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CDAGRIZ said:
bigsky33 said:
Since that Cat/Griz game the Cats are a different team under Mellott. If we didn't make the change at QB the Cats would have been out in the first playoff game. I stand by that the Griz would not beat SDSU.

Hmm, I thought he played in the game in Missoula. I swear I remember him being a complete non-factor. But, hey, it’s very possible I’m wrong. I tend to forget players who have no impact on the outcome.

Mellott was used on a limited role in that game. They did not prepare him to be a starter. After the Griz game he was given the whole playbook and had two full weeks to prepare for his first start. Big difference.
 
bigsky33 said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Hmm, I thought he played in the game in Missoula. I swear I remember him being a complete non-factor. But, hey, it’s very possible I’m wrong. I tend to forget players who have no impact on the outcome.

Mellott was used on a limited role in that game. They did not prepare him to be a starter. After the Griz game he was given the whole playbook and had two full weeks to prepare for his first start. Big difference.

Ah, got it. So, how many touchdowns would he have thrown for in that game had they prepared him to be a starter? I'm thinking 12, maybe 14? Kinda strange that the staff wouldn't give the whole playbook to the best player to ever strap on the inexplicable "M" helmet. I mean, with the whole playbook, the Bobcats would have waltzed to a victory. Seems like very poor coaching
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argh! said:
LaJollaGriz said:
The transfer QB you tried to use the entire season was a bust, and we exposed just how bad he was in the Griz/Cat game causing him to hit the portal, which was the best thing that happened to you this year. I believe you would have beaten Wyoming and possibly us if Mellot had started the entire season. Of course we will never know, but I would not want to play the Bobcats again right now with Mellot at QB, and I don't think many of us would.

mellot played against the griz and didn't do much. the griz lb's this year were much faster than the sdsu lb's (except for one), which is a key with running qb's. montana did have some trouble with sac state qb's running, but that was in part due to the frequent switching of qb's who had different styles of play. otherwise, did any running qb have a lot of yardage on the ground against montana? whatever, my point is that i don't think starting mellot would give the bobs a huge advantage against montana, but we won't know until next year, if he manages to last until the end of the regular season game. just my opinion, man.

Mellot did not lead MSU to victory over SHU and SDSU only with his feet. He made several huge completions in both games. His running threat loosens-up the defense, who start committing early to stopping his running, and leave wide open receivers. He is not a great passer, but is good enough that every team must account for his ability to hurt them with a big pass play. I am sure the coaches at SHU and SDSU would agree.
 
bigsky33 said:
hilinegrizfan said:
This take has no merit. We were up on you 29-3 with 50 seconds left in the game . You scored a lone touchdown against our backups. At least be big enough to understand you got the easiest road possible. If you can’t realize that, you don’t really understand how any of this works and lose all credibility

Since that Cat/Griz game the Cats are a different team under Mellott. If we didn't make the change at QB the Cats would have been out in the first playoff game. I stand by that the Griz would not beat SDSU.
Definitely not with the injuries we had against JMU, but at full strength and at home, there's no doubt in my mind we beat them.
 
hilinegrizfan said:
bigsky33 said:
That is a huge if. I guess that makes you feel better. I don't see the Griz offense having enough to beat SDSU. They beat the Bison and your offense couldn't score a touchdown against them and I don't think your defense, whoile really good would have played any better than the Cats yesterday. But, who knows. That's why they play the game.

This take has no merit. We were up on you 29-3 with 50 seconds left in the game . You scored a lone touchdown against our backups. At least be big enough to understand you got the easiest road possible. If you can’t realize that, you don’t really understand how any of this works and lose all credibility
Man I think they had the hard road. SHSU beat SDSU, NDSU and JMU this year and didn't lose a single player from that NC squad. Also SDSU beat NDSU and Villanova had beaten JMU this year and they were all on the other side of the bracket. I think you are the one losing credibility here.
 
LaJollaGriz said:
argh! said:
mellot played against the griz and didn't do much. the griz lb's this year were much faster than the sdsu lb's (except for one), which is a key with running qb's. montana did have some trouble with sac state qb's running, but that was in part due to the frequent switching of qb's who had different styles of play. otherwise, did any running qb have a lot of yardage on the ground against montana? whatever, my point is that i don't think starting mellot would give the bobs a huge advantage against montana, but we won't know until next year, if he manages to last until the end of the regular season game. just my opinion, man.

Mellot did not lead MSU to victory over SHU and SDSU only with his feet. He made several huge completions in both games. His running threat loosens-up the defense, who start committing early to stopping his running, and leave wide open receivers. He is not a great passer, but is good enough that every team must account for his ability to hurt them with a big pass play. I am sure the coaches at SHU and SDSU would agree.

griz cb's didn't have any problem with msu's wr's, but vs the bobs they had hicks-onu, vs jmu, not such luck. i'm sure ford would love a qb who threw 50-50 balls all game long...
 
CDAGRIZ said:
bigsky33 said:
Mellott was used on a limited role in that game. They did not prepare him to be a starter. After the Griz game he was given the whole playbook and had two full weeks to prepare for his first start. Big difference.

Ah, got it. So, how many touchdowns would he have thrown for in that game had they prepared him to be a starter? I'm thinking 12, maybe 14? Kinda strange that the staff wouldn't give the whole playbook to the best player to ever strap on the inexplicable "M" helmet. I mean, with the whole playbook, the Bobcats would have waltzed to a victory. Seems like very poor coaching
.

Can you imagine having a staff so dense that they don't even realize their best player is on the bench until the regular season is over? :shock:
 
indian-outlaw said:
hilinegrizfan said:
This take has no merit. We were up on you 29-3 with 50 seconds left in the game . You scored a lone touchdown against our backups. At least be big enough to understand you got the easiest road possible. If you can’t realize that, you don’t really understand how any of this works and lose all credibility
Man I think they had the hard road. SHSU beat SDSU, NDSU and JMU this year and didn't lose a single player from that NC squad. Also SDSU beat NDSU and Villanova had beaten JMU this year and they were all on the other side of the bracket. I think you are the one losing credibility here.

sdsu was for sure a great team, but shsu beat the other teams "this year" during practice time.
 
MikeyGriz said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Ah, got it. So, how many touchdowns would he have thrown for in that game had they prepared him to be a starter? I'm thinking 12, maybe 14? Kinda strange that the staff wouldn't give the whole playbook to the best player to ever strap on the inexplicable "M" helmet. I mean, with the whole playbook, the Bobcats would have waltzed to a victory. Seems like very poor coaching
.

Can you imagine having a staff so dense that they don't even realize their best player is on the bench until the regular season is over? :shock:

But in Bozeman, the backups are always better than the starters. It's the #bobcatdifference. This Sixx, Johnny-come-lately, fella has a lot to learn about coaching in the Gallatin Valley. Dude probably doesn't even own a pair of Carhartt bibs.
 
argh! said:
indian-outlaw said:
Man I think they had the hard road. SHSU beat SDSU, NDSU and JMU this year and didn't lose a single player from that NC squad. Also SDSU beat NDSU and Villanova had beaten JMU this year and they were all on the other side of the bracket. I think you are the one losing credibility here.

sdsu was for sure a great team, but shsu beat the other teams "this year" during practice time.
So JMU, NDSU and SDSU were playing last years FCS brackets for practice? I think you'd get a unanimous disagreement from all those teams. I can't believe that griz fans are implying that they had an easy road to the NC. It just reeks of sour grapes.
 
indian-outlaw said:
argh! said:
sdsu was for sure a great team, but shsu beat the other teams "this year" during practice time.
So JMU, NDSU and SDSU were playing last years FCS brackets for practice? I think you'd get a unanimous disagreement from all those teams. I can't believe that griz fans are implying that they had an easy road to the NC. It just reeks of sour grapes.

i am glad for them, but until sdsu, they really didn't have to play a strong team. counting sdsu's wins against villanova and ndsu, regardless of the 'season', as the reason msu had a 'tough road' isn't a persuasive argument. it seems most agree sdsu was a tough opponent. but one tough opponent doesn't match two, i don't think. and yes, i do discount the pseudo-season's results. msu didn't even play, they had a whole year to recover, etc, etc...
 
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