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Decuire - First to Fifty

I assume you have all the facts. I also assume that the UM administration has the same facts, did the math, and sees the sustainable revenues and knows the money is better, but wants to stay in the BSC just to make you crazy. So Maddening ! :evil:

EverettGriz said:
A lot has changed on the revenue side for conferences such as the MWC since then, PGM. Not to mention that those additional costs including paying for a number of things we now have (new weight rooms, academic center, etc). The money is there.
 
Proud Griz Man said:
I assume you have all the facts. I also assume that the UM administration has the same facts, did the math, and sees the sustainable revenues and knows the money is better, but wants to stay in the BSC just to make you crazy. So Maddening ! :evil:

EverettGriz said:
A lot has changed on the revenue side for conferences such as the MWC since then, PGM. Not to mention that those additional costs including paying for a number of things we now have (new weight rooms, academic center, etc). The money is there.

Well, yes, they do likely have the facts. You'll recall that when the study was conducted, the decision was to stay in the bsc for the time being, but that that could be reevaluated if situations change. I'd say it's more than accurate to say situations have changed. I would contend the reason we're still in the bsc is because there sadly isn't a spot for us right now.

For those "never move up, Montana is too small" types, however, I think there may be a rude awaking in their future.
 
Since Hogan's days many of those "insurmountable" costs have been addressed... such as additional facilities to accomodate women's sports (vollleyball arena, soccer field, softball stadium). Plus, UM has taken strides to include olympic sports that would make "moving up" much less of an obstacle nowadays. That said, I don't know if UM is fully compliant (wrestling?).

Additionally, Missoula and Bozeman as communities have grown economically over the past 15-20 years. Both communities would see increased economic benefit from a move toward more regional recognition as well. There are quite a few things that have happened over the past 10 years that point to the benefits of realignment. My hunch is that revisiting the broader benefits (whole comminity) of realignment through an updated study would show that.
 
citay said:
Unless we create a legacy coach like Bobby Hauck, Robin Selvig or Shannon Schweyen, the great Montana coaching tree will continue to sprout branch after branch. Simply: Any coach as ambitious as a DeCuire cannot achieve his ambitions given the albatross of the Big Sky Conference.

Sure, this conference is great for football--a "major" conference among smaller schools vying fora a lower-division national championship. But in basketball, you're not competing against lower division schools; you're up against the best of the best. And for that, the Big Sky conference is atrocious. Small markets. No TV. Brutal travel. Facilities that except for Weber State (thank you, Weber State!) are atrocious, barely up to high school standards. An inability to schedule home games against major competition. And, finally...

...one team only to the Big Dance. Just remember, as proud of we are of our Griz this season--undefeated, three games ahead in the conference race--it really means n-o-t-h-i-n-g. We are playing only for a high seed in the conference tournament, and one loss there, one off night (especially against a team we've already defeated twice, which often happens), and the season is a bust. Just ask the Warriors, who set the regular season record for wins, only to lose to the Cavs in the finals. The 73 wins meant NOTHING.

If we were in the Mountain West, these are the teams that would come calling every year: UNLV, New Mexico, San Diego State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Utah State, Boise State. How much fun would that be for our fan base? How challenging would that be for a coach of DeCuire's ambitions?

But years ago, when we might have jumped to the WAC (which would have led to the Mountain West), we made our bed instead with the Big Sky conference. We decided to sleep with football rather than basketball.

So be it.

Southern Utah's Centrum Arena is pretty sweet in my opinion.
 
grizzlyjournal said:
Since Hogan's days many of those "insurmountable" costs have been addressed... such as additional facilities to accomodate women's sports (vollleyball arena, soccer field, softball stadium). Plus, UM has taken strides to include olympic sports that would make "moving up" much less of an obstacle nowadays. That said, I don't know if UM is fully compliant (wrestling?).

Good post. You and Everrett make good points. I am not anti-move-up, but still see UM's revenue problems everywhere.
 
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