Delaney wants 2-3 more years, or more

[gotgame75]

Funny how the majority of the most ardent Delaney supporters seem to be from Butte...

 

[Buttegrizzle]

Never met the guy...

 

[PlayerRep]

PR, in the end, it does not matter if MD made the call or even knew what was being called, it is all his responsibility. If he has assistant coaches that make poor decisions, then it is the head coaches mistake, since he put the assistants in the position to make the call.

You are late to the party. It was already discussed and agreed that the head coach is responsible for calls like this and his assistants. Then, the discussion went to whether the head coach made the call.

Feel free to have another discussion or debate, but, again, that's not the narrow discussion/comment I was having.

 

[Rockmeister]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

 

[grizindabox]

PR, in the end, it does not matter if MD made the call or even knew what was being called, it is all his responsibility. If he has assistant coaches that make poor decisions, then it is the head coaches mistake, since he put the assistants in the position to make the call.

You are late to the party. It was already discussed and agreed that the head coach is responsible for calls like this and his assistants. Then, the discussion went to whether the head coach made the call.

Feel free to have another discussion or debate, but, again, that's not the narrow discussion/comment I was having.

Funny, Hammer asked if I though MD made the call and I said it does not matter if he did or not, but one of his coach's did, and that makes him responsible for the call and then you, yes you PR started a huge discussion about whether or not MD made the call. Thing is, it did not matter if he made the calls or not. So head back to the lake and try to impress some more collegiate athletes or coeds.

 

[grizindabox]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

So what you are saying is that the presence of JJ will overshadow any ineptness of the coaching staff and lead UM to a 9 win season?

 

[Buttegrizzle]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

So what you are saying is that the presence of JJ will overshadow any ineptness of the coaching staff and lead UM to a 9 win season?

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Yeah, I'd say that. 'Meister is right. Mick would have won at least a few more games with Jordy last year and he will do so this year. I know a guy who taught Pflu in college. Said he was a remarkably bright student. Would he have done better than Booger last year? Most likely. But MD will do fine now that he's got the program on an even keel.

 

[PlayerRep]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

The punt defense certainly wasn't 18 yards off the line of scrimmage, or even close to the that--if that is what you were saying.

 

[Rockmeister]

Yeah! Totally! If Jordan had been on the field last year, we wouldn't have seen this "ineptness" because of the leadership and consistency offensively. Pflu would have had a down year last year without Jordan. The quarterback is basically the coach on the field. The defense got no rest last year because the offense couldn't sustain a DRIVE. New England without Brady sucks! Denver without Manning sucks! (not comparing talent, as that would be really stupid) It's like losing your point guard in basketball. When Will Cherry got back the Griz B-ball team finally started to gel.

 

[Rockmeister]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

The punt defense certainly wasn't 18 yards off the line of scrimmage, or even close to the that--if that is what you were saying.

Sorry for the sarcasm.

 

[PlayerRep]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

The punt defense certainly wasn't 18 yards off the line of scrimmage, or even close to the that--if that is what you were saying.

Sorry for the sarcasm.

Sorry I can't read your mind. I thought it was a typo.

 

[Rockmeister]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

The punt defense certainly wasn't 18 yards off the line of scrimmage, or even close to the that--if that is what you were saying.

Sorry for the sarcasm.

Sorry I can't read your mind. I thought it was a typo.

That's the problem I'm having with my wife...damn...damn...when will I learn?!

 

[Hammer]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

So what you are saying is that the presence of JJ will overshadow any ineptness of the coaching staff and lead UM to a 9 win season?

Yep. Griz would have won 8 or 9 last year with JJ, he's that good. JJ back, much improved D and improved coaching this year and I'm comfortable predicting 9 wins, 8 at least.

 

[Hammer]

Funny how the majority of the most ardent Delaney supporters seem to be from Butte...

Thats because we know what a hard worker and stand up guy Mick is. What you see is what you get, nothing fake about the guy and last year is still burning inside him. Nobody hated losing more than Mick and he is driven to redeem himself as HC and also get the Griz back on top where they belong. I'm all for putting last season behind us and giving Mick a clean shot now that he has been the guy for over a year now and not just thrown into the middle of a shitstorm like last year. It would be cool if our crybaby fanbase would give the man the same consideration, but I doubt that will happen.

 

[GrizMusician]

Funny how the majority of the most ardent Delaney supporters seem to be from Butte...

I'm from Butte... & I hope we go a new direction after this season. He is a pleasant guy to talk to though.

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[Hammer]

Also, UM called Mick, he didn't call UM. He was perfectly content to golf everyday, but UM ASKED him to come and coach the team.

 

[poorgriz]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

So what you are saying is that the presence of JJ will overshadow any ineptness of the coaching staff and lead UM to a 9 win season?

Yep. Griz would have won 8 or 9 last year with JJ, he's that good. JJ back, much improved D and improved coaching this year and I'm comfortable predicting 9 wins, 8 at least.

I've heard you guys say that JJ is "worth" anywhere from 2 to 6 games... LAST YEAR. Talk about hypothetical logic. Yes, he's a better QB than what you has last year, but there's no way in hell you can claim that it's a given he would have given you X more wins... and you sure as hell can't say that he's going to guarantee you X number of wins than what you had last year. Each game is different, each season is different. Your SCHEDULE is considerablyy different.

All that being said, I agree with your prediction, and that's what I've been saying all along. You'll end up anywhere from 7-5 to 10-2 best case. likely 8-4 or 9-3. Bubble playoff team, and on the outside looking in for the conference title. MSU, Cal Poly, and EWU will vie for the title, with UM, NAU, and Sac not far behind. Look for Southern Utah to be the possible dark horse.

PS - I think the talent level on the griz will be equal to the top three teams I mentioned... the difference that puts all three of those teams above UM IMO is coaching.

 

[stubbins]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

So what you are saying is that the presence of JJ will overshadow any ineptness of the coaching staff and lead UM to a 9 win season?

This is the problem. The Griz are going to have a decent year and all the told you so's will be out in force. What they fail to see is that this program will slowly erode if the Mickster remains at the helm. 3 years from now they'll be shaking their heads wondering what the fuck happened...one name will answer all those questions.

 

[grizindabox]

Guess JJ better not get hurt or the Griz are screwed.

 

[stubbins]

Jordan Johnson will be at the helm and will give the Griz 4 0r 5 more wins this year; and a lot (not all) will be forgotten about last year. Mick did come into a cluster, but in the end he is responsible for the decisions that his assistants make. You surround your self with coaches that have the same basic coaching philosophy as you, and like a corporation, you hope that they don't make decisions that will harm your company. If I remember right, it was eighteen yards off the line ( I measured) on the punt coverage, and it happened twice. SUU adjusted to it and the coaching staff for the Griz didn't. Mick should have been on top of the call, as he is the head coach.

Last year was a cluster, but Mick would never use that as an excuse for the 5-6 record. Other than Jordan and a few skill players, the program that is in place has the depth to overcome the mediocrity of last year. Mick knows that. If what happened last year happens this year though, a change should be made. It won't. The defense will get a rest because of Jordan Johnson and the consistency of the offense.

Probably...

So what you are saying is that the presence of JJ will overshadow any ineptness of the coaching staff and lead UM to a 9 win season?

Yep. Griz would have won 8 or 9 last year with JJ, he's that good. JJ back, much improved D and improved coaching this year and I'm comfortable predicting 9 wins, 8 at least.

I've heard you guys say that JJ is "worth" anywhere from 2 to 6 games... LAST YEAR. Talk about hypothetical logic. Yes, he's a better QB than what you has last year, but there's no way in hell you can claim that it's a given he would have given you X more wins... and you sure as hell can't say that he's going to guarantee you X number of wins than what you had last year. Each game is different, each season is different. Your SCHEDULE is considerablyy different.

All that being said, I agree with your prediction, and that's what I've been saying all along. You'll end up anywhere from 7-5 to 10-2 best case. likely 8-4 or 9-3. Bubble playoff team, and on the outside looking in for the conference title. MSU, Cal Poly, and EWU will vie for the title, with UM, NAU, and Sac not far behind. Look for Southern Utah to be the possible dark horse.

PS - I think the talent level on the griz will be equal to the top three teams I mentioned... the difference that puts all three of those teams above UM IMO is coaching.

Agreed on your last point....Griz are loaded on the field....sidelines...? Eh....