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Could the Griz get left out of the playoffs?

GrizzleMoose

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This scenario has me nervous. If the Cats beat the Griz and SUU beats NAU, is there a chance the Cats get in instead of us? I don't think there is anyway that five make it from the Big Sky. While we would have a better record than the Cats, one of their losses is to an FBS team so if you throw that loss out and throw out our win over a DII, we have the same record with the Cats having the advantage with a win over NAU. SUU wins, I don't see how they get left out with one loss to FBS and one win over an FBS. It would then come down to EWU, NAU, SUU, an either Montana or MSU. Not saying that this will happen but I think there is a chance. Griz need to get the win, period!
 
No. You can thank the Cal Poly special teams coach (blocked punt and field goal) and defensive coordinator (going to a three man rush the last two minutes). Had they done their jobs better you may have had to win against MSU. No way the selection committee leaves out a 9-3 a Montana team.
 
firmgriz said:
Simple answer, no.
While I think you are correct, this scenario still makes me nervous. The determining factor would probably come down to the Bobcats having one of their wins over a D II and their loss to SFA. I think that gives the Griz the edge.
 
SloStang said:
No. You can thank the Cal Poly special teams coach (blocked punt and field goal) and defensive coordinator (going to a three man rush the last two minutes). Had they done their jobs better you may have had to win against MSU. No way the selection committee leaves out a 9-3 a Montana team.

You need some closure on that, Mr. Stang. :cool: :cool: :cool:
 
What's your basis for thinking the committee wouldn't take 5 teams from the conference, if they are all deserving teams compared to the rest of the field. I believe the committee took 5 from the CAA in the past, and the CAA was smaller than 13 teams.
 
AZGrizFan said:
SloStang said:
No. You can thank the Cal Poly special teams coach (blocked punt and field goal) and defensive coordinator (going to a three man rush the last two minutes). Had they done their jobs better you may have had to win against MSU. No way the selection committee leaves out a 9-3 a Montana team.

You need some closure on that, Mr. Stang. :cool: :cool: :cool:
It happened this weekend when we lost to EWU. On to 2014. Best of luck to the Griz this weekend and in the playoffs. Represent the Big Sky well. :thumb:
 
PlayerRep said:
What's your basis for thinking the committee wouldn't take 5 teams from the conference, if they are all deserving teams compared to the rest of the field. I believe the committee took 5 from the CAA in the past, and the CAA was smaller than 13 teams.

True, and that was probably when the field was only 16. No way a 9 win team named Montana gets left out of a 24 team field.
 
A sportswriter was saying this on Nov. 10.

"CAA Football could range anywhere from three to five qualifiers, and the preseason favorite, Villanova, isn't even in the conversation. The Big Sky has four or five teams ready to claim bids. The Southland Conference should put in three squads this year. The Ohio Valley Conference has a slew of playoff contenders like last year, and Jacksonville State and Tennessee State could both get to nine wins yet not feel secure."

Why should the Southland, an 8-team conference, get in 3 deserving teams--if a 13-team can't get in 5 deserving teams? Do the percentage math.

Why should a weak conference like the Ohio Valley get in 3 teams? Sure hope they don't.

The specific strength of schedule criteria should help the power conferences.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/11/10/in-fcs-huddle-too-many-teams-not-enough-playoff-spots/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
There are simply not enough teams in the top 25 that will have a 9-3 record or better to end the season to keep the Griz out of the playoffs. Everyone can relax happy knowing we are in the playoffs now.
 
No.. As said in the other thread, the conference standings have 0 influence on bids. There's no way. 9-3 griz whose 3 losses came to top 15 teams gets left out
 
If SUU and MSU win, there will be five from the Big Sky. Look at the top 25 poll and teams from other conferences - there are simply not enough other good teams to keep us out.
 
Eriul said:
No.. As said in the other thread, the conference standings have 0 influence on bids. There's no way. 9-3 griz whose 3 losses came to top 15 teams gets left out

That's not entirely true. The BSC is still fifth on the list as "strength" If we have four or five teams in the BSC conference with 9-3 records after the autobid, ask NAU how things work out (even with an expanded field this year).

If they go strictly on record (which they don't) they would have to take five from the BSC. That is far from a guarantee. So if they take fewer, they will have to look at common opponents. The griz won't do really that well in that scenario. But its so screwed up the committee just as easily could throw up their hands and take 3. If you look at what BSC teams did out of the conference (including Eastern who struggled with SFA) none of the BSC look that great.

Its unlikley that UM won't make the playoffs with a loss to MSU, but its certainly not a lock.

Its pretty simple though Beat the cats, and no worries
 
...big sky recordz meaningless...
...since in went to twelve teamz...
...comparing applez to orangez deal...

... :cool: ...
 
It's a possibility but highly unlikely.

For all those that think they don't look at conference standings, thats a joke. If that were the case, 3-4 teams from crap conferences would get in every year based on records alone, they look at the strength of the conference as a whole and can look at how you finish in conference. The Big Sky is rated as the 5th FCS conference right now...A 3 loss NAU team didn't even make it in last year and they had an FBS win...

Also, taking 5 teams from the Big Sky is a HUGE stretch, so is probably 4. When the playoffs were 16 and 20 teams, the Big Sky rarely had 3 teams make the field, now we expect 5? The reason the CAA had 5 teams in was because their conference was ranked as the best conference or 2nd best conference every year.

Looking at where the Griz are at in the polls though, I doubt they are left out regardless if they and NAU both lose on Saturday.
 
Lol alright well you guys can sit there and wonder if a top 5 team doesn't get into the 24 team playoff with 1 more loss. But those of us who actually look at other conferences and records will enjoy knowing were in.

Expanded playoffs. Incredible conference. Simple stop stressing and open your eyes
 
marceagfan5 said:
It's a possibility but highly unlikely.

For all those that think they don't look at conference standings, thats a joke. If that were the case, 3-4 teams from crap conferences would get in every year based on records alone, they look at the strength of the conference as a whole and can look at how you finish in conference. The Big Sky is rated as the 5th FCS conference right now...A 3 loss NAU team didn't even make it in last year and they had an FBS win...

Also, taking 5 teams from the Big Sky is a HUGE stretch, so is probably 4. When the playoffs were 16 and 20 teams, the Big Sky rarely had 3 teams make the field, now we expect 5? The reason the CAA had 5 teams in was because their conference was ranked as the best conference or 2nd best conference every year.

Looking at where the Griz are at in the polls though, I doubt they are left out regardless if they and NAU both lose on Saturday.
You don't think well get 4 teams in when we have ranked 3 7 8 and 12? That's... Interesting
 
marceagfan5 said:
It's a possibility but highly unlikely.

For all those that think they don't look at conference standings, thats a joke. If that were the case, 3-4 teams from crap conferences would get in every year based on records alone, they look at the strength of the conference as a whole and can look at how you finish in conference. The Big Sky is rated as the 5th FCS conference right now...A 3 loss NAU team didn't even make it in last year and they had an FBS win...

Also, taking 5 teams from the Big Sky is a HUGE stretch, so is probably 4. When the playoffs were 16 and 20 teams, the Big Sky rarely had 3 teams make the field, now we expect 5? The reason the CAA had 5 teams in was because their conference was ranked as the best conference or 2nd best conference every year.

Looking at where the Griz are at in the polls though, I doubt they are left out regardless if they and NAU both lose on Saturday.


They don't care where you finish in conf. Those trap conf. Just dont get attention cause they all suck and never win playoff games. Were in take it to the bank
 
Eriul said:
marceagfan5 said:
It's a possibility but highly unlikely.

For all those that think they don't look at conference standings, thats a joke. If that were the case, 3-4 teams from crap conferences would get in every year based on records alone, they look at the strength of the conference as a whole and can look at how you finish in conference. The Big Sky is rated as the 5th FCS conference right now...A 3 loss NAU team didn't even make it in last year and they had an FBS win...

Also, taking 5 teams from the Big Sky is a HUGE stretch, so is probably 4. When the playoffs were 16 and 20 teams, the Big Sky rarely had 3 teams make the field, now we expect 5? The reason the CAA had 5 teams in was because their conference was ranked as the best conference or 2nd best conference every year.

Looking at where the Griz are at in the polls though, I doubt they are left out regardless if they and NAU both lose on Saturday.
You don't think well get 4 teams in when we have ranked 3 7 8 and 12? That's... Interesting

MSU won't be ranked in the top 10 anymore, probably not in the top 15. If the Griz beat them next Saturday, they are done and most likely, so is the loser of the NAU/SUU game...
 
Eriul said:
marceagfan5 said:
It's a possibility but highly unlikely.

For all those that think they don't look at conference standings, thats a joke. If that were the case, 3-4 teams from crap conferences would get in every year based on records alone, they look at the strength of the conference as a whole and can look at how you finish in conference. The Big Sky is rated as the 5th FCS conference right now...A 3 loss NAU team didn't even make it in last year and they had an FBS win...

Also, taking 5 teams from the Big Sky is a HUGE stretch, so is probably 4. When the playoffs were 16 and 20 teams, the Big Sky rarely had 3 teams make the field, now we expect 5? The reason the CAA had 5 teams in was because their conference was ranked as the best conference or 2nd best conference every year.

Looking at where the Griz are at in the polls though, I doubt they are left out regardless if they and NAU both lose on Saturday.
You don't think well get 4 teams in when we have ranked 3 7 8 and 12? That's... Interesting

No its getting a fith team in, that the problem. A win by SUU and a loss by UM makes UM the fifth team. You don't think UM will stay 7th with a loss to MSU do you???? Many ranked teams haven't made it to the Play offs.
 

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