Craig Haley lists early favorite choices to win the Buck

[Bear Spray]

:lol:
Hey if you say so. You’re the expert. I’m not impressed with him but that’s ok, he’s not on my favorite team.

Did you think he played really well against the Cats this year? I just didn’t think so. Though I did say that I was impressed he didn’t quit. Think I said that several times on BN where I’m so mean. Golly gee....

Hauck had 12 tackles against Cats, 3 more than any Cat. 1 forced fumble too.

He didn’t force a fumble. He was credited with one on MSU’s first series, but he didn’t force it.

MSU had 71 plays (62 rushes, 8 receptions, one punt return) that had potential tackles; we had 47 which explains the tackles discrepancy.

If you asked him, I’m pretty sure Robbie would admit that wasn’t a good game for him.

I think Hauck was UM's 3d leading tackler and he had twice as many tackles at MSU's second leading tackler. The number of plays in the game does not explain the tackle difference.

Hauck had 24 more opportunities to make tackles than any other Cat player, certainly that had something to do with it. But regardless, the kid's a stud and I wish he played for the Cats. I"m from the camp where you don't want your safety leading the team in tackles though.

 

[PlayerRep]

Hauck had 12 tackles against Cats, 3 more than any Cat. 1 forced fumble too.

He didn’t force a fumble. He was credited with one on MSU’s first series, but he didn’t force it.

MSU had 71 plays (62 rushes, 8 receptions, one punt return) that had potential tackles; we had 47 which explains the tackles discrepancy.

If you asked him, I’m pretty sure Robbie would admit that wasn’t a good game for him.

I think Hauck was UM's 3d leading tackler and he had twice as many tackles at MSU's second leading tackler. The number of plays in the game does not explain the tackle difference.

Hauck had 24 more opportunities to make tackles than any other Cat player, certainly that had something to do with it. But regardless, the kid's a stud and I wish he played for the Cats. I"m from the camp where you don't want your safety leading the team in tackles though.

Was Hauck on the field for every play? In that game, Hauck was not the leading tackler. Was 3d.

 

[PlayerRep]

I like having both of them as Griz.

Yes. But one of them is really good. Really good. The other would be pretty good at Western or Tech....

The kid is as good as a run stopping safety as I’ve seen in a while. Tape doesn’t lie....go watch him against Cal Poly straight up blowing guys up twice his size. But aw shucks Beaver, I guess you know more than Big Sky coaches who put him on all conference teams and Jerry Rice award watch lists.

:lol:
Hey if you say so. You’re the expert. I’m not impressed with him but that’s ok, he’s not on my favorite team.

Did you think he played really well against the Cats this year? I just didn’t think so. Though I did say that I was impressed he didn’t quit. Think I said that several times on BN where I’m so mean. Golly gee....

Different subject. Sterk. "FCS: A Newfound Confidence Leads Montana State's Bryce Sterk Into Being An NFL Prospect" https://herosports.com/fcs/football-2020-montana-state-bryce-sterk-nfl-bzbz

"But I believe I did really well at the Shrine Game against some of the top players from the top conferences."

Sterk registered no stats in the game. He considers that "really well"?

 

[braves84]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/193290-bryce-sterk-de-montana-state/&ved=2ahUKEwjDmJqY0avoAhUOQK0KHQvJD1cQFjABegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw0GoRS6aQBChXB69elrrcxJ&cshid=1584796752191
Here's another draft sites opinion on sterk, yeah all these guys are wrong.

 

[Herd]

If you have a defense that can’t get off the field, that’s usually step 1 for this award if the winner is a high tackle stat guy. Good defenses, the top ones, don’t have these stats. So, look for a defense that can’t get off the field.

 

[braves84]

https://youtu.be/1koe6JWI5r0

 

[Bear Spray]

He didn’t force a fumble. He was credited with one on MSU’s first series, but he didn’t force it.

MSU had 71 plays (62 rushes, 8 receptions, one punt return) that had potential tackles; we had 47 which explains the tackles discrepancy.

If you asked him, I’m pretty sure Robbie would admit that wasn’t a good game for him.

I think Hauck was UM's 3d leading tackler and he had twice as many tackles at MSU's second leading tackler. The number of plays in the game does not explain the tackle difference.

Hauck had 24 more opportunities to make tackles than any other Cat player, certainly that had something to do with it. But regardless, the kid's a stud and I wish he played for the Cats. I"m from the camp where you don't want your safety leading the team in tackles though.

Was Hauck on the field for every play? In that game, Hauck was not the leading tackler. Was 3d.

Correct, Hauck wasn't on the field for every play, and I didn't say he was. He didn't play offense, and can't say for special teams. I"m sure he sat some defensive play too. Hauck wasn't the leading tackler - nor did I say he was.

What I did say was accurate: Hauck had more opportunities to make tackles than any other
Cat player, Hauck is a stud and I wish he played for the Cats, and I'm not a fan of safeties leading your defense in tackles. No where did I say Hauck leads the team in tackles or that he was on the field for every play.

There's another player from Montana (State) on Craig Haley's list by the way>>>>>>>>>>

 

[PlayerRep]

I think Hauck was UM's 3d leading tackler and he had twice as many tackles at MSU's second leading tackler. The number of plays in the game does not explain the tackle difference.

Hauck had 24 more opportunities to make tackles than any other Cat player, certainly that had something to do with it. But regardless, the kid's a stud and I wish he played for the Cats. I"m from the camp where you don't want your safety leading the team in tackles though.

Was Hauck on the field for every play? In that game, Hauck was not the leading tackler. Was 3d.

Correct, Hauck wasn't on the field for every play, and I didn't say he was. He didn't play offense, and can't say for special teams. I"m sure he sat some defensive play too. Hauck wasn't the leading tackler - nor did I say he was.

What I did say was accurate: Hauck had more opportunities to make tackles than any other
Cat player, Hauck is a stud and I wish he played for the Cats, and I'm not a fan of safeties leading your defense in tackles. No where did I say Hauck leads the team in tackles or that he was on the field for every play.

There's another player from Montana (State) on Craig Haley's list by the way>>>>>>>>>>

No, you said the number of plays of each team "explained" the tackle difference, i.e. why Hauck had more tackles than Cats. That statement of yours was not accurate. Hauck, the UM 3d leading tackler, had twice as many tackles as the 2d leading tackler for the Cats. Hauck didn't have twice as many plays as the Cat players.

Again, Hauck, a safety, did not lead UM in tackles that game, so why do you keep saying that you aren't a fan of safeties being leading tacklers. It's not relevant to this discussion.

 

[Bear Spray]

Hauck had 24 more opportunities to make tackles than any other Cat player, certainly that had something to do with it. But regardless, the kid's a stud and I wish he played for the Cats. I"m from the camp where you don't want your safety leading the team in tackles though.

Was Hauck on the field for every play? In that game, Hauck was not the leading tackler. Was 3d.

Correct, Hauck wasn't on the field for every play, and I didn't say he was. He didn't play offense, and can't say for special teams. I"m sure he sat some defensive play too. Hauck wasn't the leading tackler - nor did I say he was.

What I did say was accurate: Hauck had more opportunities to make tackles than any other
Cat player, Hauck is a stud and I wish he played for the Cats, and I'm not a fan of safeties leading your defense in tackles. No where did I say Hauck leads the team in tackles or that he was on the field for every play.

There's another player from Montana (State) on Craig Haley's list by the way>>>>>>>>>>

No, you said the number of plays of each team "explained" the tackle difference, i.e. why Hauck had more tackles than Cats. That statement of yours was not accurate. Hauck, the UM 3d leading tackler, had twice as many tackles as the 2d leading tackler for the Cats. Hauck didn't have twice as many plays as the Cat players.

Again, Hauck, a safety, did not lead UM in tackles that game, so why do you keep saying that you aren't a fan of safeties being leading tacklers. It's not relevant to this discussion.

Player Rep, you're a gene pool screaming for chlorine.

 

[getgrizzy]

Was Hauck on the field for every play? In that game, Hauck was not the leading tackler. Was 3d.

Correct, Hauck wasn't on the field for every play, and I didn't say he was. He didn't play offense, and can't say for special teams. I"m sure he sat some defensive play too. Hauck wasn't the leading tackler - nor did I say he was.

What I did say was accurate: Hauck had more opportunities to make tackles than any other
Cat player, Hauck is a stud and I wish he played for the Cats, and I'm not a fan of safeties leading your defense in tackles. No where did I say Hauck leads the team in tackles or that he was on the field for every play.

There's another player from Montana (State) on Craig Haley's list by the way>>>>>>>>>>

No, you said the number of plays of each team "explained" the tackle difference, i.e. why Hauck had more tackles than Cats. That statement of yours was not accurate. Hauck, the UM 3d leading tackler, had twice as many tackles as the 2d leading tackler for the Cats. Hauck didn't have twice as many plays as the Cat players.

Again, Hauck, a safety, did not lead UM in tackles that game, so why do you keep saying that you aren't a fan of safeties being leading tacklers. It's not relevant to this discussion.

Player Rep, you're a gene pool screaming for chlorine.

I don’t think PR is saying Hauck played well, just that he had more tackles. Pretty sure from past threads he realizes that tackles aren’t always a good stat to measure how well someone played. As he’s pointed out previously, hauck and Olson stats are part of the style of defense we play.

Hauck took a bad angle on the TD run by the WR to make 24-0. He had a good angle on ifanse, but couldn’t catch him on the play that made 31-7. Prior to their 2nd half FG he whiffed on a tackle that ended up being a 30 yard gain. Took a bad route on their first TD.

Their offense was very tough to read and you can see that by the lack of tackles Hauck made near the LOS.

 

[PlayerRep]

Correct, Hauck wasn't on the field for every play, and I didn't say he was. He didn't play offense, and can't say for special teams. I"m sure he sat some defensive play too. Hauck wasn't the leading tackler - nor did I say he was.

What I did say was accurate: Hauck had more opportunities to make tackles than any other
Cat player, Hauck is a stud and I wish he played for the Cats, and I'm not a fan of safeties leading your defense in tackles. No where did I say Hauck leads the team in tackles or that he was on the field for every play.

There's another player from Montana (State) on Craig Haley's list by the way>>>>>>>>>>

No, you said the number of plays of each team "explained" the tackle difference, i.e. why Hauck had more tackles than Cats. That statement of yours was not accurate. Hauck, the UM 3d leading tackler, had twice as many tackles as the 2d leading tackler for the Cats. Hauck didn't have twice as many plays as the Cat players.

Again, Hauck, a safety, did not lead UM in tackles that game, so why do you keep saying that you aren't a fan of safeties being leading tacklers. It's not relevant to this discussion.

Player Rep, you're a gene pool screaming for chlorine.

I don’t think PR is saying Hauck played well, just that he had more tackles. Pretty sure from past threads he realizes that tackles aren’t always a good stat to measure how well someone played. As he’s pointed out previously, hauck and Olson stats are part of the style of defense we play.

Hauck took a bad angle on the TD run by the WR to make 24-0. He had a good angle on ifanse, but couldn’t catch him on the play that made 31-7. Prior to their 2nd half FG he whiffed on a tackle that ended up being a 30 yard gain. Took a bad route on their first TD.

Their offense was very tough to read and you can see that by the lack of tackles Hauck made near the LOS.

Correct. I first listed the number of tackles, without saying anything else, and later said what another poster said was incorrect. Said nothing about how Hauck played. I had thought of saying what Kem later said, which is that I doubt that any Griz would say he played well in that game.

The other poster said: The larger number of Cat plays explained Hauck's higher stats.

PR said: No, the play disparity did not explain the larger number of tackles.

The other poster then tried to say he had said something different that what he'd said.

PR again said nope.

The other poster should have said: PR, you are correct. I should have said the larger number of Cat plays "contributed" to Hauck's higher numbers, but does not explain why he had so many more tackles.

PR would have said: I'm good with that.

I paraphrased some of this.