakes were really just him being a "rookie" coach, but i am very skeptical of that because Mick's mistakes seem way dumber to me than say BH's globe of death or Pflu's 3-qbs at the same time play.

Could be but then the next question has to be are the guys responsible for and who called those plays still here???

 

[PlayerRep]

"So what?" Wow. Never thought i'd see that from you. Is this the first argument you've ever lost? Hey Chris/egriz, do i get some kind of award?

The whole point of this thread is Delaney's [possible lack of] coaching ability--"that is what was being discussed." The bottom line is he allowed the call (twice). to me, that's even dumber than calling it himself.

I really hope he learned from the bone-headed mistakes he made last year, and that those mistakes were really just him being a "rookie" coach, but i am very skeptical of that because Mick's mistakes seem way dumber to me than say BH's globe of death or Pflu's 3-qbs at the same time play.

Nope. I won this argument. Here was the discussion:

"I really think that the head coach is ultimately responsible for what his assistant coach calls."

PR: "I agree, but that doesn't mean the head coach made the call."

Again, feel free to have another discussion, but this is the one I was having when you made your dumb post.

 

[grizindabox]

PR, in the end, it does not matter if MD made the call or even knew what was being called, it is all his responsibility. If he has assistant coaches that make poor decisions, then it is the head coaches mistake, since he put the assistants in the position to make the call.

 

[Buttegrizzle]

The cluster that was last season was a long way from being Mick's fault. We got ass kicked several times and it shouldn't have surprised anyone who has attended since the first season in WA-Griz. The program was under attack. Players were not performing, particularly qbs and dbs. Coaches were new. Obviously there were mistakes but I saw a glass half full with several games winnable despite errors and sloppy play. MD will get 8-10 wins in 2013 and we'll have another great year in FCS.