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Crack of wooden bats heard across N.D.

maroon said:
sid2000 said:
Just thought this was interesting since many teams refused to play against Miles City last year after they decided to no longer play with aluminum bats. I'm sure the Montana organiztion will be looking at ND very closely to see how things play out.

After Brandon Patch was killed in 2003, all Montana teams agreed to play Miles City using wood bats. In 2006, Bozeman decided it would play with metal bats. Miles City forfeited its games with Bozeman. All other teams played Miles City using wood bats. The State A Legion tournament was pulled from Miles City and moved to Billings.

And the MT American Legion more-less kicked Miles City out of Legion Baseball. Not sure if it's a one year ban or until they play w/ alluminum??? Again, too bad. MC had a nice program...
 
Whoever kicked them out or banned them for not using aluminum bats should have an aluminum bat used on their head.

At the very least they should be fired and removed from any and all positions that require them to make logical decisions.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Whoever kicked them out or banned them for not using aluminum bats should have an aluminum bat used on their head.

At the very least they should be fired and removed from any and all positions that require them to make logical decisions.

George Hagley, the head of MT Legion Baseball. Quite the dumbass, IMHO.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Glad to hear it.

Baseball should be played with wooden bats.


I would be willing to bet that anyone that uses or supports aluminum bats will also be a future customer/consumer of enzyte.

Not to mention Barry Bonds, if he could figure a way to fake people out, would use a aluminum bat that looked wooden. By the way, Bonds is a giant pile of fucking shit of which I hope goes the way of Lyle Alzedo (though I liked lyle as a little kid).
 
GRZFTBL said:
maroon said:
sid2000 said:
Just thought this was interesting since many teams refused to play against Miles City last year after they decided to no longer play with aluminum bats. I'm sure the Montana organiztion will be looking at ND very closely to see how things play out.

After Brandon Patch was killed in 2003, all Montana teams agreed to play Miles City using wood bats. In 2006, Bozeman decided it would play with metal bats. Miles City forfeited its games with Bozeman. All other teams played Miles City using wood bats. The State A Legion tournament was pulled from Miles City and moved to Billings.

And the MT American Legion more-less kicked Miles City out of Legion Baseball. Not sure if it's a one year ban or until they play w/ alluminum??? Again, too bad. MC had a nice program...


I wouldn't be surprised to see Miles City drop down to a lower league, possibly creating two teams. Not sure if this is possible or not, as I don't know how a team or town is classified for what league they play in. Many of the teams in the lower division in Eastern Montana play in a wood bat tourney in Froid to start off the season. Frp, what I have heard, almost all the players love it.
 
There's no better sound in sports than the crack of a wooden bat. It makes the game more true. When I was growing up I never really used wooden bats. I had always used aluminum, so that's what I was used to. Even in legion when I played for the Glacier Twins, all I used was aluminum. They didn't start their wood bat tourney until the year after I was done playing with them. I then moved out west to Eugene, OR in 2001 and played for Lane Community College in the NWAACC (Northwest Athletic Association of Community Colleges) Conference. In 2000, the NWAACC Conference switched over to wooden bats. Coming from an area that didn't really use wood bats, it took quite some time to adjust to the wood bats. The sweet spot is smaller and the bats are less forgiving. With aluminum, you can hit the ball off the handle and still get a base hit out of it. With wood it's a different story. Yeah you hit more home runs and have a better average with aluminum bats, but that's not the way the game should be played. Wood bats make the game more competitive. It makes pitching and fielding very important, and you don't have as many blowout victories. It just makes the game that much better. The game should be played the way it's supposed to be, with WOOD bats.

As far as the cost goes, yeah in the end wood bats can become more expensive, with the breaking of wood bats. But they do make composite wood bats that don't break like regular wood. For example, at Lane, the team supplied "Baum Bats". Baum bats are the best composite wood bats on the market, and they hit just like wood. Same sound and everything, but they don't break. The team would get 6-8 new bats a year and we would use the new ones in games. In practice, we would use Baum bats from a year or two before, so we could save the new ones for the games. I bought my own personal bats that were solid wood that I used in games. But I would use the Baum bats in practice. There's virtually no difference between the two. They hit just like wood. And they're less costly than aluminum. For a good solid ash wood bat, you're looking at about $45-50/each, for maple you're looking at about $75-100/each. A Baum bat is $150/each or $125/each if you buy a box of 6. The solid wood bats may have a slight amount of more pop than the Baum bats, but Baum bats will last 10 times longer than a regular wood bat.

In my opinion, we should do away with aluminum bats and go back to wood. Think about it...An aluminum bat costs roughly $300, a Baum bat costs $125-150. If a team purchases say 6 bat a year for the team to use, aluminum bats will cost about $1,800. Where as the Baum bats will cost $750.

In conclusion, wood bats make the game more true and competive, they make the game safer, and they are also less expensive. Not to mention that if they started using wood bats in little league on up, not only would it make them BETTER hitters, they wouldn't have to make the adjustments when they got to the higher levels.\

I vote for the switch to WOOD.
 
DuckFan said:
There's no better sound in sports than the crack of a wooden bat. It makes the game more true. When I was growing up I never really used wooden bats. I had always used aluminum, so that's what I was used to. Even in legion when I played for the Glacier Twins, all I used was aluminum. They didn't start their wood bat tourney until the year after I was done playing with them. I then moved out west to Eugene, OR in 2001 and played for Lane Community College in the NWAACC (Northwest Athletic Association of Community Colleges) Conference. In 2000, the NWAACC Conference switched over to wooden bats. Coming from an area that didn't really use wood bats, it took quite some time to adjust to the wood bats. The sweet spot is smaller and the bats are less forgiving. With aluminum, you can hit the ball off the handle and still get a base hit out of it. With wood it's a different story. Yeah you hit more home runs and have a better average with aluminum bats, but that's not the way the game should be played. Wood bats make the game more competitive. It makes pitching and fielding very important, and you don't have as many blowout victories. It just makes the game that much better. The game should be played the way it's supposed to be, with WOOD bats.

As far as the cost goes, yeah in the end wood bats can become more expensive, with the breaking of wood bats. But they do make composite wood bats that don't break like regular wood. For example, at Lane, the team supplied "Baum Bats". Baum bats are the best composite wood bats on the market, and they hit just like wood. Same sound and everything, but they don't break. The team would get 6-8 new bats a year and we would use the new ones in games. In practice, we would use Baum bats from a year or two before, so we could save the new ones for the games. I bought my own personal bats that were solid wood that I used in games. But I would use the Baum bats in practice. There's virtually no difference between the two. They hit just like wood. And they're less costly than aluminum. For a good solid ash wood bat, you're looking at about $45-50/each, for maple you're looking at about $75-100/each. A Baum bat is $150/each or $125/each if you buy a box of 6. The solid wood bats may have a slight amount of more pop than the Baum bats, but Baum bats will last 10 times longer than a regular wood bat.

In my opinion, we should do away with aluminum bats and go back to wood. Think about it...An aluminum bat costs roughly $300, a Baum bat costs $125-150. If a team purchases say 6 bat a year for the team to use, aluminum bats will cost about $1,800. Where as the Baum bats will cost $750.

In conclusion, wood bats make the game more true and competive, they make the game safer, and they are also less expensive. Not to mention that if they started using wood bats in little league on up, not only would it make them BETTER hitters, they wouldn't have to make the adjustments when they got to the higher levels.\

I vote for the switch to WOOD.

:dope:

Couldn't say it any better myself....

PROBABLY a safer game

DEFINITELY a better game

Good posting!
 
Aluminum bats are dangerous at any level of baseball and softball...If you are going to allow aluminum composite bats than we need to make the parks larger, with bigger infields and longer basepaths to allow for that split second of reaction time that technology has eliminated. There's a reason why ASA softball and the MHSA softball folks add to the banned bat list every year. Players and fans demand more power and composite bats can make the average hitter into a power hitter and the power hitter into a danger to others...

They eliminated titanium bats after one season for this very reason. Funny how we don't recognize the warning signs of danger. There are several USSSA leagues that REQUIRE pitchers to wear helmets and chest protection in their softball leagues. If that doesn't tell us something is wrong, what will? The same principals apply to baseball...
 
I've been told by idiots that ASA banned wood bats because they can break. Every time I go look, I find out they lied. Sure, there are local leagues that do that, but to blame it on ASA is ludicrous. The biggest problem is that the culture has been changed such that metal composites are so prevalent that one almost never sees wood; therefore, the typical reaction to bringing wood is that it MUST be illegal. Sort of like Flutie's drop kick must have been illegal because nobody does it anymore.

It's ignorant bias, pure and simple.

Wood rules!!!
 
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